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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:20:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:53:17
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:37:53
You're about to enter a system you want to gather some intel on for pew-pew perhaps, or maybe you suspect bots are active there and want to determine a good place to stage a gank, whatever your reasons are are yours alone. You flip a switch ordering your ship to run silent. Your transponders are deactivated, cutting your ship off, communications-wise, from the rest of the universe. Your chats go blank... you no longer appear in any chat, nor can you see anyone else in any chats. You can no longer broadcast, nor can you even be in a fleet. You cannot provide warp to information. You warp into the next system, gate's clear. You have no idea who's in there, and they have no idea you've arrived. DScan shows a couple ships, so you quickly warp off to a planet and activate the covops. You're not there. Now it's time to gather your intel. (Note: activation/deactivation timer on silent mode prevents instantly popping it, fleeting, warp to.)

Thoughts?

Bask Ilisk
Gallente
Death To Everyone But Us
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:22:00 - [2]
 

Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:23:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Bask Ilisk
Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.


You didn't read a single word, did you?

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:25:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Bask Ilisk
Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.


You didn't read a single word, did you?


This is GD after all, isn't it?

Bask Ilisk
Gallente
Death To Everyone But Us
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:27:00 - [5]
 

I did read it, removing local as intel tool removes the point of your suggestion.


Jackson Millenius
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:28:00 - [6]
 

Running silent is an interesting idea sure, but the way you describe it makes the ship useless.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:29:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Bask Ilisk
I did read it, removing local as intel tool removes the point of your suggestion.




Actually, Bask, I agree with that, but it doesn't seem as likely to happen. Local's a crutch it would do good for everyone to learn to walk without. However, this idea could, perhaps, be a step in the right direction I think...

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:29:00 - [8]
 

I don't think it is a particularly bad idea. So long as it was restricted to very specific ships such as Black Ops and Covert Ops. This frankly has nothing to do with AFK anything. Should be a module.

Would this be useable while cloaked and using probes?

Takamori Maruyama
Amarr
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:29:00 - [9]
 

Just give Cloak a Duration and a CD and done.
You solved a ****load of problems

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:32:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Bask Ilisk
Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.


This.

I read your post OP, it had nothing to do with AFK cloaking or fixing it.

Also, what good is silent mode for intel gathering when you define it as cutting you off from all methods of intel gathering and communication?

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:37:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: War Kitten
Originally by: Bask Ilisk
Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.


This.

I read your post OP, it had nothing to do with AFK cloaking or fixing it.

Also, what good is silent mode for intel gathering when you define it as cutting you off from all methods of intel gathering and communication?



You can dscan, you can probe. You just can't use the chat windows to see who's there or be seen in them.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:42:00 - [12]
 

How many places are you going to post this?

Frau Klaps
Amarr
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:49:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Frau Klaps on 18/08/2011 18:51:41
edit: forgot to bold the salient point.
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
The only real problem with afk cloakers is that people are chicken **** and afk cloakers prey on their fears. It's amazing how someone in a magnate, while at work, can shut down an entire system for a day.

Someone AFK cloaking is only a problem if you let them be. Use DScan. Stay at your computer while running ops. Use a buddy. You have the guys name... Google his arse, see if he blogs. We had a stealth bomber in our wormhole, I caught his name during a failed attempt on my mighty bestower. Google turned up a blog, got plenty of intel needed to determine his hours online, etc. He left a few days later empty handed.

They're only a problem if you do nothing and let them be a problem. We don't need new gimmicks, new modules, nerfs, buffs, fuels... just brains and balls.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:58:00 - [14]
 

Not being able to broadcast would make sense, not being able to receive would be silly.

Also, as an AFK cloaker, I am flattered to have several threads on the subject on the front page. Thank you.

I cannot wait to see whatever system CCP comes up with to replace the current "local" as intel.

I am fairly confident it will provide moar tears than now.

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.08.18 19:16:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Bask Ilisk
Remove local as an intel tool. Stop making bad AFK cloaking threads.


You didn't read a single word, did you?


This is GD after all, isn't it?


Question tags automatically raise the cool quotient in a thread, don't they?

Jag Hiroshii
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.18 19:38:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:53:17
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:37:53
You're about to enter a system you want to gather some intel on for pew-pew perhaps, or maybe you suspect bots are active there and want to determine a good place to stage a gank, whatever your reasons are are yours alone. You flip a switch ordering your ship to run silent. Your transponders are deactivated, cutting your ship off, communications-wise, from the rest of the universe. Your chats go blank... you no longer appear in any chat, nor can you see anyone else in any chats. You can no longer broadcast, nor can you even be in a fleet. You cannot provide warp to information. You warp into the next system, gate's clear. You have no idea who's in there, and they have no idea you've arrived. DScan shows a couple ships, so you quickly warp off to a planet and activate the covops. You're not there. Now it's time to gather your intel. (Note: activation/deactivation timer on silent mode prevents instantly popping it, fleeting, warp to.)

Thoughts?


Love it. Really love it.

I also like the thought that you could power down ships so they don't show up in the hud - all systems offline. You could tuck a few ships in an asteroid belt and hope you don't get spotted .. then when they've settled, you power up (with timer) and attack.

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.08.18 19:46:00 - [17]
 

Pretty noble of you, saving Earth's last forest.

Zakua Corbin
Posted - 2011.08.18 20:06:00 - [18]
 

I think it sounds kinda cool TBH...

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.08.18 20:20:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:53:17
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 18/08/2011 18:37:53
You're about to enter a system you want to gather some intel on for pew-pew perhaps, or maybe you suspect bots are active there and want to determine a good place to stage a gank, whatever your reasons are are yours alone. You flip a switch ordering your ship to run silent. Your transponders are deactivated, cutting your ship off, communications-wise, from the rest of the universe. Your chats go blank... you no longer appear in any chat, nor can you see anyone else in any chats. You can no longer broadcast, nor can you even be in a fleet. You cannot provide warp to information. You warp into the next system, gate's clear. You have no idea who's in there, and they have no idea you've arrived. DScan shows a couple ships, so you quickly warp off to a planet and activate the covops. You're not there. Now it's time to gather your intel. (Note: activation/deactivation timer on silent mode prevents instantly popping it, fleeting, warp to.)

Thoughts?


Actually a decent version of no local.

All good pros come with an equal con (except super caps Lolz)


 

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