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xXThunder StruckXx
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:50:00 - [31]
 

It is very rare to get the spawn stoned, how often are you running it?

StonedAGAIN
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:52:00 - [32]
 

everyday pretty much since the last main patch i get a minimum of 1 but can b up to 3-5 times in a day I have over 9.0 faction standing with my pirate faction so it does come round alot

Lady Aja
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:56:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: StonedAGAIN
everyday pretty much since the last main patch i get a minimum of 1 but can b up to 3-5 times in a day I have over 9.0 faction standing with my pirate faction so it does come round alot


faction standings DO NOT dictate what missions you get. its random from a pool of missions that agent hands out.

StonedAGAIN
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:59:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: StonedAGAIN on 16/08/2011 08:01:38
yes but if that is the case why has it increased by the amount of times I get it my other char has 1.09 and only gets the blockade every now and then both have over 9.0 to corp standing my char with over 9.0 faction standing pretty much all the missions give or take a couple say over the space of 16 only 6 of them would be low quality lp ones where as I get alot of lower grade mission with the char that only has 1.09

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.08.16 09:15:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: StonedAGAIN
Is it just me or is anyone else experiencing the lack of faction loot from missions like the blockade before the last patch every now and then you would get some very nice faction loot from a rat called the contractor but since that patch I would do at least 1 blockade a day sometimes more and have never once received a drop which I think is pretty fail to be honest even worlds collide the drops are crap now. I am just wondering why CCP would remove such a beneficial part to missions or is it just a bug they don't want to tell you about. If petitioned you know you will get the same very arrogant answer in a very sarcastic way "working as intended". So has anyone else experienced this and know the answer why they are so crap now?


I ran DED Blockade 4 last night and I picked out 2 large 'Solace' remote reppers, a large S95a remote repper, a 1600mm RT Plate and 3 large F-S9 extenders.

Your milage may vary.

StonedAGAIN
Posted - 2011.08.16 10:17:00 - [36]
 

thats only meta 4 gear tbh if u kill a rat called the contractor it drops navy faction stuff can get that kind of stuff from any mission sorry to say but now I have told you what you are looking for please keep me posted if you do actually see the contractor as I have a feeling its no longer there due to some kind of bug as the guy previous said he did get a faction spawn in the hisec version

Nadine Le'Slut
Posted - 2011.08.16 14:00:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Nadine Le''**** on 16/08/2011 14:02:32
confirming highsec L3-blockades, AE4 stations and retirement homes from GE4 dropped faction loot some years ago. Got two dread invuls out of them plus a few other items.

probably went poof the same day they nerfed npc loot. wts metal scraps.

only mission that still has a chance for good loot seems to be WC4

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Posted - 2011.08.16 21:29:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: StonedAGAIN
no not 100% of the time but at least 1 in every 10 or something you do. I used to do way more than 10 n would get zero other than the bounties. go try some missions in 0.0 and tell me there is no risk....


I went two months getting small c-type module drops from highsec exploration, never anything worth more than about 75 mil.

In the past two weeks, I've found two c-type medium shield boosters, two low-grade crystal implants, a dread launcher worth nearly 100 mil, and various other nifty items. After two months of grinding away to make ends meet I finally scored big like I did in my early days of exploration that hooked me on it.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.16 22:17:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Rip Minner
Ya like high sec missions dont get nerfted every single expantion as is.Rolling Eyes
Well, they don't.

And as for the OP: no, pretty much all exploration-type loot has rightfully been removed from missions. The only one I'm aware of that still happens is the overseer spawns in Worlds Collide.

If you want that kind of loot, go do the activitie(s) that are meant to provide it. Missions are just for steady and predictable ISK.

StonedAGAIN
Posted - 2011.08.16 22:58:00 - [40]
 

again way off topic we not talking bout plex loot wer are talking bout the blockade and if the contractor still exists in 0.0 missions NOT hisec...

Barbie D0ll
Posted - 2011.08.17 00:41:00 - [41]
 

Ive done WC lvl 4 at least 50 times, of those times i farmed 10 of them for overseers, only ONCE did it drop faction loot, and it was a true sansha heavy neut worth 80 mil, they haven't even dropped scrap metal since then

I have never seen a faction spawn in any other mission and I have been missioning for 2 years. I get more faction spawns out of highsec anoms and highsec belt ratting than lvl 4 missions.

ONE MORE THING!!
the loot in lvl 3s are worth more than the loot in lvl 4s

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.17 01:46:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: StonedAGAIN
wer are talking bout the blockade and if the contractor still exists in 0.0 missions NOT hisec...
It doesn't matter where the agent is. The missions are the same regardless of where you run them, and as such, the loot (in particular) is designed to match where they are run the most — highsec.

If you run them outside of highsec, you already get increased rewards through better payout, bonus and LP. They're not meant to be sources of high-meta loot — they're meant to be sources of ISK and low-meta junk (and LP that you can use to turn that junk into high-meta gear).

Righteous Deeds
Posted - 2011.08.17 04:35:00 - [43]
 

The problem is without some chance of the occasional faction drop in a rat or structure, that drive to try your luck on just one more mission that session is gone. I get the balance issue, but missions are now just a monotonous grind. Seriously boring. They've been nerfed to the point that I can barely stand them anymore, and the game would do just fine if missions were more enjoyable (and yes, profitable).

I think the game would be better served with a few easter eggs in the missions, and don't think that would seriously detract from exploration.

Jaraida
Posted - 2011.08.17 05:50:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Jaraida on 17/08/2011 05:53:07
Edited by: Jaraida on 17/08/2011 05:52:49
Edited by: Jaraida on 17/08/2011 05:49:47
OP seems to miss an explanation for "Random".

Chance based is chance based.
There is no guarantee for faction spawns. They are there,and u can have luck and get one 3 times in a row, and u can be unlucky and you'll never get a single faction spawn in missions.

This thread is whining about chance is too low, or "random".
And for WC, a simple "Sansha/Angel/whatever-Overseer" is not a faction spawn. You'll want to have a "True Sansha" BS (or equivalent), they are dropping faction loot.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.17 06:05:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Jaraida
And for WC, a simple "Sansha/Angel/whatever-Overseer" is not a faction spawn. You'll want to have a "True Sansha" BS (or equivalent), they are dropping faction loot.
…and yet I've had snake and crystal implants and the normal bunch of faction ammo and tags from it. Close enough. Razz

Malcom Vincent
Posted - 2011.08.17 09:35:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: xXThunder StruckXx
Had blockade Lvl 4 last weekend. ( Hi sec Amarr space). Got a True Sansha BS in the final spawn, I forget the bounty, but he dropped Large true sansha pulse laser and true sansha LAR !!

Only the 3rd time I have seen faction spawn in this mission. Previous times were in gallente space.


+1 on officer drops in amarr high-sec.

Got and sold a few true sansha items about a month ago.

Salpad
Caldari
Carebears with Attitude
Posted - 2011.08.17 10:20:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
I ran your post through Google Translate and got this:


As far as wall-of-text goes, Stoned's wasn't a griveous offence.

Dr Geiger
Posted - 2011.08.17 10:57:00 - [48]
 

I like kittens. Sorry, but my post is about as relevant as some of the replies here to OP's question.


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