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Phanixis Ronuken
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:00:00 - [1]
 

I am new to exploration and the game in general. I wanted to try out exploration and decided to scan down some sites in 0.5 space. It takes a while with my current skills, and I always get the same results, an unstable wormhole. Where are all these radar, ladar, gravimetric and magnetometric sites that I heard about in the tutorial? All I get are wormholes, and I am reluctant to enter one due to lack of CONCORD protection.

Can anyone help me with this problem?

Thanks.

Derath Ellecon
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:10:00 - [2]
 

Luck of the draw. Sometimes all I get are crap sites and wormholes. Sometimes I find tons of radar sites

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:19:00 - [3]
 

Think about it this way.

There are tons of wormhole systems with statics to high sec. These are regularly used. Thus, there are constantly K162s generated in high sec, and these are likely what you are finding (most of the time).

As you are new you may not fully understand that, but basically, the amount of transit between high sec and wormhole space is extremely high, and thus there are lots of wormhole connecting these areas.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:37:00 - [4]
 

Most sites despawn after someone finds them and runs them. Wormholes stay around 'till they time out or someone despawns them. That's why you'll end up finding a lot of wormholes, especially in populated areas. If you want to find non-WH sites, go find somewhere where others aren't.

Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:44:00 - [5]
 

You chose the most awful time to do exploration, the weekend. Everybody and their uncle are out there scanning down the sites. Try doing it at less predictable time.

Phanixis Ronuken
Posted - 2011.08.13 23:18:00 - [6]
 

Ok, thanks for the information.

I regard to finding a less populated area, how exactly do I tell how populated an area is and located a less populated area on the map if said area is too populated?

Also, it would be much easier if I new the sites I scanned were wormholes from the word go. Is there any way to tell quickly? I usually need to get a 50% + hit before the game will bother to tell me the site is worthless.

One last thing, its hard to scan down objects when the system map rotates about your ship. Would be much easier to do if it rotated about a probe or the site you are interested. Any way to get the map to rotate about a different point?

Thanks for the help.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.13 23:57:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Phanixis Ronuken
Ok, thanks for the information.

I regard to finding a less populated area, how exactly do I tell how populated an area is and located a less populated area on the map if said area is too populated?

Also, it would be much easier if I new the sites I scanned were wormholes from the word go. Is there any way to tell quickly? I usually need to get a 50% + hit before the game will bother to tell me the site is worthless.

One last thing, its hard to scan down objects when the system map rotates about your ship. Would be much easier to do if it rotated about a probe or the site you are interested. Any way to get the map to rotate about a different point?

Thanks for the help.


The easiest way to tell how populated the system is is to have your map display either pilots in space in the last 30 min or jumps in the last hour/day.

Not without training Astrometrics 5 and using DSS probes.

And you can right click and drag to reposition the camera, it helps a lot. (Also, learn about Shift and Alt for probing, they're amazing)

Inserith Peon
Posted - 2011.08.14 00:35:00 - [8]
 

Train astrometics to 5 if you are serious about exploration. With it you can use DSS probes and see all the sigs in a system at one go. That will then allow you to narrow down the ones you want by looking at their signal strength - which ones to go for is something you learn by experience and note taking.


Anne Alingus
Posted - 2011.08.14 05:34:00 - [9]
 

Astrometrics 5 is a 20-ish day train that gives you the option to scan big systems with one Deep Space probe. There are very few systems this large. You can scan most systems with a combat probe or by scanning twice (takes about 5-7 seconds). If you use a Deep Space Probe you then need to reload core probes (10 seconds) to actually scan the sites down. It is up to you whether this convenience is worth a 20 day train. To me, it is not.

Emperor Salazar
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.14 05:39:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Anne Alingus
Astrometrics 5 is a 20-ish day train that gives you the option to scan big systems with one Deep Space probe.


This is not the only thing Deep Space Probes are good for.

Aitena
Posted - 2011.08.14 06:19:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Emperor Salazar
Originally by: Anne Alingus
Astrometrics 5 is a 20-ish day train that gives you the option to scan big systems with one Deep Space probe.


This is not the only thing Deep Space Probes are good for.


Emperor Salazar is right, DSPs have many uses. However, for a beginner, Astro V is not as important as the other support skills are. Being able to fly a T2/T3 cruiser should, in my opinion, be of much higher priority.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.08.14 18:18:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 14/08/2011 20:56:23

Originally by: Phanixis Ronuken
I regard to finding a less populated area, how exactly do I tell how populated an area is and located a less populated area on the map if said area is too populated?


As was already stated, check the Star Map stats and look for areas that are away from major trade / mission hubs.

Originally by: Phanixis Ronuken
Also, it would be much easier if I new the sites I scanned were wormholes from the word go. Is there any way to tell quickly? I usually need to get a 50% + hit before the game will bother to tell me the site is worthless.


I have to disagree with those that say train Astrometrics lv 5 and use Deep Space Probes. I find the signal strength of the signatures is not consistent or accurate enough to be worth it. Combat sites and Radar sites will show the same signal strength. Mag and Grav sites as well, etc.

Train up Astrometric Rangefinding and Astrometric Pinpointing to level 4, use Sisters of Eve Launcher and probes, fit up a scan rig on your ship and practice scanning.

Radar, Magnetometric, Gravimetric and Ladar sites will show what type at 25% signal strength.

'Unknown' sites, which are w-holes and combat sites, will show type at 75% signal strength.

If you're only looking for Radar, you can select 'ignore' on all the other signatures after getting 25% signal strength.

Originally by: Phanixis Ronuken
One last thing, its hard to scan down objects when the system map rotates about your ship. Would be much easier to do if it rotated about a probe or the site you are interested. Any way to get the map to rotate about a different point?


I warp to the sun and use the 5 probe method with the 1st probe (Center) being launched doing the initial scan at 32AU range to check sys for signatures. If sigs are present I lower the range to 8AU and launch 4 more probes. I place those at North, South, East, West (Top view looking down) of the 1st (Center) probe launched. All probes are at same elevation (Side view). After that it's just resize, move and scan, always keep the 1st (Center) probe placed on the signature. After 100% signal strength, bookmark the site, select 'ignore' and continue scanning down the other signatures.

There's plenty of Scan Vids on youtube.


Hold right click mouse and drag to center the system view on your screen.

Hold left click mouse and drag to rotate the system view from top view to side view or side to side, invert, etc.

Hold Shift + left click mouse on arrow of one probe to move all probes at same time. Will also work on changing scan radius of all probes at same time.

Hold Alt + left click mouse on arrow of outer probe to move all probes in towards or out away from signature at same time.


Weekends are the worst time to do exploration due to everyone and their mothers doing exploration. To even compete with the mad rush, you'll need to quickly scan and complete the sites asap in a well fitted all-in-one (exploration and combat) ship. If you happen to find an isolated area to scan, then you can use multiple ships if needed.

Good luck and remember this: Exploration - It's not just an adventure, it's a job.

Emperor Salazar
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.15 11:32:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson


I have to disagree with those that say train Astrometrics lv 5 and use Deep Space Probes. I find the signal strength of the signatures is not consistent or accurate enough to be worth it. Combat sites and Radar sites will show the same signal strength. Mag and Grav sites as well, etc.




You're doing it wrong.

DSPs are extremely consistent, so consistent in fact that in some smaller regions, I can farm a site all day, finding it easily over and over again.

I suggest having another go at it.

Scoto Timta
EveMerc's
Posted - 2011.08.15 15:25:00 - [14]
 

You can recenter the system view by left-clicking on a probe name, planet name, bookmark name, etc. The view will recenter on that item. Actually, might be a double-click. I do it so much without thinking now that I can't remember which it is (single or double click).

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.15 19:35:00 - [15]
 


Try quieter systems, in busy systems they get completed quickly, back waters and you can often find several.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.15 19:51:00 - [16]
 

Check this out.
You can reverse engineer the information in there to figure out the 3 bands for your ship and skills.

Only go for the "low" band. It wont ever be a WH. The top 2 bands could be.

hope this helps and if you have any questions feel free to ask.


 

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