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Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2011.08.14 00:03:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Salah22
*Sigh*

I see that the community is as friendly and mature as ever. I'll rephrase it because you seem to be missing the point completely :

[New players] <--------- HUGE INSURMOUNTABLE CHASM ---------> [Current players]

In most games you can catch up to veterans by putting more time into the game, grind xp, farm gold, there is always a way to "catch up" and reach your objective with more dedication. In Eve you can't because the speed at which you learn skills can't be helped. If you want to do level 3-4-5 missions for example, you need to be able to fly a big ship, and in order to do that ISK is not enough you need to get the skills for it.

All MMOs do the logical thing which is to have a level cap (ability) while letting people get ahead with items and time. Eve does the inverse, there is no cap on the maximum ability you can reach but what is limited is the speed at which you can attain it. It doesn't make sens to me, and seeing as the player base hasn't moved in 5 years, the numbers agree.

Now if you have 2 brain cells to rub together I'd like to hear YOUR ARGUMENT for or against. If you'r just looking for a place to flame with a minimum amount of words, move along your input isn't wanted here.
I understand where you're coming from. But, when my bro started I jumped in frigates and cruisers and taught him what to train to be in a Harbinger BC(He chose Amar as his starting race). So, playing with new players is do able, just time consuming, as most of Eve is.
I do agree with you on the training thing, I bet CCP did it this way so you'd buy multiple subscriptions so you can meta game.

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2011.08.14 00:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Draken en Distel

Kind of hard since Eve skills are one of a kind. But in other MMOs you can make different classes, healer, dps, tank, etc and level them all at the same time and quickly all depending on the time you spend, you can have a max level class in a matter of weeks if you are willing to put the necessary time. In Eve you can play 12 hours a day, you won't be able to fly that awesome battleship you want any faster. Why reward patience only and not dedication?



And by dedication you mean killing hundreds of wild boars and when you are done you repeat that a hundred times. This kind of "gameplay" is more than stupid. I know that other MMO developers think it's cool to torture their players with this brain damaging crap. This does not mean CCP has to make the same mistake.

This is actually one of the things i love the most in EVE. You can enjoy playing the game right from the start. You don't have to kill a gazillion wild boars and quit your job to run dungeons for half a year to get your uber gear only to find out that the endgame sucks.

This is what makes EVE a bit more real. You have the time to actually do something. Produce ships, fight wars, play the market, explore wormholes, ... This does not happen in other games because everyone is busy killing wild boars. But if i read your comments the only thing you seam interested in is the closest thing EVE has to wild boars, grinding missions.

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.08.14 01:28:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Feligast
Returning Player, and Why I Didn't Read the OP

Because of QQ.

You won't be missed.


Why exactly do you think anyone who's leaving is going to give a crap what you think of them after they leave? It's interesting how people like you are going around trolling these goodbye threads and posts every second you get.

It's arrogant self-important **** heads like you that are part of the reason EVE is dying.

Donatella D'Tren
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.08.14 01:52:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Valei Khurelem
Originally by: Feligast
Returning Player, and Why I Didn't Read the OP

Because of QQ.

You won't be missed.


Why exactly do you think anyone who's leaving is going to give a crap what you think of them after they leave? It's interesting how people like you are going around trolling these goodbye threads and posts every second you get.

It's arrogant self-important **** heads like you that are part of the reason EVE is dying.


Quit with him and contract your stuff. You will be equally missed as OP.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.08.14 02:32:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Salah22
I can't play with my friends. I invited 2 buddies to come test out the game with me these couple of days, but since I am flying cruisers (13m SP from before, which is not even much at all) and they are still training basic repair skills, there is no way for us to band together and play together, even for PVE. I would have gladly made a new character just to play with them, but then again you can only train skills on 1 character at a time... Really bad decision. No other MMO does this and for good reason.


What is stopping you flying your cruiser, destroyer or frigate to help your friends? Is there some reason you have to all be flying the same class of ship?

I regularly drag friends along on level 4 missions when they're only flying frigates and destroyers. They get to pew-pew at the small targets which annoy me, and I save up a few big targets so they get to take part in the big explosions too.

You could easily take on L3 missions in your cruiser with your friends helping you out in frigates. A webifier here, an extra drone or two there, and what do you know the L3 mission is a piece of cake!

Play to your friends' strengths.

Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:45:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Salah22
Edited by: Salah22 on 13/08/2011 20:48:28
I can't play with my friends. I invited 2 buddies to come test out the game with me these couple of days, but since I am flying cruisers (13m SP from before, which is not even much at all) and they are still training basic repair skills,


My suggestions :

1) Learn how remapping works
2) Have some patience, this isn't a solog game

With remapping and maybe implants people can plan their skills and be in T2 ships with T2 fits in a week or two. Considering this is a game of years, that is really way too fast.

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:48:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 14/08/2011 03:54:06
Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 14/08/2011 03:48:36
Originally by: Donatella D'Tren
Originally by: Valei Khurelem
Originally by: Feligast
Returning Player, and Why I Didn't Read the OP

Because of QQ.

You won't be missed.


Why exactly do you think anyone who's leaving is going to give a crap what you think of them after they leave? It's interesting how people like you are going around trolling these goodbye threads and posts every second you get.

It's arrogant self-important **** heads like you that are part of the reason EVE is dying.


Quit with him and contract your stuff. You will be equally missed as OP.


And then you'll leave because you will have no one to gank or harass anymore ;) and no, keeping my stuff and my character is a brilliant idea because I know the thought of someone coming back if the situation with the game improves ****es people like you off completely especially if you can't have my stuff beforehand and gain an unfair advantage.

Lazrim Mond
Posted - 2011.08.14 08:06:00 - [38]
 

Oh my! When they got rid of learning skills almost a year ago that was supposed to be the panacea for keeping new players. Now it seems what is really in the way of new player retention are the skills themselves.
Oh Salah why you would want to play this game when there are sooooo many other level 80 in 2 weeks games out there? Not to mention all the FPS's.
Chin up though brother everything you are wishing for is inevitable.(Hopefully for players like me later rather than sooner) As soon as Sony and CCP were mentioned in the same sentence players like you are destined to get your way even in this game.

Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.14 08:20:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Valei Khurelem
Originally by: Feligast
Returning Player, and Why I Didn't Read the OP

Because of QQ.

You won't be missed.


It's arrogant self-important **** heads like you that are part of the reason EVE is dying.


And yet, you are still here.

Mary Astell
Posted - 2011.08.14 08:56:00 - [40]
 

I have new players in rifters hero-tackling. They seem to have fun. Our most recent rifter pilot just got into a stiletto and is loving it.

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
Posted - 2011.08.14 09:13:00 - [41]
 

People these are just marketing trolls testing their stupid ideas of what else to make P2W. When these ***b ***s understand they picked up wrong player base. Probably never. Just ignore them and that's it or better troll them.

SP for RM or ISK? Go play WoW with your friends Salah22 and never return.
There you dont have to think use strategy or pay consequences for ***b decisions. Mindless games for mindless people.

EVE Online is too smart for you.

Kaylith Sen
Posted - 2011.08.14 09:22:00 - [42]
 

Has to be a troll surely?

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
Posted - 2011.08.14 09:41:00 - [43]
 

No its not surely troll. Just look like one of theirs.
Usual mindless stuff with perverted facts and lots of emotions but empty in essence.

I will be laughing a lot on my way out of EVE if they ever implement SP for ISK RM or whatever else. It will kill their cashcow and something that stupid apart from sorrow of loss also raise up laugh at stupidity.

CanIPost Please
Posted - 2011.08.14 12:04:00 - [44]
 

1. No one said anything about skillpoints for ISK. They said skillpoints for money.
2. EVE's PVP-oriented game style means the field "should" be more level than in other MMO's. If you're on these forums, you've probably heard players with tens of millions of skillpoints complaining about Titans. Well, to a noob, a vet in a Vagabond or Myrmidon IS a Titan.
3.
Originally by: Feligast
Returning Player, and Why I Didn't Read the OP

Because of QQ.

You won't be missed.


The strength of any MMO really has to be it's playerbase. What makes EVE's playerbase unique is not that they are good players. Many of you suck pretty badly at a game you've been playing for years. What makes EVE's playerbase unique is that they're willing to go to such extremes to win (i.e., maintain 6 accounts, throw an eTantrum if someone suggests changing the game to make it more fair, buying ISK, flying to Iceland). If EVE's playerbase is so great, why hasn't such a great game attracted more than 10,000 new subscribers in 5 years?
4.non sequitur("It does not follow."): Winning at EVE is not a matter of skillpoints.->People with more money could buy more skillpoints.->Therefore, people with more money could pay-to-win in EVE.

The advantages of higher skillpoints compound. While millions of skillpoints in industry may not seem to be relevant to PVP, if you can build the ships you fly, you will fly them differently than if you have to buy them. You will fly them closer to "an inch from out of control", and it will make you a better PVPer.
Also, a new player will only be able to fit a ship in standard, predictable ways which makes them easy to counter, whereas a veteran can make a ship effective in a multitude of ways (a testament to one of EVE's many good aspects), making it hard to prepare for and easy for an opposing player to make a mistake right from the outset.
5.
Originally by: generic EVE player
My noobie friends always do level 4's with me in badly fit Rifters.

Really? You have that many friends that you can just keep cycling through? And, don't any of them ever stick around?
6.
Originally by: Dane El
I'm glad Eve does not reward the chronically online to the same extent most other MMOs do.

If it doesn't reward you for being online and playing, then what DOES it reward you for? Think about it. (Hint: For paying them and GTFO of their face. A noob and a vet use the same server resources.)
7.
Originally by: generic EVE player
You can fit a Rifter and go roam in null in 2 days.

Try it.
8. Money for skillpoints would not break EVE's sandbox gameplay. If you think so, you need to look up the meaning of the term.
9. You don't want new players to play on a different server (Eternity?), buy skillpoints(this.thread), be able to warp away (interdiction, in general), be able to evade (web+scrambler+microwarpdrive+skillpoints), be able to inflict damage (web+neut), be able to tank (web+neut+skillpoints), gang up on you,
Originally by: generic EVE player
waaaaaa . . . fix blobbing, CCP.

avoid fighting you,
Originally by: generic EVE player
waaaaaa . . . nerf high sec . . . risk/reward . . . 0.0 is the real game . . . etc.

So, basically, you want us to just sit there and die repeatedly while you laugh at us. Is that about right?

I'll say it again: That is not an experience I will pay for.
And, before you tell me to go play World of Warcraft (CCP should get a percentage on the referrals to Blizzard.), hold your breath.
I already am.

Kesshisan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.14 22:04:00 - [45]
 

My character just hit 1 year old. I am an infant compared to many EvE players. In this 1 year I have done the following:

Trained perfect refining (at most stations.)
Trained perfect production efficiency.
Trained the ability to use many R&D agents.
Trained to Logistics V and Minmatar Cruisers V.
Run incursions in a Scimitar.
Run Level 4s solo in a Gila (I practically afk them.)
Stopped training on my main to train up trading on an alt.
Trained to use a Retriever for null sec mining ops.
Trained decent scanning skills.
Trained to Ore Industrial IV and own multiple Noctii.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kesshisan

I have done a lot of stuff in 12 months. And this is all done easily with under 20 million skill points.

The way I see it, I may have Minmatar Cruisers V and Logistics V, but when I undock in my Gila, those 2.8 million SP don't help me one bit. If I don't have an afterburner on my ship, the 750,000 skill points from Afterburner V and Fuel Conservation V don't help me one bit. And my 4.2million Industry skill points... they only help when I mine, which is almost never, which means they don't help me at all.

So when I have this one ship that I really love, the Gila, most of my skill points don't matter. I may have 19,000,000 SP, but perhaps only 4 or 5 million matter. And even then, since my powergrid is just fine on my Gila (it's the CPU that is the issue) anything which reduces powergrid requirements or increases my ship's powergrid are also in the category of "skill points that don't matter."

The same thing above applies to every other player in EvE, too. A player's ability to fly a carrier doesn't help them pilot a Rifter. Their ability to shoot missiles doesn't help them to shoot autocannons.

If you cannot learn this, then you are probably better off leaving EvE as you first claimed. I don't say this to be mean, but rather to be honest. I wish you the best of luck with whichever choice you make. And if you decide to give EvE another chance, and want some help, please send me a message in game. I will be more than willing to help you and your new friends out.

Good luck, no matter what your choose.

Dani Leone
Gallente
Positively Idle
Posted - 2011.08.14 22:31:00 - [46]
 

So let me get this straight, instead of shipping down to, lets say, a rifter or merlin, you decided to ignore your bros?

What a great friend you are.

You ought to check out those old goonswarm recruitment posters, because they == truth Newbs can and do make a huge difference, if you encourage and help them along and give them a reason to do so.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Marara Kovacs
Posted - 2011.08.14 22:37:00 - [47]
 

Goodbye then.

Mixne
Posted - 2011.08.15 01:24:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Kesshisan
My character just hit 1 year old. I am an infant compared to many EvE players. In this 1 year I have done the following:

Trained perfect refining (at most stations.)
Trained perfect production efficiency.
Trained the ability to use many R&D agents.
Trained to Logistics V and Minmatar Cruisers V.
Run incursions in a Scimitar.
Run Level 4s solo in a Gila (I practically afk them.)
Stopped training on my main to train up trading on an alt.
Trained to use a Retriever for null sec mining ops.
Trained decent scanning skills.
Trained to Ore Industrial IV and own multiple Noctii.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kesshisan

I have done a lot of stuff in 12 months. And this is all done easily with under 20 million skill points.

The way I see it, I may have Minmatar Cruisers V and Logistics V, but when I undock in my Gila, those 2.8 million SP don't help me one bit. If I don't have an afterburner on my ship, the 750,000 skill points from Afterburner V and Fuel Conservation V don't help me one bit. And my 4.2million Industry skill points... they only help when I mine, which is almost never, which means they don't help me at all.

So when I have this one ship that I really love, the Gila, most of my skill points don't matter. I may have 19,000,000 SP, but perhaps only 4 or 5 million matter. And even then, since my powergrid is just fine on my Gila (it's the CPU that is the issue) anything which reduces powergrid requirements or increases my ship's powergrid are also in the category of "skill points that don't matter."

The same thing above applies to every other player in EvE, too. A player's ability to fly a carrier doesn't help them pilot a Rifter. Their ability to shoot missiles doesn't help them to shoot autocannons.

If you cannot learn this, then you are probably better off leaving EvE as you first claimed. I don't say this to be mean, but rather to be honest. I wish you the best of luck with whichever choice you make. And if you decide to give EvE another chance, and want some help, please send me a message in game. I will be more than willing to help you and your new friends out.

Good luck, no matter what your choose.


So after one year, you can fly one ship well that you really love? What if you wanted to fly something else, say a battleship? Another year or so? You're right, that's great game design and a lot of fun. Limiting players choices to an extremely small subset of the game is a tremendous barrier to entry.

Read from post 155 and on in this thread if you want reasons why PLEX to SP make sense. I personally believe a scaling SP return per PLEX based on the number of SP you already have makes the most sense. The more SP you have, the more PLEX it is going to cost you to get the same amount of SP return.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537830&page=6

Kesshisan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.15 03:02:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Mixne
So after one year, you can fly one ship well that you really love? What if you wanted to fly something else, say a battleship? Another year or so? You're right, that's great game design and a lot of fun. Limiting players choices to an extremely small subset of the game is a tremendous barrier to entry.


If that is what took away from my post said then I am sorry, I must not have been clear. Please accept my apologies.

There are many ships which I enjoy flying, the Rifter, the Gila, the Caracal, the Scimitar, the Noctis, and more, too. I do seem to really favor the Gila over any other ship but this does not mean that I don't enjoy the other ships I've flown.

I was flying "fun ships" that I enjoyed in under 2 months from starting EvE. And the coolest thing about EvE is that when I found another fun ship, I didn't need to "reroll" to fly it.

Originally by: Mixne
Read from post 155 and on in this thread if you want reasons why PLEX to SP make sense. I personally believe a scaling SP return per PLEX based on the number of SP you already have makes the most sense. The more SP you have, the more PLEX it is going to cost you to get the same amount of SP return.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537830&page=6


You can already get Plex for SP. Buy plex, sell for isk, use isk to buy a character with high SP. This suggestion is unnecessary.

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.08.15 04:15:00 - [50]
 

You poor bastard, not only are you clueless but you're bring bashed for being clueless...

I'm a 40M SP char that flies vargur and I'll gladly send a bit of time zipping around ina rifter with ppl i meet in the help channel

i actually have a tristan fitted with Acs and rockets for the lolz

but if they have a BC, ill take them to a lvl 4 too and then can fly with me and not die (provided they listen to me and dont pop triggers)

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.08.15 06:10:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 15/08/2011 06:11:26
First you train some ships you like. Then you get good in them. Then you start cross-training to see what else is out there. Then you realize how many SPs were left to train on the ships you trained early. And so on and so forth. Unless you're an experienced player max-skilling an alt for a specific task, this process of learning can go on for years. If Eve is the game for you, you'll stay entertained by the long slow process of learning what your weaknesses actually are and training to fix them, pure and simple.

Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.15 06:20:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Salah22
Edited by: Salah22 on 13/08/2011 20:48:28
I havent played this game since 2006. I got a 5 day ticket email and so I came back to check it out. I really love what has been done so far, the redesigned stations, the captain quarters, the awesome character creator, the certifications, and everything else that I haven't seen yet.

However the ONE FUNDAMENTAL reason that made me leave in the first place, and that prevent me from going back to this game is still here :

I can't play with my friends. I invited 2 buddies to come test out the game with me these couple of days, but since I am flying cruisers (13m SP from before, which is not even much at all) and they are still training basic repair skills, there is no way for us to band together and play together, even for PVE. I would have gladly made a new character just to play with them, but then again you can only train skills on 1 character at a time... Really bad decision. No other MMO does this and for good reason.

Why are you stuck in the mind set that you MUST be a continual 1 year+ player to "compete"? It does not take long to train to a level 4 frigate hull +support skills that can take on the frigates in your L2 missions.

Of course I could abandon my main, but not being able to train him after all the time spent on him and the monthly subscriptions it would feel like a waste. So I have a choice between either coming back and playing solo, or playing with my friends but being a cripple. Most good organisations now ask for 15m sp minimum and a lot ask for 20m too. I can't play this game feeling less than useless, its not fun at all. Neither options are pleasant... =/

What makes you think a corp is "good" just because they require a certain amount of SP? Apparently you are only picking corps that require SP rather than those corps that require a proper attitude and can help those new players.

My suggestions :

1) Let all characters on an account train at the same time. What's the worst that can happen?

People will train alts just for selling.

2) Let people buy skill points. I would gladly pay around 5$ for 1m SP or so. This would let new players catch on a little with old players, since 10m sp would cost around 50$, and 20m would be 100$, still steep but somewhat reasonable considering it is only a tiny tiny fraction of what a lot of veterans have in SP.

Uh oh...incoming anti RMT replies...

So I won't be renewing after the 5 free days are over. I just hope it doesn't take the developers another 5 years to address these issues. When I left there were 30k players online on average, and after 5 years I come back and I still see 30k players online. I think there are good reasons that the game is not growing, and instead of fixing superficial issues, fundamental problems should be addressed first like 1) new players being totally useless and 2) not being able to play with friends who just join.

Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.15 06:33:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Salah22
*Sigh*

I see that the community is as friendly and mature as ever. I'll rephrase it because you seem to be missing the point completely :

[New players] <--------- HUGE INSURMOUNTABLE CHASM ---------> [Current players]

In most games you can catch up to veterans by putting more time into the game, grind xp, farm gold, there is always a way to "catch up" and reach your objective with more dedication. In Eve you can't because the speed at which you learn skills can't be helped. If you want to do level 3-4-5 missions for example, you need to be able to fly a big ship, and in order to do that ISK is not enough you need to get the skills for it.

Why are people so in a rush to get into ships that they are not fit to fly yet? This is a more complicated game than your arrow slinging, sword wielding, magic firing MMOG. Also, please define "big". Some level 4s can be done in an AF, or a HAC. On the subject of ISK, you have been able to buy characters for a long time, legally.


All MMOs do the logical thing which is to have a level cap (ability) while letting people get ahead with items and time. Eve does the inverse, there is no cap on the maximum ability you can reach but what is limited is the speed at which you can attain it. It doesn't make sens to me, and seeing as the player base hasn't moved in 5 years, the numbers agree.

Actually in RL it takes time to learn things. Since EO is much more complicated than other games, the RL time it takes gives you time to learn the game by reading guides, wikis, etc.

Now if you have 2 brain cells to rub together I'd like to hear YOUR ARGUMENT for or against. If you'r just looking for a place to flame with a minimum amount of words, move along your input isn't wanted here.



Allow me to change some words in your quote:



Originally by: Salah22
*Sigh*

In most games you can catch up to veterans by putting more time into the game, grind xp, farm gold, there is always a way to "catch up" and reach your objective with more dedication. In Eve you can't because the speed at which you learn skills can't be helped. If you want to do level 80-90 instances for example, you need to be able to grind quests and kill mobs over time to gain levels, and in order to do that gold/plat is not enough you need to get the skills for it [ed note: you still need to learn how to play the game; just not as much time as EO]. You have to still spend time.






Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.08.15 07:15:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 15/08/2011 07:18:25

I'm a 54.6m carrier pilot and I've helped rookies.

I've responded to calls in local for help with level 1 missions by buying and fitting with T1 modules a T1 frigate (Kestrel) on the spot.

I then proceed to the mission with them, watch their HP, and blast away any NPC that seem like too much for them. All the while babbling about useful stuff for them to learn.

I've also invited them into level 4 missions where they had a chance to shoot at the frigates (they are better at that), loot/salvage, and earn a lot from the bounties.

I've also mined with them, while boosting with an Orca and hauling ore for them. Paying for what they mine.

shellree
Minmatar
Screaming Meercats
Posted - 2011.08.15 07:22:00 - [55]
 

can i haz ur stuff

Signal11th
Posted - 2011.08.15 08:13:00 - [56]
 

Yet again another childish whine about how the gap between new players and old players is unsurmountable and how the introduction of a $ for SP is the way to bridge this gap.

Here's a few pointers..

1: The gap is completely irrelevant, 3 one month old players can quite easily beat a 40mil semi-vet in his shiny CNR. This is a game where in the majority of the time the amount of people in your gang is more important than your uber ship you have just fitted. See 0.0 blobs and gatecamps for that reasoning.

Anyone checking KB's will see the amount of high SP but low IQ players getting their 2bil death machine getting killed by a couple of ships held together by tape and staples.

2: You can be vaulable to any fleet by being a tackler or scout, now you can do this with hardly any skillpoints. You feel useless but I imagine you don't actually want to be a tackler you want to be the "hero" FC which I can guarantee to you no amount of SP is going to make you good at, you either have it or you don't or you spend a long time learning.

3: Dollars for SP, whilst I don't have a real problem with this as tbh honest there will be lots of idiots flying around in high SP ships getting ganked by low SP players who actually could be arsed to learn about the game instead of having no patience and wanting to fly the affore mentioned shiny ship that will look good on my/anyone elses KB.


It really is the same crapola spouted everytime about "the" gap which doesn't really exist and very impatient people wanting to fly that BS in 2 days instead of 6 months. Most good 0.0 corps (if that's where you want to go) have trainer corps that you can join to learn the ropes whilst your waiting to be that hero FC. You have 13m SP which is enough to be helpful in any fleet depending on where the skills lie.

The phrase "walk before you run" springs to mind.

ThisIsntMyMain
Posted - 2011.08.15 09:12:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Salah22
*Sigh*
[New players] <--------- HUGE INSURMOUNTABLE CHASM ---------> [Current players]


^^ Complete and utter bullsh**

My FIRST DAY in eve I was in a frigate shooting people in 0.0
I died lots
So what
It was fun

Attitude is everything.

Chimera Ur
Nibado Inc
Posted - 2011.08.15 09:20:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Salah22

I can't play with my friends. I invited 2 buddies to come test out the game with me these couple of days, but since I am flying cruisers (13m SP from before, which is not even much at all) and they are still training basic repair skills, there is no way for us to band together and play together, even for PVE.


Complete and utter nonsense. I do level 4's with my low-SP alt. I jump in, grab all the aggro, and then I have the alt jump in and just fire missiles at everything. That alt can barely fly the drake she's in, only has some missiles skills and virtually no tank skills at all. You can easily do that with your friends. That way they make millions of isks, get a lot of corp rep, and have loads of fun shooting at stuff without anything shooting them.

I simply don't believe you don't know this, so I suspect you just want to be able to train 3 alts at a time and disguise it as some complaint about not being able to play with your friends. Well too bad that disguise is so damn obvious. So go ahead and **** off, you won't be missed.

Dasola
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.15 09:26:00 - [59]
 

you clearly have not seen youtube video with 2 days old characters flying rifters and going at it on pvp..

malcovas Henderson
Posted - 2011.08.15 09:28:00 - [60]
 

I so want to comment on this thread. But so much is wrong with it it would take an Essay of Epic proportions to reply.


So i'm just going to say "No to SP for isk or RM" it isnt needed. WoW is in need of new subs, if you want instant gratification go there instead


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