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Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:43:00 - [1]
 

Soo I kinda fiddled with a fit for awhile, and I came up with this.

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It's "supposed" to be for low sec and/or null sec exploration all-in-one without forcing a refit (lack of stations in null and some low sec areas)

Problem with my decision making skills here is that I fiddled with it so much I don't really know how well it could work.

Most people would say that dropping the 6th launcher is a serious sacrifice in dps, but as it stands I wouldn't have a 6th launcher on my normal fit, as I'd use the Cap Regen subsystem which drops a high slot for a low slot, which atm I duel rep that layout. This fitting I condensed the reps into the deadspace rep and added another high slot to fit a cloak. As for the mwd, I really don't know how I got that cap stable. It started with fiddling with cap mods then ended with launchers and other stuff.

Basically, I ended with a fit that I "think" looks good, but I screwed with it so much that it might be flawed and I need feedback to see what I may or may not be missing.

Loraine Gess2
Posted - 2011.08.12 18:03:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Renix Xerar
exploration all-in-one


Originally by: Renix Xerar
****fit T3 with a billion isk repper, microwarpdrive, no AB, signature the size of a moon, and no ability to do half of the exploration sites you'd find



...Tell me exactly how this works?

Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.12 20:01:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess2
Originally by: Renix Xerar
exploration all-in-one


Originally by: Renix Xerar
****fit T3 with a billion isk repper, microwarpdrive, no AB, signature the size of a moon, and no ability to do half of the exploration sites you'd find



...Tell me exactly how this works?


Billion isk? Where are you buying yours? It's 300m.

mwd is for gate/cloak trick, ab in cargo if swapping fittings is possible in the current system. Sigs are easy to bypass if you play it safe and go quiet.. Pretty sure this could handle all low sec sites.

Honestly, most sites you find in low sec aren't hard and you can manage with gimped prop turning arc. For the tougher ones, like I said, swapping an AB isn't hard if it's possible atm.

Valetta Vasquez
Posted - 2011.08.13 12:32:00 - [4]
 

The rep is 600 mil at the moment, thats quite pricey for a lowsec ship imo. As for the all in one, I'd like to see at least a Codebreaker in there. At the moment this is just for plexes etc, not an all in one. Mag sites, fair enough, but Radar's I personally wouldn't ignore.

I have a similar setup I'm still toying with for WH's, I'm still not decided on a dual rep, or extra launcher though.

All in all, I like the setup, but for me it seems pricey for low-null. But hey, if you can afford it, why not?

Because Of Door
Posted - 2011.08.13 12:39:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Because Of Door on 13/08/2011 12:50:55
Too much bling for lo-sec. Fuel Catalyst only gives a bonus to Afterburners btw.

You may as well stick all that, minus the cloak, on a sacrilege for 1/5th of the price and get the same performance.

As others have pointed out. You can only do combat sites, so it isn't all-in-one.

2 fits -

[Legion, Legion - Exploration no cloak]

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher

Large Capacitor Battery II
10MN Afterburner II
Codebreaker I
Analyzer I

Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Hammerhead II x5



[Legion, Explorer Pulse Crap DPS]

Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Codebreaker I
Analyzer I

Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Dark Blood Energized Thermic Membrane
Dark Blood Energized Reflective Membrane
Dark Blood Medium Armor Repairer

Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-EM Pump I

The Legion isn't that great at doing the all-in-one exploration thing...

Because Of Door
Posted - 2011.08.13 13:01:00 - [6]
 

HAM Sandwich fit - similar to your original, but about 700m less expensive...

[Legion, Legion fit]

Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Core Probe Launcher I

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Comparision with a sacrilege (this costs 160m ISK)


[Sacrilege, grunt]

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile
Core Probe Launcher I

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Stasis Webifier II

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.13 17:52:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Renix Xerar on 13/08/2011 17:56:49
All in one was poor word choice, by that I just meant solo ( no need for scout/scanner alt )

Fuel Catalyst - That.. that right there would be something I was talking about missing. It was an old fit that had an AB on it that I was twiddling with, so I completely overlooked the AB bonus when I swapped for an mwd.

Also, I think it'd be helpful to mention right now that I can get all the faction mods for 40-50% off on a regular basis, the deadspace rep is the only part that is expensive. Which, imo, I don't mind it because you get more bonus than say a CN Invuln for roughly the same price (at the time I came up with it, rep being 300-400m on average)

Edit: Atm, the other A-Types are 300-400m on average, they're the same stats, I'd just buy one of those.

Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.13 18:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Because Of Door
Edited by: Because Of Door on 13/08/2011 12:50:55

The Legion isn't that great at doing the all-in-one exploration thing...


:3 I'd feel terrible if you actually tried those fits at one point.

McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
Posted - 2011.08.13 21:48:00 - [9]
 

HAM Legion is bull****, you cannot kill frigs, get scrambled and webbed and die. Didnt even check the rest of the fit, coulndt be bothered.

Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.13 22:49:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: McRoll
HAM Legion is bull****, you cannot kill frigs, get scrambled and webbed and die. Didnt even check the rest of the fit, coulndt be bothered.


Ignorant post is ignorant.

Because Of Door
Posted - 2011.08.14 00:47:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Renix Xerar
:3 I'd feel terrible if you actually tried those fits at one point.


You learn by doing... EmbarassedLaughing

I have got a lot of mileage out of the Sacrilege over the years fitted like that, it is good for at least one thing... ;) as it is I gave up on the Legion for cloaky exploration and trained for a Loki instead. Evil or Very Mad

Good luck with it... hope my rather downbeat experience is at least useful... Laughing


Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.08.14 02:39:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Because Of Door
Originally by: Renix Xerar
:3 I'd feel terrible if you actually tried those fits at one point.


You learn by doing... EmbarassedLaughing

I have got a lot of mileage out of the Sacrilege over the years fitted like that, it is good for at least one thing... ;) as it is I gave up on the Legion for cloaky exploration and trained for a Loki instead. Evil or Very Mad

Good luck with it... hope my rather downbeat experience is at least useful... Laughing



It wasn't the sac fit, that one was alright. It's just that those legion fits are pretty gimped. The first one was only good for shooting the mild frigates and cruisers in 2/10s and radar sites with the 3 turrets.

But regardless, Legion isn't supposed to be fit with all the mods attached to it at once, nor is any ship. There's a way to make it the perfect all-in-one if you're willing to dock up and change subsystems and mods at some point. I was just fiddling with subsystems and such to see if I could get it as low maintenance as I could. Worst comes to worst, I just fit it the generic way and suffer through only 'sploring in station systems and going through an undock every time I find a worthy system.

Aitena
Posted - 2011.08.14 06:21:00 - [13]
 

Too much bling? no such thing.


 

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