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Dr Power
Posted - 2011.08.12 12:35:00 - [1]
 

Current specs:
motherboard = Intel BoxDH67GDB3
processor = i3 2100T
ram = 4GB DDR3
hdd = ocz vertex 2
Antex 300W PSU
Monitor is 1680x1050 but I'm just as likely to run in window so that may not be critical.

I can run the game, but the i3's video can not run incarna well. As such I'm looking to get a video card. The mobo has a pci-e 2.0 slot as well as pci slots, I'm kind of hoping I can avoid a psu upgrade here.

Suggestions?



Dr Power
Posted - 2011.08.12 12:54:00 - [2]
 

At the moment I'm thinking maybe a gt 430 which should fit within the current psu, not sure about Incarna performance on that though.

Br41n
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.08.12 12:56:00 - [3]
 

just call the budget

HD5670 or something like that would do fine

Hired Assasin
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:17:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Hired Assasin on 12/08/2011 16:17:36
you put out cash for a SSD yet no cash for a G Card? if you are going to get any card for eve and most other games then i would suggest any Nvidia cards

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:20:00 - [5]
 

300W? Sheesh. I know you're trying to avoid upgrading your PSU, but that's really going to limit your options here.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dr Power
At the moment I'm thinking maybe a gt 430 which should fit within the current psu, not sure about Incarna performance on that though.


I run a sparkle gt430 512m with less processor and ram than you, and I am pretty sure it would run well on a 300 watt PSU. Its is a very low power device.

With 1 client I can run decent graphics settings at 1366X768 and get great FPS in space and about 30FPS in CQ.

I can run 3 clients at a time if i set the second 2 clients to 'low' and keep CQ off.

If you find a gt430 with 1 gig it should run 1 client quite well.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:32:00 - [7]
 

I'm surprised that the damn thing even boots at all with a 300W PSU...

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dr Power

I can run the game, but the i3's video can not run incarna well.



Welcome to Incarna, a new video card probably wont help that.




Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:49:00 - [9]
 

a video card will vastly improve your performance, The internal GPU within a 2100T is fairly weak, it can do computation to support most modern video cards so you have a multitude of choices. So now the question becomes which one do you buy. Well I agree with the previous post, a 430 would be fitting in your power range. There is also the 6670 which isnt a half bad card.

Antario T'nar
Posted - 2011.08.12 16:55:00 - [10]
 

300W will not cut it when you insert a vid card

Kijo Rikki
Caldari
Point of No Return
Waterboard
Posted - 2011.08.12 17:18:00 - [11]
 

Quote:
Dr Power


irony?

Kallista Naari
Posted - 2011.08.13 21:17:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Kallista Naari on 13/08/2011 21:17:48
I bought a Geforce GT 240 for pretty cheap and it runs eve just fine. I also have a Geforce 9800GT in my other machine, and it runs fine also.

The good thing about the gt240 is that it doesn't need a lot of power to run, in fact I think 300watt would be fine for it.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.13 21:23:00 - [13]
 

4GB RAM will become your bottleneck..

Marchocias
Posted - 2011.08.13 23:23:00 - [14]
 

Can power even be measured that small?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.08.13 23:55:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 13/08/2011 23:59:04

4GB of RAM is unlikely to be a bottleneck even for two EVE clients with Incarna loaded, let alone a single client.

His CPU has a TDP of barely 35W, and the SDD only uses a token amount of electricity too, so I would be not particularly surprised if his entire machine only uses about half of those close to 300W the PSU is supposed to be able to push out.
He could probably get away with sticking a Radeon HD 6670 (allegedly uses only 66W, costs about 80$ and should be able to deliver a passable performance even with Incarna) inside that machine without upgrading the PSU, maybe even something better than that.

It would be nice if he could actually measure the power draw when the PC is at full usage, so we know how much "slack" he can rely on (and more detailed info regarding the PSU model).
Usually, for an alleged "300W PSU" of questionable provenience and unknown efficiency, you want to use at most 250W total peak power, preferably only around 200W or thereabouts (but he still might fit that power budget even with the 6670 inside).

The two CPU cores at 2.5GHz each should be quite sufficient even with a more powerful graphics card before becoming a bottleneck.


Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:20:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:21:26
Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:20:53
Incarna blew up my 8800GTX so I am now running on my old NVidiot 7300 (with an extra case fan). I had to go to the graphics settings for EVE (in the NVidiot control panel) and manually change them all for performance.

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:28:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Br41n
just call the budget

HD5670 or something like that would do fine
His PSU would not be able to handle that card well. Not on top of everything else that is already running.

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:30:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:21:26
Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:20:53
Incarna blew up my 8800GTX so I am now running on my old NVidiot 7300 (with an extra case fan). I had to go to the graphics settings for EVE (in the NVidiot control panel) and manually change them all for performance.
Try hardware temperature monitoring programs like everest, speedfan, nvidia control panel temp monitor, ASUS probe, or google one. Either way, clean, monitor, and be cautious about your hardware next time.

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.08.14 03:57:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 14/08/2011 03:58:55
To be honest a 300w PSU is measly for a gaming computer, realistically you want 500w+, I'm afraid you've gone and made a pretty underpowered PC, not only that the components you get will be pretty much like the PSU really.

The components you got right there look like the CPU and the RAM, but you'll need to upgrade the other stuff.

Baraka Saibot
Posted - 2011.08.14 05:11:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Baraka Saibot on 14/08/2011 05:14:34
With that hardware, and a low end newish gfx card... and a couple fans and nothing else really. 300 W shouldn't be a problem is actually delivers what it says on the tin.

500-750 Watt is for i7 with high end gfx cards and several SATA drives and other stuff.

But, just look at the several different PSU calculators out there.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.08.14 08:15:00 - [21]
 

tbh for your specs and said 300w PSU, I think a 6770 or a 6750 would be enough.

Granted they aren't stellar cards, but they are good mid-range cards that eat next to no power, compared to their performance.

EvEa Deva
Posted - 2011.08.14 11:31:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: EvEa Deva on 14/08/2011 11:36:02
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:21:26
Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera on 14/08/2011 03:20:53
Incarna blew up my 8800GTX so I am now running on my old NVidiot 7300 (with an extra case fan). I had to go to the graphics settings for EVE (in the NVidiot control panel) and manually change them all for performance.


Yes im sure EvE exploded your 4-5 year old video card Confused

On topic; OP most people think you need a microwave power supply to run a computer and you do NOT, but just the same make sure you have the right plugs for the card you buy.


 

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