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Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.08.11 14:01:00 - [1]
 

Is it a valid combat technique to have neutral Logistics ships repping your ships so that the opposing player/corp/alliance cannot effectively fight you?

Griznatch
Gallente
Xicron Syndicate
Double Tap Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.11 14:15:00 - [2]
 

You bet your ass it is.

Strecs Moliko
Posted - 2011.08.11 15:24:00 - [3]
 

Wow... that's really chezzy and lame.

Get out of high sec imo.

Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.08.11 15:46:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Strecs Moliko
Wow... that's really chezzy and lame.

Get out of high sec imo.


Agreed. My thinking is if you want to participate, you are all in; meaning that if you want to rep someone, you get flagged and it's open season on your ass as well.

Matalino
Posted - 2011.08.11 16:02:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kraven Stark
Agreed. My thinking is if you want to participate, you are all in; meaning that if you want to rep someone, you get flagged and it's open season on your ass as well.
They do get flagged. Neutral reppers are no longer neutral once they start repping.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.11 16:07:00 - [6]
 

They're working on it.

Wylee Coyote
Posted - 2011.08.11 21:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: mxzf
They're working on it.




Raised by: Dierdra Vaal
Submission Date: 2009/05/30
Issue ID: TBA


Today's date: 2011/08/11...

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.11 21:36:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Wylee Coyote
Originally by: mxzf
They're working on it.




Raised by: Dierdra Vaal
Submission Date: 2009/05/30
Issue ID: TBA


Today's date: 2011/08/11...


It's #5 on the Crowdsourcing list. It takes a while to get anything done it seems. It ranked extremely highly (5/172) on the list of things that players want done in July though, so hopefully they'll work on it in earnest now.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.08.12 04:02:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: mxzf
Originally by: Wylee Coyote
Originally by: mxzf
They're working on it.




Raised by: Dierdra Vaal
Submission Date: 2009/05/30
Issue ID: TBA


Today's date: 2011/08/11...


It's #5 on the Crowdsourcing list. It takes a while to get anything done it seems. It ranked extremely highly (5/172) on the list of things that players want done in July though, so hopefully they'll work on it in earnest now.


of course eveunis bloc of nooby carebear scrubs got removing wardecs altogether to the fourth spot.

once they remove wardec like the whiny carebears want, neutral repping matters less.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.08.12 06:04:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
....of course eveunis bloc of nooby carebear scrubs got removing wardecs altogether to the fourth spot.

Pretty easy to determine where you are in that equation, you really should learn to hide motivations/feelings when commenting on stuff .. otherwise people might start saying "griefer tears, best tears" Laughing

Anyhoo, that Wardec proposal does not mention removal at any point, it does go on about expanding on the mechanic and making it more nuanced though ..

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.08.15 02:52:00 - [11]
 

Remote repping gives the opposing shooters aggro on the repper. If the remote reps are causing so much grief, shoot him. He'll either pop (grossing you a 150M isk killmail) or gtfo. Either way, is good for you.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.08.15 03:28:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: fgft Athonille
....of course eveunis bloc of nooby carebear scrubs got removing wardecs altogether to the fourth spot.

Pretty easy to determine where you are in that equation, you really should learn to hide motivations/feelings when commenting on stuff .. otherwise people might start saying "griefer tears, best tears" Laughing

Anyhoo, that Wardec proposal does not mention removal at any point, it does go on about expanding on the mechanic and making it more nuanced though ..


i like hard games without bull**** carebear coddling

university wants carebear hello kitty the world wide. dont be fooled they want all pvp in highsec completely removed and they will exploit to get that

see where i stand on that

BeachParty
Caldari
Semi Precious
Posted - 2011.08.15 03:49:00 - [13]
 

Had the best fight ever this weekend...Battle ships, command ships, a bunch of t3, a couple of BC's. We shot at each-other for 5 mins. and no one died. Super fun.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.08.16 00:50:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kraven Stark
Is it a valid combat technique to have neutral Logistics ships repping your ships so that the opposing player/corp/alliance cannot effectively fight you?



Is it a valid combat technique to undock three T1 fitted no prop mod drakes (including one active tanked with double Medium Shield Booster!?!?!) into three battleship and start shooting them in web range?

Potato IQ
Posted - 2011.08.16 08:10:00 - [15]
 

Neutral rep is a seriously broken mechanic used by hypoplastic scr0tum corps

The proposed aggression timer is good, but the neutrals delayed window of safety before they commit needs a greater punishment IMO

BeachParty
Caldari
Semi Precious
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:31:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: BeachParty on 16/08/2011 15:38:08
Do reps have the same aggression mechanics as Remote Sensor Boosting a war target with a neutral? It seems to me in order to get neutral logistics to pop-red on my overview I still have to be directly aggressing a ship receiving the reps?

Hwong Jian
Posted - 2011.08.16 17:56:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: BeachParty
Edited by: BeachParty on 16/08/2011 15:38:08
Do reps have the same aggression mechanics as Remote Sensor Boosting a war target with a neutral? It seems to me in order to get neutral logistics to pop-red on my overview I still have to be directly aggressing a ship receiving the reps?


This is the case. And, it is especially annoying in militia fleets, since a militia fleet is usually comprised of members of multiple corporations and we are not considered "an alliance".


 

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