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Zezman
Terra Rosa Militia
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.08 02:11:00 - [1]
 

My idea is to balance Supercaps with MOAR Supercaps, actually: Super Dreads.

The Motherships are basically ROCK

Add: Star Treks Scimitar Class ship: A Cloaking Dreadnought that can warp and FIRE while cloaked.

That makes the PAPER.

Add: Spaceballs Spaceball One Class Ship: An Interceptor Dreadnought that is as fast as (or faster than) an Interceptor.

LUDICROUS SPEED!

That makes Scissors.

So basically, the Cloaking Scimitar Class 'Nought can fire upon and destroy the fighters and then the carrier easier than the carrier can find and target the Scimitar.

The Spaceball One can zip around and find the Scimitar with advanced scanning technology, and targetless firing solutions, aka blind fire. Thus it can root out and find the slower Cloaked Scimitar and outpace its gun turrets and photon torpedoes.

The Slow but deadly Supercap Mothership can withstand a Spaceball One Dread and its fighters can web and blow it up.

Rock - Paper - Scissors.

Add these two new Super Dreadnoughts:

Scimitar - Cloaked shooter
Spaceball One - Super Fast Flanker

/puts_on_flame_******ant_clothing

Pou Tau
Posted - 2011.08.08 02:17:00 - [2]
 

Were you just watching space balls on TV too?

Zezman
Terra Rosa Militia
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.08 03:10:00 - [3]
 

I wasn't aware it was on right now.
In fact, I don't even have TV. Or Cable. Or Satellite. My old box doesn't have a digital converter.

I listen to Radio!

But back to the subject on hand.

Is it a good idea?

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.08.08 03:58:00 - [4]
 

firing while cloaked... no. Locking while cloaked we can discuss. (giving passive targeters a useful role.)

Dreads are not supers. There are already too many supers. Why make more? Fix what is broken before you make more broken things.

Your suggestions would make more broken things.

Zezman
Terra Rosa Militia
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.08 06:30:00 - [5]
 

I have an alternate suggestion for "Fire while cloaked"
Allow, as you suggest, Target while cloaked, Firing Decloaks you, and you can recloak even while being targeted.
So there leaves a space of vulnerability.

Zin Zy
Posted - 2011.08.09 13:30:00 - [6]
 

The concept is good, but think your execution is off. No need to add more ships.

Instead of adding 3 more ships, just make the current ships more paper, sissor and rock. As an example, take frigs, cruisers and bs (and assume those are the only 3 sizes of ships in the game). 1 cruisers will be able to hande a few frigs (2-3) but lose to a BS. A BS on the other hand will be able to handle a few cruisers (2-3) but be weak to a group of frigates (5-10). That way, if you want to be on the safe side, you will bring smaller ships to you fleet to protect the bigger ships.
2 ships of similar sizes have pretty much equal chance of winning.
This will not be easy in eve, as we have a lot of different ship sizes. Luckely it is almost true already.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:52:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Zin Zy
This will not be easy in eve, as we have a lot of different ship sizes. Luckely it is almost true already.


(a) frig gets thrashed by (a) dessie gets thrashed by (a) cruiser gets thrashed by (a) battle cruiser gets thrashed by (a) battleship gets thrashed by a (group of) frigs gets thrashed by... (and so on)

Caps/Supers/T2/3 mess this up a little bit.

IIRC a dread isn't so great against a BS, but it's good against other caps, and a carrier is mostly the opposite.

Zezman
Terra Rosa Militia
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.09 16:36:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Zin Zy


Instead of adding 3 more ships,

It's only two more ships.

A Super Fast Dread, and a Super Stealthy Dread.


 

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