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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.08.08 13:52:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
"They expect people to pay ABOVE PREMIUM prices for a sub premium game on life support. Ludicrious especially when cheaper PREMIUM games are comming in a few months."


that's pretty much how i see it. my whole corp quit 2 months ago and moved to another MMO. i'm just waiting out my plex time here, training random crap



Their old claim of being the worlds largest cluster for an MMO is pretty much meaningless when that universe is getting emptier over time.

Eve: The worlds emptiest universe on the worlds largest underused server.

Well, at least it will free up blades CPU's and Memory for WoD and Dust I suppose.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.08.08 14:00:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Jason1138
"They expect people to pay ABOVE PREMIUM prices for a sub premium game on life support. Ludicrious especially when cheaper PREMIUM games are comming in a few months."


that's pretty much how i see it. my whole corp quit 2 months ago and moved to another MMO. i'm just waiting out my plex time here, training random crap



Their old claim of being the worlds largest cluster for an MMO is pretty much meaningless when that universe is getting emptier over time.

Eve: The worlds emptiest universe on the worlds largest underused server.

Well, at least it will free up blades CPU's and Memory for WoD and Dust I suppose.



You know I would be worried if even a portion of that was true, but Eve's universe might have shrunk slightly (not suprising after a 7 year run) but its hardly the exados you speak of. I mean SWG, that was an exadous and even after that the game is not only still running but has an entire dedicated fan base to creating an EMU for the bloody thing.

Eve is might be slighly shrinking, but dying? Sorry, but the day when you can log into Eve and go a game session without half a dozen corps trying to stick it in you is the day I will believe that. For now its **** and pillage as always, nothing has changed but the date.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.08.08 14:29:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 08/08/2011 14:31:05
Originally by: Thornat
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Jason1138
"They expect people to pay ABOVE PREMIUM prices for a sub premium game on life support. Ludicrious especially when cheaper PREMIUM games are comming in a few months."


that's pretty much how i see it. my whole corp quit 2 months ago and moved to another MMO. i'm just waiting out my plex time here, training random crap



Their old claim of being the worlds largest cluster for an MMO is pretty much meaningless when that universe is getting emptier over time.

Eve: The worlds emptiest universe on the worlds largest underused server.

Well, at least it will free up blades CPU's and Memory for WoD and Dust I suppose.



You know I would be worried if even a portion of that was true, but Eve's universe might have shrunk slightly (not suprising after a 7 year run) but its hardly the exados you speak of. I mean SWG, that was an exadous and even after that the game is not only still running but has an entire dedicated fan base to creating an EMU for the bloody thing.

Eve is might be slighly shrinking, but dying? Sorry, but the day when you can log into Eve and go a game session without half a dozen corps trying to stick it in you is the day I will believe that. For now its **** and pillage as always, nothing has changed but the date.



Hate to break it to you but Star Wars Galaxies is shutting down.

You also forget people are just playing out their gametime and remaining ISK on PLEX, I am one of the many doing that, until Christmas 2011 MMO release fest.

Frankly the appeal of Eve died for many, myself included, knowing the road CCP are taking, why should I bother injecting new cash into it and why should I bother putting long hours and effort into it? I see no compelling reason anymore. The spirit of Eve is dead for many.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.08 14:32:00 - [34]
 

Eve will go on, eve is dying threads will go on, and CCP will release the golden bathtub in the NEX store for 1,000,000 AUR so that I may bathe in the tears of OP's for generations to come...

Maximum Kiely
Caldari
Kiely and Son Salvage
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:23:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Miilla


2011 and 2012 are big MMO years :) No reason to stay with Eve.




It's going to be a tough go for CCP, I'll give ya that Miilla.

Like others have mentioned I'm already seeing ~10K fewer people logged on during my play time. It's gone from around 40K to 30K with the odd "blip" on the weekends. I also agree with your post about local and the "spirit" diminishing. I have even noticed that in my short time playing. Fewer people are chatting in local or looking to fleet up and have some lolz together. Some of the people I used to fly with don't log in anymore.

It has reduced my enjoyment of the game a little. ugh

Red Maiden
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:33:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Miilla

Eve is dying, really, just look at your normal local, you can see it has died off, Eve has lost its appeal to lots of people now.




Hmm, strange. I've played every day for the last month, and haven't noticed this. Seems like as many people as ever are playing, regardless of whether their game time is funded by PLEX or not.

Seems like the people who quit, want to quit, or hate the game but can't quit, are the ones trying to convince everyone that EVE is dying. Perhaps it makes them feel better to believe so.

Name Family Name
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:35:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Last Star Fighter
CCP views EVE as being finished.

Thoughts?


No - I think CCP decided to abandon it in its unfinished state (like they did with all features) and squeeze out as much money as possible from the playerbase whilst they pay to beta-test the WoD engine for them.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:36:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Red Maiden
Originally by: Miilla

Eve is dying, really, just look at your normal local, you can see it has died off, Eve has lost its appeal to lots of people now.




Hmm, strange. I've played every day for the last month, and haven't noticed this. Seems like as many people as ever are playing, regardless of whether their game time is funded by PLEX or not.

Seems like the people who quit, want to quit, or hate the game but can't quit, are the ones trying to convince everyone that EVE is dying. Perhaps it makes them feel better to believe so.



Perhaps you are in an unaffected TZ or System.

It probably varies across regions and timezones but there has been a noticable drop for many.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:54:00 - [39]
 

Well EVE hasnt lost its hype/flair/wthever, but CCP have lost their willpower to keep EVE as great as it is and to tip it off after 2 years of "not-really-content" content they finally bring out "now-its-time-to-milk-the-customer" content!

Alot of ppl left not really because of what EVE has become but because of the direction it is going and what EVE IS going to become. From a customer perspective, why invest more time and resources into a product when the company promisses something and DOES something else, unlike politics, liars lose their support/credibility quickly in the business world.

I have one foot in the door myself, just waiting another year and see how things turn out after all the development focus is off of WoD and DUST514.

Also I wish expansions were paid for in EVE, I simply wouldnt buy INCARNA and keep my shipspinning hangar.

CCP, stop enforcing unwanted content while removing favourite features, seriously, fastest way to lose customers.. as u can see ur self probably.

Darke Spectre
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:10:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
Edited by: Tom Gerard on 08/08/2011 02:03:54

Originally by: Lord Viziam

lol.. more like "IGNORED". Never to be seen on the forum again except by noobs.


IIRC the terminology is BLOCKED, and if people don't care about my opinions they shouldn't be forced to hear them. At least it will be the end of the "Tom Gerard is a Troll!" accusations.

I've never said that. I don't have any problems...

Darke Spectre
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:43:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Darke Spectre on 08/08/2011 22:44:45
Originally by: Miilla
The spirit of Eve is dead for many.


Rolling EyesRolling EyesRolling Eyes

Melodramatic idiocy, what a joke... It's a game is all, not a religious experience...

Newt Rondanse
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:48:00 - [42]
 

All games have turnover. Old players get tired of playing, and new players come in.

Forums tend to be heavily weighted to jaded old players, some portion of which will always be disgusted by this or that new development.

In short: Eve isn't on the downslope yet, it just has a really bad case of dandruff.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:51:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Newt Rondanse
All games have turnover. Old players get tired of playing, and new players come in.

Forums tend to be heavily weighted to jaded old players, some portion of which will always be disgusted by this or that new development.

In short: Eve isn't on the downslope yet, it just has a really bad case of dandruff.


You know this isnt the case here right now.. If old players lose interest they simply quit for a year or 2.

What is really going on is that CCP made a radical decision and now want MT and all the other evils they promissed we would never see.

Ylode
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:24:00 - [44]
 

There is no Eve. There is only Super Carriers online - and that game is pretty damn boring.

Gevlin
Minmatar
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:32:00 - [45]
 

the last 2 years eve has be diversifying - PI, eve gate, incarna - expanding the size of the sandbox. Not just adding Toys, like ships, to play with.

Eve over the last 2 years especially the last one has been focusing on fixing bug, rewriting code into Carbon.

To the sounds of it Carbon is finishing up and soon we well see another expansion of shiny new ships like T3 Frigates. Probably in the next year or so.

Due to Eve switching to gradual releases vs the 2 Mega releases we don't see a massive shock of new stuff coming in. So it is perceived as dying where it is stronger than it has ever been.

Laser Purification
Posted - 2011.08.09 01:26:00 - [46]
 


"Carbon" is basically re-packaging Eve code for use in other games.

It's too early to know if Eve is in legacy mode. We'll find out when Dust/WoD are out. If those or new titles remain the focus then yes, if it was just those games sucking up development resources and CCP returns to Eve seriously then no. It could go either way at the moment, and how successful Dust and WoD are will have a bearing.

Gevlin
Minmatar
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2011.08.09 02:12:00 - [47]
 

Carbon is the modularizing of Eve code to allow the seamless integration of features. which can mean export but also import from other Games like WOD and dust 514. This means Eve is finishing its skill points training so we will see an acceleration of Incarna as stuff is stolen from WOD which is focused around the Incarna expansion.

Gevlin
Minmatar
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2011.08.09 02:16:00 - [48]
 

Eve is just getting to big after 14 Expansions eve is so big that every expansion does not seem as large as it is a little expansion in several different catagories


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