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MasterEnt
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:13:00 - [1]
 

Why the hell are half the empire POS offline or just sitting there taking up space.Is this a thing? Am I supposed to contact the owner and buy the space?

Cant really take my cap fleet into .5 and wipe it out. Is there another mechanic.. and if not... why is this allowed for more than a month?

Jack Tronic
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:15:00 - [2]
 

Yes there is a mechanic, war dec the owning corporation and go bash it with subcaps.

Morganta
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:15:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
Why the hell are half the empire POS offline or just sitting there taking up space.Is this a thing? Am I supposed to contact the owner and buy the space?

Cant really take my cap fleet into .5 and wipe it out. Is there another mechanic.. and if not... why is this allowed for more than a month?



wardec?

blow up pos clean out hangar?

lots of reasons to kill it

Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:15:00 - [4]
 

Any corp that just leaves stuff floating around like that is probably inactive, so just Wardec them and destroy the offline POS.

MasterEnt
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:17:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: MasterEnt on 07/08/2011 16:18:00
Just thought of that as I hit POST, but it would be cool if after a month, we could use some other cheaper mechanic.

Especially in .5 where i cant bring in the caps... LAME.

Jack Tronic
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:19:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
Edited by: MasterEnt on 07/08/2011 16:18:00
Just thought of that as I hit POST, but it would be cool if after a month, we could use some other cheaper mechanic.

Especially in .5 where i cant bring in the caps... LAME.


Stop being a spoiled brat.

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:20:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
Edited by: MasterEnt on 07/08/2011 16:18:00
Just thought of that as I hit POST, but it would be cool if after a month, we could use some other cheaper mechanic.

Especially in .5 where i cant bring in the caps... LAME.



ffs don't be a SC whowar
use BSs like the rest of us

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:21:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
Am I supposed to contact the owner and buy the space?
Sure. Why not?

If you don't want to blow it up, and don't want to pay for it, you're out of luck. Welcome to the world of scarce resources.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:22:00 - [9]
 

What's so difficult parking a abaddon next to the pos and afk fire until the tower pops? They don't have shield active and don't go into reinforced, now do they?

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:23:00 - [10]
 

mega pulse/sentry geddons are like the energizer bunny :P

mkint
Posted - 2011.08.07 16:33:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: mkint on 07/08/2011 16:33:31
I used to keep my POS in a 0.5 system. There was only 1 empty moon when I put it up. I only kept it online when I needed to run jobs, otherwise it was an empty offline tower so I wouldn't lose my spot. The system was a minor mission and trade hub, but the only trade hub for it's region, and some neighboring NPC null, and keeping my POS up there was a convenience issue.) Near the end of my time living in that area a POS cleanup corp mailed me warning they were gonna wardec me for the moon space. Since I didn't want to do a POS defense with my 1-man alt corp, I went ahead and pulled the tower down.

Later I had moved to a far distant region. I found a 0.5 sec system that was convenient to trade hubs, mission hubs, and lowsec where only about half the moons were used. I picked one that looked awesome visually, set up the tower and my bookmarks, ran my jobs, and pulled the tower down altogether. I didn't want to have to keep an eye on that character for wardec mails, or threat mails. After that point, any time I needed to put up the tower again, that moon has been empty. Every single time.

0.5 isn't crowded by default. Your ability to find a quiet system is the problem.

Winston McQuin
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:27:00 - [12]
 

Does a cargo scanner work on the corp hanger? Or ship hanger array. To see if it's worth the war dec.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:27:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Xercodo
mega pulse/sentry geddons are like the energizer bunny :P


I'm sure there's a way to fit together a cap stable Abaddon with a full rack of Tachs and triple heatsinks. Won't have a tank at all, but you don't need one of those against an inactive empire corp.

Morganta
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:30:00 - [14]
 

heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad

Prince Kobol
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:25:00 - [15]
 

I wouldn't worry about it, when CCP remove all the ice out of high sec and don't change the number of available research slots, the price of ice will be so high that very few corps will be able afford to put up a pos :)

JC Ferguson
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:42:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Morganta
heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad


You're stupid.

Anyway, on-topic, geddons are indeed the way to go. AFAIK I'm the only person to solo a large POS with a sub-cap and I used a geddon.

Serene Repose
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:48:00 - [17]
 

Yeah. Put really big guns on a BS. The really big kind. Really REALLY big...guns...what was the question?



Morganta
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:20:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Morganta
heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad


You're stupid.



I might be now that you mention it, for some reason several people I know believe that syncs are out of the game now. I'm reading patch notes but don't see any mention.

Where the hell did that rumor come from???

JC Ferguson
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:26:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Morganta
Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Morganta
heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad


You're stupid.



I might be now that you mention it, for some reason several people I know believe that syncs are out of the game now. I'm reading patch notes but don't see any mention.

Where the hell did that rumor come from???



Might be? You obviously can't distinguish between the damage mod for lasers (which is what was mentioned here) and a (often offline/non-functional) mod used to reduce overheat damage (which wasn't, and which no longer works better than an empty slot.)

Morganta
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:51:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Morganta
Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Morganta
heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad


You're stupid.



I might be now that you mention it, for some reason several people I know believe that syncs are out of the game now. I'm reading patch notes but don't see any mention.

Where the hell did that rumor come from???



Might be? You obviously can't distinguish between the damage mod for lasers (which is what was mentioned here) and a (often offline/non-functional) mod used to reduce overheat damage (which wasn't, and which no longer works better than an empty slot.)


I don't lazor

Issaries Valran
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.07 21:32:00 - [21]
 

A long while ago, CCP was talking to the community about this sort of thing. And a hacking mechanic was talked about a lot. That would allow people with the right skills and the right equipment to hack abandon towers and steal them make them their own and take everything that was left there.

Of course CCP with its A.D.D. Forgot about this like many many other things.

I still think a tower hacking stealing mechanic would be in line with how EvE works. As long as it was done right, was not something to easy to do required some sort of isk and skill investment to hack and steal towers. And to some time to do.

mkint
Posted - 2011.08.08 00:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Issaries Valran
A long while ago, CCP was talking to the community about this sort of thing. And a hacking mechanic was talked about a lot. That would allow people with the right skills and the right equipment to hack abandon towers and steal them make them their own and take everything that was left there.

Of course CCP with its A.D.D. Forgot about this like many many other things.

I still think a tower hacking stealing mechanic would be in line with how EvE works. As long as it was done right, was not something to easy to do required some sort of isk and skill investment to hack and steal towers. And to some time to do.


POSes need a rework more than any other mechanic in EVE. They were built broken. POSes need a rework more than Gallente need rebalancing (I even fly Gallente almost exclusively), and more than we need any more lame, ill advised w***e st0re stuff or space-barbie. Until CCP decides the actual game is more important than trying to polish a turd, we won't see vital game systems reworked.

However, since we're fantasizing about what won't ever happen, if adding a POS stealing mechanic was an option, I'd have it include the boring/tedious stuff that's easy to implement like hacking and skills, but I'd also have a layer of it that involves some kind of user created puzzle (like a safe-cracking mini game). Making the security against theft the player's responsibility would be appropriate for EVE.

Shaemell Buttleson
Posted - 2011.08.08 00:44:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Morganta
heat-syncs were removed from the game a few patches ago Crying or Very sad


You're stupid.

Anyway, on-topic, geddons are indeed the way to go. AFAIK I'm the only person to solo a large POS with a sub-cap and I used a geddon.



I'm pretty sure a guy from Hydra did it a while back and he used a geddon also.



 

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