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Satallius
Posted - 2011.08.04 22:54:00 - [1]
 

should a solo pilgrim meant for hunting belt ratters in low sec use 2 neuts and a nos, or 3 neuts?

Warlord Shat
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Posted - 2011.08.04 23:23:00 - [2]
 

Do you have a Cap Booster, if so then No need for NOS

Nomad Vherokic
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.05 02:27:00 - [3]
 

Cloak, Medium Neut, Small Neut, Medium Nos

or

Cloak, Medium Neut, Medium Neut, Small Nos

or

Cloak Medium Neut, Medium Neut, Small Neut with a Cap booster.

Personally, I prefer no cap booster using a Medium Nos, but they all work well. Having a cap booster means you lose a TD (if you fit 2)...


Donot Killmeh
Posted - 2011.08.05 05:49:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:52:29
Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:49:17
Well there is no only one right answer. But Cap booster is what you need, nos doesnt help you at all after first cycle, since it only works if target has more cap than you. So....

Extended probelauncher - combat probesss
cov-ops cloak
2 med neuts

win

Dont fly it if not recons V.


[Pilgrim, Probe Pilgrim]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

Captain Sage
Hole Spectors
E.Y
Posted - 2011.08.05 08:19:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Captain Sage on 05/08/2011 08:21:14
Originally by: Donot Killmeh
Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:52:29
Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:49:17
Well there is no only one right answer. But Cap booster is what you need, nos doesnt help you at all after first cycle, since it only works if target has more cap than you. So....

Extended probelauncher - combat probesss
cov-ops cloak
2 med neuts

win

Dont fly it if not recons V.


[Pilgrim, Probe Pilgrim]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5



Hmm, not sure about this fit? Why use a Overdrive when you only have a AB? The speed it adds really wont be noticeable surely? Cant you fit more resists? Or if you have run out of PG/CPU wouldnt a nano be better?

EDIT: Just noticed the rigs as well......they wont help, your resists wont be high enough for the little extra that repper gives you to matter.

illirdor
Gallente
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.08.05 13:16:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Captain Sage
Edited by: Captain Sage on 05/08/2011 08:21:14
Originally by: Donot Killmeh
Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:52:29
Edited by: Donot Killmeh on 05/08/2011 05:49:17
Well there is no only one right answer. But Cap booster is what you need, nos doesnt help you at all after first cycle, since it only works if target has more cap than you. So....

Extended probelauncher - combat probesss
cov-ops cloak
2 med neuts

win

Dont fly it if not recons V.


[Pilgrim, Probe Pilgrim]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Overdrive Injector System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5



Hmm, not sure about this fit? Why use a Overdrive when you only have a AB? The speed it adds really wont be noticeable surely? Cant you fit more resists? Or if you have run out of PG/CPU wouldnt a nano be better?

EDIT: Just noticed the rigs as well......they wont help, your resists wont be high enough for the little extra that repper gives you to matter.


yea i would rather drop the repper and put some resist and a 1600 mm plate in lows and som cap rigs :)

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.08.05 14:14:00 - [7]
 

3x medium neuts, 800 plate + MAR have been working for me pretty well with a cap injector. It's an older setup that was apparently the norm before 2x medium neuts, small neut, and 1600 plate I guess. I'm notoriously cheap with my ship fittings but this is one that I'll shell out on for a faction afterburner and scrambler. They help quite a bit.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2011.08.06 08:33:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Feng Schui on 06/08/2011 08:49:29

med neut, med neut, med nos, cloak
cap booster, web, disruptor, td, ab (or cap booster, disruptor, 2x td's, mwd)
med armor rep, 800 plate, 2x eanm, dc <---- can change the eanm's to specific hardeners if you know damage types used
thermal resist rig, powergrid rig

this should get all of your resists up to 71% or better, with the ability to engage 2+ targets, but you'll need recon 5 and all fitting skills to level 5

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2011.08.06 13:28:00 - [9]
 

The aim is to cap your target out, there wont be anything left for a nos to steal.

Nomad Vherokic
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.06 14:06:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:15:25
Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:14:05
Originally by: Khors
The aim is to cap your target out, there wont be anything left for a nos to steal.


Unless they are cap boosting, or you are engaging 2 targets...

+ Buffer fit is the way to go, in most cases once you have capped out, TD'd, web'd, and scram'd the target the only use for a repper is for after fight use, fitting an extra resist or larger plate is usually going to be more worthwhile in my experience.

You can't fit 3 medium neuts, cap booster, AND a 1600 plate, unless you add an ACR rig. If you want to go the 3 Medium Neuts route then you need an 800 plate.

Andy Landen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.06 14:09:00 - [11]
 

This ->

[Pilgrim, EVEMon Pilgrimme - 3 Neuts]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Hammerhead II x1

If it hurts or points you, neut it. Problem solved. Swap scram for disruptor, if you like.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2011.08.07 03:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:15:25
Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:14:05
Originally by: Khors
The aim is to cap your target out, there wont be anything left for a nos to steal.


Unless they are cap boosting, or you are engaging 2 targets...




Or if you're engaging a passive shield user, ie: Drake

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:18:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:15:25
Edited by: Nomad Vherokic on 06/08/2011 14:14:05
Originally by: Khors
The aim is to cap your target out, there wont be anything left for a nos to steal.


Unless they are cap boosting, or you are engaging 2 targets...



Yeah, but luckily, belt ratters, as the op was saying, will most likely not be using cap boosters. And if they are flying in pair, it's also very likely the other guy will just leg it (my experience when in pilgrim ganking ratters).

Thus: nos is not going to be much help.


 

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