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Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.08.02 17:38:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 02/08/2011 17:40:18
Originally by: Ellianna Angel
Originally by: Serpents smile
Yep very immersive. You dock, magicaly appear straight out of your pod, pod goo is washed off, you even had time to slip into some new or old cloths, yet when you try to switch ships you get a message that you have to wait cause you're still docking.

Wait, what? Shocked



Hi, there is good news about this for all those who didn't already know.

The session change timer for changing ships has been removed (or rather will be removed - it's on Singularity at the moment and is confirmed for TQ)


That's good to hear.

Of course it's not like anything much has changed from the old system. The session change timer has always been there, and makes no more or less sense from an "immersion" point of view than it did getting that same message while ship spinning.

Pehaps all they need to do is change the message to "One moment, your ship is being prepped for launch", or "One moment while we compute your merge into the undock pattern".

Not so hard.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.02 17:41:00 - [32]
 

This is that you change ships all you want in station, but you still have to wait thirty seconds to undock again, right?

Cuz the whole reason for the timer is to prevent exploits, i.e. people playing outside station, they deaggress, dock, immediately undock in another ship, continue fighting instantly.

I am all for being able to swap ships endlessly in station itself while a single 'dock/undock' timer is ticking away, but being able to instantly dock/undock in ship after ship? Thought CCP did away with this years ago because people abused it.


Trig Onami
Caldari
Onami Corporation
Posted - 2011.08.02 17:51:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Kirkland Langue
This is a good thread. Obviously OP is trolling you guys and is just waiting for a good opportunity to pull the rug out from under the likes of Epeen.

There is no chance one could call the current Incarna a step towards more immersion. While there is potential, EVE has always had incredible potential. Other examples of systems that had great potential, and I guess still do:

PI
FW
Bounties


I'm looking forward to the day when EVE actually puts the effort into developing these systems to unlock their potential, giving me a reason to resubscribe.


They said that they will re-visit all the old game mechanics in the game eventually. That takes time. The "steps" toward more immersion are being implemented. Just not as fast as you wish they were. Without patience, you will never be happy. But I see you're happy to call everyone that posts anything positive on the forums a troll, except for the butthurt whiners, such as yourself.

The game is time based, yet you can't wait.
The game is improving, yet you can't see.
The game is optional, yet you feel obliged to stick around and cry up to the very last minute.

When you consider coming back in December, let's hope you read as much of the forums as you can PRIOR to re-subbing. I have a feeling you won't see a smidge of what you want until 2013. Even then, read the forums again, as your wish may not be 100% implemented to your exact specs.

Positive trolls gonna take over all ur poasts.


Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.02 18:41:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Razin on 02/08/2011 18:42:10
Originally by: Mendolus

I do not agree that pointing out mismatched or outdated text prompts is a sure sign that CCP missed the ball on the entire CQ experience itself.

Mismatched text prompts all by themselves is not, I agree. However, when taken together with the overall implementation and CCP Zulu's claims that immersion and seamlessness were CCP's foremost considerations, it certainly is one of the signs.

I think we pretty much agree on the rest.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.02 19:24:00 - [35]
 

John Carpenters "In the Mouth of Madness" comes to mind.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.02 20:07:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 02/08/2011 18:42:10
Originally by: Mendolus

I do not agree that pointing out mismatched or outdated text prompts is a sure sign that CCP missed the ball on the entire CQ experience itself.

Mismatched text prompts all by themselves is not, I agree. However, when taken together with the overall implementation and CCP Zulu's claims that immersion and seamlessness were CCP's foremost considerations, it certainly is one of the signs.

I think we pretty much agree on the rest.


LOL true, it is kind of strange that they spent roughly what... five years on this project, and no one had the wherewithal to remember to change the messages about session timers while in station, etc. I guess I just chalk it up to the same reason that I was more shocked when they fixed and included T2 ship classes in the information window at long last. Hell I pretty much had assumed that would literally never get fixed.

It is certainly a point to consider, I was just a little curious at the poster that made it seem like it was THE final straw or something, which is kind of comical when you think about someone nerdraging and hulking out over the last straw being a session timer warning talking about still docking their ship when they are rolling around in their leather bra and panties in their private quarters.

Laughing

Epic DaSoto
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:04:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Serpents smile
Yep very immersive. You dock, magicaly appear straight out of your pod, pod goo is washed off, you even had time to slip into some new or old cloths, yet when you try to switch ships you get a message that you have to wait cause you're still docking.

Wait, what? Shocked



I agree to a certain point. It ****es me off that you have implants rather than something like "Trained and competent crew points" Rather than having to loose Halo Alpha implant, how about a 25 year Operations specialist Master Chief.

The explanation on how you can see your ship is also a bit silly.

Still, I want the immersion - the more the better.

EVE is the closest thing to being in a Stanley Kubrick film. The insane love hate relationship of Eve's cult following is just extra gravy.


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