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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 16:11:00 - [1]
 

Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.

We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!

Looking forward to it,

Sec

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:11:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Llambda on 31/07/2011 17:11:39
Nobody cares about your petty ****-waving. Try CAOD.


Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:13:00 - [3]
 

It is a fair fight. One possible scenario is that the BCs drop like rocks under fire from 18 cruisers (they will), and then the remaining HACs have to square off alone against the remaining cruiser fleet. The mortality rate among the HACs will be high. End result, BC/HAC fleet defeats cruiser fleet but at a much higher ISK loss to their own side. If the FCing sucks on the BC/HAC side it's not inconceivable that they'd lose the fight completely.

Your mistake was thinking people want to fight fair. ugh

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:19:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01
If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:34:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.

We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!

Looking forward to it,

Sec


I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. Laughing

It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)

Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Rolling Eyes

Learn 2 count..

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:44:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:47:22

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.

We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!

Looking forward to it,

Sec



I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. Laughing

It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)

Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Rolling Eyes

Learn 2 count..



There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics.

This is not even counting the fact that 2 Canes alone have the DPS of 6 Ruptures by themselves and the EHP of 4 ruptures (at least.)

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:47:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:44:12
Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.

We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!

Looking forward to it,

Sec



I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. Laughing

It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)

Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Rolling Eyes

Learn 2 count..



There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics.


If you are talking about last night in F7C then this is all we had other than the 2 ceptors..

http://bdeal.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38811

We killed your bait Myrm & tried to kill the Drake but you guys spiked local with 15 or 20 so we ran away.. Think you guys caught a Vaga & Drake or something.

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:48:00 - [8]
 

We had no bait myrm or drake. ;)

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.31 17:57:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 18:04:24

Originally by: Securitas Protector
We had no bait myrm or drake. ;)


oh nm that was Bdeal that came in shortly after you guys with 15 or so BC's.. Well, regardless you can look and see what we had. There sure wasn't any Lach's nor did we have 15 BC's.

This is all we had at the peak of that lil gang last night.. (9 ships 5 of which were BC's and no logi) It was likely less than that by the time you guys rolled through, because we had 1 or 2 guys leave early on.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13922634

edit, I take it back we had a Lach early on but he was 1st guy to leave and was gone long b4 you guys showed up. I assume your scout didn't keep accurate numbers count as time progressed, because we bled off a few guys pretty early on.

WHYWAT4
Posted - 2011.07.31 18:01:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01
If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.


What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 18:06:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 18:11:25
Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01
If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.


What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?


Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.31 18:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01
If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.


What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?


Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.


We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's.

The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise..

Not such a very GF for our side. Razz

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 18:37:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01
If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.


What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?


Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.


We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's.

The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise..

Not such a very GF for our side. Razz


v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds.

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.31 19:03:00 - [14]
 

Leroy Jenkins is ashamed.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.31 20:02:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 20:35:07

v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds.


It's easy to disagree when you out number the other side 2 to 1, but I assume you still somehow mange to think we had 15 BC's/Hac's & logistics. Anyway go post on some more forums (EVE-O & Kug aren't enough) about how 15 BC's with logistic support (ie 5 BC 1 Hac 1 Recon 2 ceptors with no logistics) ran from your 18 man cruiser gang and the Rook was rainbow fit, not set up with a full rack of Minmatar jammers just to counter your specific gang. Rolling Eyes

This was everything we killed or lost over the course of being in that system. By the time you guys showed up the Lach had already left (not that a lach would make any difference) as well as 1 of the Drakes.

http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10275309

Obviously we must of made 10 BC/Hac's + logistics sit in a safe and not ***** on any KM's just to prove a point for future forum arguments. Rolling Eyes

Don't worry though we managed to get blobbed to hell by BDeal anyway.

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 22:47:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 22:54:45
Originally by: Mutnin


Don't worry though we managed to get blobbed to hell by BDeal anyway.


Whoa, whoa. Calm down. No need to be so aggressive. :) We're all friends here.

Also, we got blobbed by BDEAL too: http://calliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10274989

We engaged almost 4:1. :P Your turn. I practice what I preach. I think EVE needs more fights. Honestly I'm not so frustrated at specifically this incident as at the fact that it is extremely hard to get fights of any kind lately.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.31 23:08:00 - [17]
 

But Sec, by now everyone now knows about your elitepvp ruptures. You're going to have to bring out the ferox fleet for gudfites. Wink

Rer Eirikr
Gallente
Clearly Compensating
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 23:10:00 - [18]
 

You had a gate ****caged.

We jumped in, started pewing.

You ran, we got sad.

PvP happe... wait no, no, we just sat there hoping something would happen.

Will you engage our Ferox roams? I mean seriously, we purposely fly **** on the basis that *maybe* someone will actually want to PvP in EVE.

Obviously I should just go back to playing SOMER Blink.

GoldenDawn
Amarr
Clearly Compensating
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 23:15:00 - [19]
 

I was sitting there, in a ship that i hate (minmitar.) i said 1 vs 1 F**got. No response.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

T' Elk
Minmatar
Clearly Compensating
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.31 23:18:00 - [20]
 

Yo concordiat is such a bad alliance, im lookin for a new corp pm me

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.31 23:46:00 - [21]
 

Rail moa roams, calling it now.

nemississ
Clearly Compensating
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.01 01:22:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54
I was not there but i think its funny that one would form a gang go out in said gang in aparantly ships none of them could afford to lose to pvp and the first gang that came along with comparable numbers..... they ran sounds like some carebears pretending to be pvpers to me mabe you shoudl STFU take the call out for being terrible and sit the **** down.

If your going out to pvp... actually pvp or dont waste your time go back to your ****ty little missions and your RP channels its not worth your time since your clearly not looking for a fight fair or otherwise any decent pvper would take a mixed fleet heavy on the t2 side vs a t1 cruiser fleet if they are actually looking to pvp and not just roam around get a couple easy ganks and go home if thats what you want sweet but dont come in here defending yourself when you get called out for being a ***** ass ***got kthx.

Also if the cost of your ship is a factor in whether or not you engage a target or enemy fleet dont fly it get into a rifter or again go back to your ****ty missions and RP channels and stfu.

Fly what you can afford nubs.

ps your all ****ing terrible

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.08.01 02:59:00 - [23]
 

This is truly an enlightening and intelligent read. Thank you all for your opinions. It's these kind of groundbreaking conversations across different backgrounds and fields of expertise that makes the internet so valuable.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.08.01 04:49:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: nemississ
Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54
I was not there but i think


I quoted the important part.. See that's what's wrong, even the guys from your alliance that were there don't seem to have much of a clue so how could you. Laughing

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.08.01 07:51:00 - [25]
 

Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.

More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.08.01 07:56:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 01/08/2011 07:58:15
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.


why yes, diat, with avg member having 12m sp is known for brutal hotdrops and using neutral rr alts in nullsec.

do you ever wonder what life would be like if your mother hadn't drank so much when she was pregnant?

Securitas Protector
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.01 07:58:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Securitas Protector on 01/08/2011 07:59:12
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.

More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.


We were in 0.0 so no GCC, HTH.

Also LMAO at us having a reputation for other than dying horribly.

Midori Tsu
The Concordiat
Posted - 2011.08.01 08:04:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.

More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.


this post made my day, because you obviously have no ****ing clue what you are talking about.

Eian
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.01 09:52:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Securitas Protector
Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.

We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!

Looking forward to it,

Sec


Ouh Mah goawd. Pvpees didn't happen. Of to the internet to ***** about it.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.08.01 17:13:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.

More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.


Hahahaha, you're so ignorant.


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