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Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.29 16:02:00 - [1]
 

I believe we can expect a 'nerf' or fundamental change to w-space in the 'winter expansion'.

The reason I believe this will occur is two fold:

Firstly the current CSM (null sec focused) has a vested interest in seeing the comparative wealth of null sec increase against that of w-space. This could be achieved through the reduction of ABC minerals or by adjusting the drop rates of key T3 materials.

Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations and therefore no Incarna or CQ facilities. This in essence represents a lost revenue source for CCP as these players are much less likely to purchase vanity items (as they have no function).

C.

Takamori Maruyama
Amarr
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.07.29 16:03:00 - [2]
 

or they could expand Incarna with animated player portraits, cockpit vision etc etc.
So no need to nerf wormholes, if they use 1 of their braincells

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.29 16:05:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Cailais
I believe we can expect a 'nerf' or fundamental change to w-space in the 'winter expansion'.

The reason I believe this will occur is two fold:

Firstly the current CSM (null sec focused) has a vested interest in seeing the comparative wealth of null sec increase against that of w-space. This could be achieved through the reduction of ABC minerals or by adjusting the drop rates of key T3 materials.

Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations and therefore no Incarna or CQ facilities. This in essence represents a lost revenue source for CCP as these players are much less likely to purchase vanity items (as they have no function).

C.



Prolly will be a shift in income soon. They talked about removing ABC, but boosters will be hot when they revamp them and introduce the new smuggling. Less mining, more drugs.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 16:05:00 - [4]
 

i also hear they're going to get rid of space ships, because they dont have CQ features.

Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:06:00 - [5]
 

Damn right we have no Incarna features in wspace and we like it. We even still have ship spinning, yep, sit at pos and spin your heart out.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:19:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 29/07/2011 17:22:36
Originally by: Cailais

Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations and therefore no Incarna or CQ facilities. This in essence represents a lost revenue source for CCP as these players are much less likely to purchase vanity items (as they have no function).

C.



You are operating under the assumption that since the release of the vanity items, CCP's marketing strategy completly changed, its main focus being the selling of said items.

You, along with the other people, are a moron.

edit: so I explain why I am calling you a moron. CCP's main goal is and will be for ages to come to keep a steady income via subscriptions. The selling of even thousands of monocles does not yeld a higher profit in the long run. It's just some "extra" income that every gaming company tends to try and earn nowadays. So the main concern of CCP still, as unbelievable as this sounds, is making the players happy and keeping them in-game. They will never nerf wormholes to the extent where people who play only for this part of EvE might actually get fed up and quit.

Stop speculating, do you have so much free time on your hands?!

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:26:00 - [7]
 

CCP surely take all pros and cons into consideration before needing a non-pro?

Mar Lee
An Army of None
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:32:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Pyth2
Damn right we have no Incarna features in wspace and we like it. We even still have ship spinning, yep, sit at pos and spin your heart out.


Seriously?

Because I'd be willing to put up a small highsec POS in my mission running area just to ship spin again :)

Snyderm
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:49:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Snyderm on 29/07/2011 17:50:26
The rhetoric on this thread doesn't quite match reality. CCP just got done nerfing income earning in 0.0. Havens and sanctums, the bread and butter of a lot of eve players just got nerfed.

So it is rather incorrect to be saying CCP is all about catering to 0.0 income. The new risk/versus reward changes in 0.0 that are coming are unlikely to be simply a boost to 0.0 earnings for this reason.

Its difficult to believe they would be all about nerfing income in 0.0 and then 3 months later be all about boosting it.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 18:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Snyderm
Edited by: Snyderm on 29/07/2011 17:50:26
The rhetoric on this thread doesn't quite match reality.


This so does not mean what you think it does. People should stop using big words in fail context.

Snyderm
Posted - 2011.07.29 18:18:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Snyderm on 29/07/2011 18:41:22
Obviously I meant the first one. Nice troll though.

rhet·o·ric   /ˈrɛtərɪk/ Show Spelled
[ret-er-ik] Show IPA

–noun
1. (in writing or speech) the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast.
2. the art or science of all specialized literary uses of language in prose or verse, including the figures of speech.
3. the study of the effective use of language.

Using this phrase means that someone is claiming something, but what they are doing deosn't match their words. Can we get back to wormholes instead of trolling?

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 18:47:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Snyderm
Using this phrase means that someone is claiming something, but what they are doing deosn't match their words.


I smiled for a sec but then i just felt sad for you.

Dictionary.com is the most correct and flawless source of info. Same as Wikipedia.

Try again.

Kalin Trose
Posted - 2011.07.29 19:06:00 - [13]
 

I think WH space should actually be buffed a bit, I mean yeah its good as it is but I think there should be some form of mechanic to allow people with a POS to claim the area and have a form of structure to tell you people are around cloaked or not.

If CCP didn't mean for eve citizens to be in W space much or live there then they shouldn't have introduced it. If they nerf WHs then T3 prices will soar dramatically due to the price of nanos etc rising through the roof. ABCs should stay in WHs because it makes no sense to not have them.

Id like to speak about the 0.0 people now, You play in the richest place in eve and your getting evermore greedy which I think should stop.

You seem to want all the best bits of the game for yourself which is utterly wrong. Also W space is alot more dangerous than 0.0 so I think W space should not be nerfed.

Snyderm
Posted - 2011.07.29 19:26:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Snyderm
Using this phrase means that someone is claiming something, but what they are doing deosn't match their words.


I smiled for a sec but then i just felt sad for you.

Dictionary.com is the most correct and flawless source of info. Same as Wikipedia.

Try again.


You see, this is why I never really want to quit eve. The player base is made up of such highly dedicated trolls! you just don't find this level of commitment forom other online communities!

Here he is just waiting for me to make another post... Hoping for the rage! Oh, the anticipation!

I was trying to point out that this thread is just a troll trying to anger 0.0 inhabitants by claiming ccp just loves them to death! Of course then I got hit with another unrelated troll just trying to do that!

I just don't think that people are going to leave this game. Because despite whatever ccp decides to nerf, EVE simply has the best and most dedicated community there is. So after they nerf wormholes, you might as well just do more wormholes.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.30 11:10:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Snyderm
Of course then I got hit with another unrelated troll just trying to do that!



Critical Hit!

Ineka
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.30 11:18:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Cailais
I believe we can expect a 'nerf' or fundamental change to w-space in the 'winter expansion'.

The reason I believe this will occur is two fold:

Firstly the current CSM (null sec focused) has a vested interest in seeing the comparative wealth of null sec increase against that of w-space. This could be achieved through the reduction of ABC minerals or by adjusting the drop rates of key T3 materials.

Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations and therefore no Incarna or CQ facilities. This in essence represents a lost revenue source for CCP as these players are much less likely to purchase vanity items (as they have no function).

C.



Are you sure of what you're just say'in?


CCP Soundwave quote : >> I’m not a big fan of putting more systems into EVE. I think EVE is a deeply social game, and diluting system population won’t benefit the game really. If anything, I’d like every system have be inhabited by a few people, especially in known space. Exploration content like Wormholes on the other hand, that rely on venturing into the unknown could potentially be expanded.<<

Here, read it.

Ysa Behl
Posted - 2011.07.30 11:24:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Cailais


Firstly the current CSM (null sec focused) has a vested interest




If this happened then it would be eerily similar to real life, with powerful corporations lobbying governments to change policy so that policy becomes more beneficial to those corporations... Honestly if CCP actually wanted to made 0.0 more lucrative they could do so without breaking w-space. Just add more belts/ABC roids to null instead of "taking away".

For myself I don't see a need for a w-space nerf. W-space is not easy at all to live in - it's a logistics nightmare since you never know where you will be linked to next. You can't plan ahead. I advocate leaving it alone.

Originally by: Cailais


Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations



This argument has a few flaws:

1) Players have to leave w-space regularly, because there is no ice in w-space.
2) Players living in w-space with no local rarely meet others (unless it's to kill them) so who are they going to show off their monocles to? I would argue that these hermit-like players are not nor were they ever part of the target demographic anyway.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.07.30 13:32:00 - [18]
 

Who cares, EVE is dead anyway.

(Unless the CCP management takes a 180 degree turn)

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.07.30 13:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
i also hear they're going to get rid of space ships, because they dont have CQ features.



I would not be suprised.

Hikaru Kuroda
Amarr
Shimai of New Eden
N E X O
Posted - 2011.07.30 13:56:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Cailais
Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations and therefore no Incarna or CQ facilities. This in essence represents a lost revenue source for CCP as these players are much less likely to purchase vanity items (as they have no function).


Easy solution:

Fix the whole POS system (modular starbases), they look and work like a wip alpha version of the alliance outposts. Make dockable, because they're large enough to host thousand of people in.

Now CCP you can sell as much NeX things as you want even in W-Space.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.30 14:34:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Ysa Behl
Originally by: Cailais


Firstly the current CSM (null sec focused) has a vested interest




If this happened then it would be eerily similar to real life, with powerful corporations lobbying governments to change policy so that policy becomes more beneficial to those corporations... Honestly if CCP actually wanted to made 0.0 more lucrative they could do so without breaking w-space. Just add more belts/ABC roids to null instead of "taking away".

For myself I don't see a need for a w-space nerf. W-space is not easy at all to live in - it's a logistics nightmare since you never know where you will be linked to next. You can't plan ahead. I advocate leaving it alone.

Originally by: Cailais


Secondly CCP has a vested interest in having players leave w-space which has no stations



This argument has a few flaws:

1) Players have to leave w-space regularly, because there is no ice in w-space.
2) Players living in w-space with no local rarely meet others (unless it's to kill them) so who are they going to show off their monocles to? I would argue that these hermit-like players are not nor were they ever part of the target demographic anyway.


Nah we got monocles up in W-space thun. A pilot need to get his bling on whereva'.

Eyezpiddydafooh
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.30 14:46:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Snyderm
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Snyderm
Using this phrase means that someone is claiming something, but what they are doing deosn't match their words.


I smiled for a sec but then i just felt sad for you.

Dictionary.com is the most correct and flawless source of info. Same as Wikipedia.

Try again.


You see, this is why I never really want to quit eve. The player base is made up of such highly dedicated trolls! you just don't find this level of commitment forom other online communities!

Here he is just waiting for me to make another post... Hoping for the rage! Oh, the anticipation!

I was trying to point out that this thread is just a troll trying to anger 0.0 inhabitants by claiming ccp just loves them to death! Of course then I got hit with another unrelated troll just trying to do that!

I just don't think that people are going to leave this game. Because despite whatever ccp decides to nerf, EVE simply has the best and most dedicated community there is. So after they nerf wormholes, you might as well just do more wormholes.


EPIC FAIL

You have no idea how old that word really is. Try going back to the original greek dictionary. I bet you didn't see that one coming did ya? ugh


 

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