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Honest Jill
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Honest Jill on 04/08/2011 19:32:47
Edited by: Honest Jill on 04/08/2011 19:32:31
Edited by: Honest Jill on 04/08/2011 00:40:08
I was in the process of corp-killing a mining op and I got booted from the corp before I could kill their Orca. I ended up getting CONCORDed and the CEO got away with his Orca in hull.

What exploit is this? Is it an exploit to kick somebody in space, or is it an exploit to kick them in space so that they get CONCORDed?

I did not lose sec status for it.

Update: The Orca pilot has admitted to exploiting, but then edited the post:

http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1558360/page/2

Originally by: Orion Dreadstar
Hi everyone, I was the pilot of the orca in question. Simply put, Honest Jill (at that time ToryAlexander) was a newly joined corp member. We had recently instituted a policy of giving very new members no roles until they prove to be trustworthy. This was not known to "Honest Jill" because we were griefed before by a friend of her's, and adjusted our policies to prevent such events.
I was using my orca to haul, when "Honest Jill" jammed and attacked me. I chose not to attack back because i knew it would have been futile anyway. At the time my orca was set up for simple mining boosting and hauling, not concentrating on defense. We attempted to kick her from the corp. since she did not have any earned roles yet, and low and behold, the game allowed us to. The next thing we knew, concord showed up and saved my Orca. Thank you CCP and CONCORD


Update 2: I got my ship back and Orion Dreadstar has not logged in since.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:39:00 - [2]
 

It's a trap!

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:40:00 - [3]
 

Anyone with Honest in their name is suspicious.

Kitsune Tsuki
Amarr
L'Opaline
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:41:00 - [4]
 

Life is hilariously cruel.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:41:00 - [5]
 

Like that "Honest Joe" guy who started a giant EVE hedge fund and ran off with everyone's money.

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:44:00 - [6]
 

Seems like a fair game mechanic.

Adonis Peverell
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:46:00 - [7]
 

To be fair, you were destroying a piece of their fairly valuable property. You kind of deserved it.

Kijo Rikki
Caldari
Point of No Return
Waterboard
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:46:00 - [8]
 

And here all this time us folks in 0.0 keep getting fed the lie that blue tacklers have to be docked to be kicked from corp. Something foul is afoot.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.07.29 01:51:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kijo Rikki
And here all this time us folks in 0.0 keep getting fed the lie that blue tacklers have to be docked to be kicked from corp. Something foul is afoot.


It's a trap.

Anon Forumalt6858
Posted - 2011.07.29 02:00:00 - [10]
 

The clean hands doctrine is a rule of law that someone bringing a lawsuit or motion and asking the court for equitable relief must be innocent of wrongdoing or unfair conduct relating to the subject matter of his/her claim. It is an affirmative defense that the defendant may claim the plaintiff has "unclean hands".

Simetraz
Posted - 2011.07.29 02:05:00 - [11]
 

Of course the obvious question is did you have any roles.

A. You never had ANY roles which is odd.
B. You had your roles revoked which takes 24 Hours, so hardly a no notice kick there.
C. You can petition CCP to kick somebody from a corp that never docks, that takes time though to process.

As others have said, there is a lot more to this then your 2 line statement.


Serene Repose
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.29 02:19:00 - [12]
 

Aw! You just wanted to blow up the Orca. AD-mit it! I bet you act the same way when somebody snatches the steak from your fork just as you're about to eat it!

Suckah! (Oops. There went my serenity!)

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.29 02:22:00 - [13]
 

LOL whining about being corp kicked while killing their assets for fun. Meh Karma is a ***** aint it.

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.07.29 02:22:00 - [14]
 

I too hate it when being dumb does not go my way :(

Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
Posted - 2011.07.29 03:12:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Anyone with Honest in their name is suspicious.


We better keep our eye on her.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.07.29 03:25:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Verone on 29/07/2011 03:26:32

You can't kick someone from a corporation while they're in space.

They need to be docked for you to do it, game mechanics give you an error message saying it's not possible when you try it.

0/10. Crappy troll thread.

On the remote chance it did happen you should file a petition and submit a bug report.


Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.29 04:35:00 - [17]
 

I want to make a great reply, but really, all I can do is laugh ...

LaughingLaughingLaughing

Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.29 04:57:00 - [18]
 

This actually changed about 2 or 3 patches ago. It was essencially a change to the corp management tools to allow for roles, memberships and other activities to be accomplished while in space. The reasoning for this was actually solid. Supercaps had to leave their ship unpiloted somewhere and dock to change stuff. The new feature was to be able to leave and join corps while in space and still piloting your ship.

With this change CEOs could kick people without them docking because the change over effect no longer initiated on dock.

Eian
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.29 07:24:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Honest Jill
I was in the process of corp-killing a mining op and I got booted from the corp before I could kill their Orca. I ended up getting CONCORDed and the CEO got away with his Orca in hull.

What exploit is this? Is it an exploit to kick somebody in space, or is it an exploit to kick them in space so that they get CONCORDed?


EVE IS REAL

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.07.29 07:30:00 - [20]
 

So its not a bug, you just got owned.

To put in in the words of my collegue here:

Originally by: Headerman
I too hate it when being dumb does not go my way :(

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.07.29 08:16:00 - [21]
 


Hoisted on your own petard butt hurt is the best butt hurt.

Tian Garsk
Posted - 2011.07.29 08:51:00 - [22]
 

Betraying your corp you deserve everything you get. I join a corp i'm 100% loyal to them, if i decide they are no longer for me i leave , if i decide they're so bad i want to shoot at them i leave and join a corp that's willing to dec them.

Because Of Door
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:20:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Lithalnas
This actually changed about 2 or 3 patches ago. It was essencially a change to the corp management tools to allow for roles, memberships and other activities to be accomplished while in space. The reasoning for this was actually solid. Supercaps had to leave their ship unpiloted somewhere and dock to change stuff. The new feature was to be able to leave and join corps while in space and still piloting your ship.

With this change CEOs could kick people without them docking because the change over effect no longer initiated on dock.


^^^

The truth is out there. (Actually what she/he said)...

Kehro Urgus
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:31:00 - [24]
 

Who would recruit someone named Honest Jill?

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:33:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: dexington on 29/07/2011 09:33:10
Seems like your plan just backfired, you tried you make in-game mechanics work in your favor he did the same, don't think if fair for anyone of you to call the other a cheater.

In the end it's win some lose some, when you try to apply strategies that involve clever use of in-game mechanics.

Generals4
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:33:00 - [26]
 

The tears of griefers... tastes good.

Kion Clarix
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:50:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Lithalnas
This actually changed about 2 or 3 patches ago. It was essencially a change to the corp management tools to allow for roles, memberships and other activities to be accomplished while in space. The reasoning for this was actually solid. Supercaps had to leave their ship unpiloted somewhere and dock to change stuff. The new feature was to be able to leave and join corps while in space and still piloting your ship.

With this change CEOs could kick people without them docking because the change over effect no longer initiated on dock.


Pretty sure this is false

EvEa Deva
Posted - 2011.07.29 09:51:00 - [28]
 

I was there, I had to laugh as she exploded with a loud doooosh. I was there!

Jack Dant
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.29 10:22:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Honest Jill
What exploit is this? Is it an exploit to kick somebody in space, or is it an exploit to kick them in space so that they get CONCORDed?

Just did a quick test, and it's now perfectly possible to kick someone from corp while they are in space. Not sure when this was changed.

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.07.29 10:23:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Kion Clarix
Originally by: Lithalnas
This actually changed about 2 or 3 patches ago. It was essencially a change to the corp management tools to allow for roles, memberships and other activities to be accomplished while in space. The reasoning for this was actually solid. Supercaps had to leave their ship unpiloted somewhere and dock to change stuff. The new feature was to be able to leave and join corps while in space and still piloting your ship.

With this change CEOs could kick people without them docking because the change over effect no longer initiated on dock.


Pretty sure this is false


I've failed to kick someone from corp in space (sitting at POS) quite recently.

Patch notes, or you're talking out your arse Lithalnas


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