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Nian Istaria
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:07:00 - [1]
 

After thinking for awhile i believe a purist could still make Eve thier home.

Lets define purist - someone who is against bots, multiboxers, and RMTs.

The market is where these activities bring thier users gains, so the obvious answer is to not use the market - except for the basic npc seeded commodities.

The game is designed to be "bootstrap" capable - starting at ground zero there are ways to acquire all you can want without interacting with other players.

I didn't say it'd be easy or quick - it would expose your player/corp to all aspects of eve thou. As far as arguements like BP research and wardecs and being on equal ground...there is no need for a purist to be on equal ground, thats not the point and whs make a fine refuge. Highsec "take em down if wardeced research poses" are great.
I believe with some thought and reading and advertising getting a small corp of such players would be doable. As far as the nullsec arguement goes - who cares...nullsec is a cesspool and could be used for guerrilla warfare, bot hunting and mayhem.

So would something like this work ?

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:41:00 - [2]
 

Quote:
Let us pull definitions out of our ass.


Fixed.


Nian Istaria
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:49:00 - [3]
 

Thanks for pointing that out - It should say "Lets define MY idea of a purist"..owe you one.

Kytayn
Gallente
Kronos TEchnologies
Posted - 2011.07.24 04:00:00 - [4]
 

I'm with you on bots, which are usually for unsanctioned RMT. But how are multiboxers (I assume you mean people with multiple accounts, regardless of whether they alt-tab or have more than one physical computer) a problem, or more specifically "not pure"?

Nian Istaria
Posted - 2011.07.24 04:18:00 - [5]
 

First, answering your multiboxers question is going to cause the "make or get what you want yourself and don't interact with market because thats where the illicit gains are gotten" core principle derail faster then an F1 car in a hairpin corner with no brakes.

But , multiboxers are attempting to gain advantage by means that skirt the spirit of a game..i.e. "if the game is designed for a player i'll bring 4 'players'."

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.24 04:47:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Cipher Jones on 24/07/2011 04:47:09
Originally by: Nian Istaria
First, answering your multiboxers question is going to cause the "make or get what you want yourself and don't interact with market because thats where the illicit gains are gotten" core principle derail faster then an F1 car in a hairpin corner with no brakes.

But , multiboxers are attempting to gain advantage by means that skirt the spirit of a game..i.e. "if the game is designed for a player i'll bring 4 'players'."


The game is designed for one player? Lol. Which is why I was snippy in the first place. Sorry. But seriously, it's designed for as many players as we can cram on the server. It's even in the EULA that you may pay for more than one license.

Covert Kitty
Amarr
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.07.24 05:26:00 - [7]
 

Quote:
multiboxers are attempting to gain advantage by means that skirt the spirit of a game

LOL, wow, just wow.

More so than any other mmo, you benefit from multiple accounts / "multibox". I'm rather sure that Eve has a higher percentage of multi account use than any other mmo. My high was 5, I'm back down to 2 now.

Most people are against Bots, but trying associate that with multiboxing is just silly.

Kytayn
Gallente
Kronos TEchnologies
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:21:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Kytayn on 24/07/2011 06:21:45
Originally by: Covert Kitty
Quote:
multiboxers are attempting to gain advantage by means that skirt the spirit of a game

LOL, wow, just wow.

More so than any other mmo, you benefit from multiple accounts / "multibox". I'm rather sure that Eve has a higher percentage of multi account use than any other mmo. My high was 5, I'm back down to 2 now.

Most people are against Bots, but trying associate that with multiboxing is just silly.

Funnier to associate purity of play with avoiding the market. The market's the purest play in the game.

I smell wet troll. /emote: tips pretend hat to Cipher

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Nian Istaria
After thinking for awhile i believe a purist could still make Eve thier home.

Lets define purist - someone who is against bots, multiboxers, and RMTs.

The market is where these activities bring thier users gains, so the obvious answer is to not use the market - except for the basic npc seeded commodities.

The game is designed to be "bootstrap" capable - starting at ground zero there are ways to acquire all you can want without interacting with other players.

I didn't say it'd be easy or quick - it would expose your player/corp to all aspects of eve thou. As far as arguements like BP research and wardecs and being on equal ground...there is no need for a purist to be on equal ground, thats not the point and whs make a fine refuge. Highsec "take em down if wardeced research poses" are great.
I believe with some thought and reading and advertising getting a small corp of such players would be doable. As far as the nullsec arguement goes - who cares...nullsec is a cesspool and could be used for guerrilla warfare, bot hunting and mayhem.

So would something like this work ?



As i so eloquently stated before: **** off! nobody cares about you and your stupid ass ****ty definition of anything. This is a game, get over yourself you stupid self righteous ****tard. Play the game for fun or leave and stop trying to tell others how they should spend their time or money. If you aren't happy let the door hit you on the ass hard on your way out!

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:31:00 - [10]
 

Soooo... you basically want to avoid using the market.
Umm... Ok.
Guess you'll never fly T2 ships nor use T2 ammo, and probably not ever use some T2 modules either.
And you're probably also never going to fly some factional ships or ever equip certain factional modules.
Other than that, sure, no problem.
Knock yourself out.

Fullmetal Jackass
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:18:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Fullmetal Jackass on 24/07/2011 07:19:17

Man, over sensitive much? The dude throws out a hypothetical situation and you all go ape ****? Now I'm not quite sure why he's talking about avoiding the market, but however he wants to play is his bidness.

For the record though, eve was NOT originally designed for multi account play. How would they stop it though? So they allowed it, and now they encourage it because it makes them more cash. How many of the game's mechanics force multi player interaction? Cynos anyone? Blind gate jumps anyone? Ease of robbing jet cans? ect.

One player controlling four pilots is not in the original spirit of eve. Obviously that's not how eve operates now, but just because most people cheat doesn't make it not cheating. How little you understand the original concept of eve or fair competition if you think otherwise.


 

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