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Triphena
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:02:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Mina Sulva'r

Sent you 300M cause I felt sorry for you. Its all I can spare.
This better be for real.


New Eden ought to have some nice people too. +1

Max Keitt Keitt
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:04:00 - [32]
 

Nice suicide gank with just Thrashers.
Well played, sirs.

Woodman2
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:05:00 - [33]
 

Don't go AFK or use AP and then whine when you die.

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:27:00 - [34]
 

Ganks are a fact of life in EVE.

EVE is like Philadelphia or Camden, NJ.. Everybody has a gun, Everybody does want to mug you so you have to watch your back and carry a bigger gun.... or make sure to have thugs with guns on your side(drones).

just train and play smart..

For example if I wanted to haul 4000m3 of Morphite into Jita. I would use my Crane because nobody would know I was there before I was already docked. yes I am paranoid enough to cloak in empire space.. even in a 1.0 system id cloak if my cargo had enough value.

Zleon Leigh
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:31:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Zleon Leigh on 23/07/2011 05:31:52
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Ganks are a fact of life in EVE.

EVE is like Philadelphia or Camden, NJ.. Everybody has a gun, Everybody does want to mug you so you have to watch your back and carry a bigger gun.... or make sure to have thugs with guns on your side(drones).

just train and play smart..

For example if I wanted to haul 4000m3 of Morphite into Jita. I would use my Crane because nobody would know I was there before I was already docked. yes I am paranoid enough to cloak in empire space.. even in a 1.0 system id cloak if my cargo had enough value.


Except the pirates have all the incoming vectors to gates anchored with secure containers - you're not getting there all the way cloaked. You Fly Safe now, you hear? Twisted Evil


@OP - pretty sure one of the key EVE rules is never fly what you can't afford to loose... Might have just been a rumor though...

Adonis Peverell
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:37:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Adonis Peverell on 23/07/2011 05:36:55
Aye, I can tell you, ganks are never fun. I had my hauler with almost 100 mil in cargo on auto, got distracted, and accidentally left it sitting at a gate in Dodi all night. Needless to say, that **** got ganked. Good lesson though!

Calli Darri
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:43:00 - [37]
 

indeed-my old pilot-went afk for a sec to get a drink

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=3259009

expensive lessons are expensive

Calli Darri
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:46:00 - [38]
 

@OP We all have stories of stupidity to tell :) now you are one of us-welcome to Eve-it's real ya know

Alxea
Posted - 2011.07.23 06:47:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Iron Breaker
So I have been hanging out in high-sec, mining, building stuff, and staying out of trouble. I come back to the key board, and my Hulk, that cost over 250 mill. Isk, has been suicide ganked. I lost a 250 mill Hulk to a guy in a 1 mill Trasher. So, how is this supposed to be fun for me? I am supposed to pay $15 a month so someone and just come along and destory my ship, I worked very hard for, and now I have nothing? The Insurance is a joke on a Hulk, and no matter how good my skills are I can't toughen it up to last against high sec gankers, and now I have nothing? This is supposed to be fun for me? For $15 a month. So, now I am out my $15, and I have nothing in game... and the fun element is where?


The tears make eve sweet. Guess what its a part of the game. High sec is high security. Doesn't mean safe security. Rolling Eyes Also don't fly a ship you can't afford to lose. Rolling Eyes

Naran Eto
Posted - 2011.07.23 15:38:00 - [40]
 

Happens all the time, 4 to 5 thrashers fitted with 2x gyro's and 7c 200mm autocannons and a MWD can speed in close and take out a hulk with plenty of time before CONCORD respond.

Doravos
Posted - 2011.07.23 15:45:00 - [41]
 

I have never been ganked. Not once. Ever. And I routinely go afk in hi-sec. I'm starting to wonder if it's some kind of myth made up by forum trolls.

Seven Sphynx
Posted - 2011.07.23 16:08:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Calli Darri
indeed-my old pilot-went afk for a sec to get a drink

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=3259009

expensive lessons are expensive



Muahahahaha! Nice one Very Happy

WTB Über Iteron V with 8-8-8 slot configuration AND a huge drone bay.

Also, looking at the KM: 18 items were fitted in the high slots, 52 fitted in mid slots and 27 fitted in the low slots ShockedShockedShocked

Epic Killmail is epic.

Saia Tae Arragosa
Posted - 2011.07.23 18:30:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Iron Breaker
I come back to the key board, and my Hulk, that cost over 250 mill. Isk, has been suicide ganked.


So you were botting. I mean you state yourself you were AFK from the keyboard.


Kitsune Tsuki
Amarr
L'Opaline
Posted - 2011.07.23 18:40:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Kitsune Tsuki on 23/07/2011 18:41:19
Originally by: Iron Breaker

I was enjoying myself just fine, till someone else ruined it for me.


That's one of the definitions of Eve. When it happens, it usually means it's time to rethink something.


J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.23 18:42:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: J Kunjeh on 23/07/2011 18:42:27
All I can say is, if you go AFK, you should expect to be sploded when you return. Chalk it up as a learning lesson.

Thomas Turnpoint
Posted - 2011.07.23 19:09:00 - [46]
 

My guess is that had you not been AFK, and had you been watching local, instead of "staring at rocks", you'd have noticed a sudden increase in the number of ships and been able to do something about it. Like check profiles, kb stats, and so on. These aren't guaranteed methods of preventing you from getting ganked, but if you have a couple guys fly into the system and their killboard list is mostly mining ships, odds are you should warp and dock at the nearest station.
This doesn't mean there aren't individuals out there with 5.0 sec status and no miner kills who will warp in with some friends and gank you.

The only thing you can do in Eve is work to minimize the risk as much as you are capable. You can never remove the risk completely.

As for suddenly finding your ship destroyed, be happy you didn't come back from AFK and find yourself in station.

Jacob Stiller
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:37:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Jacob Stiller on 24/07/2011 03:37:20
OP, < 5 minute google search found a well tanked hulk fit. Tanked Hulk

Basically, use shield extending rigs, put a damage control in a low, forget about cargo extenders, forget about the survey scanner, and put shield extenders and resistance modules in the mids (1 extender, 1 EM resist, and 2 invulnerability fields in this setup). Of course, with the much reduced cargohold, you'll have to use Giant Secure Containers and an industrial ship.

My advice is still to get out of mining altogether though.

Iron Breaker
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:58:00 - [48]
 

Everyone keeps telling me to stop mining, but I like making stuff, and it's really all I have time for. I am in school and doing a little mining and crafting is all I have time for. I cant spend all my time just staring at the screen wating for a gank; heck, I am sure one of them had a Warp scrambler any how, so what good would it have done?

People keep saying mining is a was of time; but, pretty much 90% of the stuff CCP keeps adding is usless. Billion isk clothes for chacters..usless; faction warfair..pointless; the faction you join when you enter the game, meaningless; low and null sec about as pointless as a dog chasing its tail. Every time CCP decided to shoot its self in the foot by launching a new expansion, it manages to hit both feet.

I was enjoying myelf couple times an houre mining and crafting and CCP seems to enjoy letting people screw each other over. Is it any wonder the number of players in the game has remained flat for so long?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.24 04:02:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Iron Breaker
I was enjoying myelf couple times an houre mining and crafting and CCP seems to enjoy letting people screw each other over. Is it any wonder the number of players in the game has remained flat for so long?
No, but that has nothing to do with ganks, since those have existed since time immemorial and haven't affected the increase of players during that time. The reason the population curve has gone flat is 100% attributable to a series of disappointing expansions.

Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.24 05:06:00 - [50]
 

I have to agree with the OP in regards to those who want him to leave mining altogether. After all, there are some players who actually say that missioning is boring just like mining as well as commodities trading. But overall, if mining is what someone does best, then that person should stick to it.

But regardless of my support in regarding to mining and how important is really is to pvp players, I still have to agree with the rest of the people here that you should have done better to prepare against a suicide gank. Here is a tip: Fit a medium shield booster II (you may need a Micro-Auxiliary Power Core for this). It might save your future-Hulk's life as it did with mine.

Ku Feym
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:24:00 - [51]
 

Welcome to EVE. It is only when you've lost everything you are free to do anything.

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:29:00 - [52]
 

Personal attack removed. Spitfire

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:47:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Malcanis on 24/07/2011 06:55:25
Originally by: Iron Breaker
So, how is this supposed to be fun for me?


Some people enjoy learning new things.

Here's your chance to learn how to fit your Hulk to survive a Thrasher gank. It will even survive being can baited by said Thrasher.

[Hulk, GankThis]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
'Anointed' I EM Ward Reinforcement
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5



Effect Butterfly
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:16:00 - [54]
 

The point is that EVE isn't the game you should play after hard day working, you can't relax here and loose concentration for one second.

"the fun element" in eve online exist only for pvp players.

Jacob Stiller
Posted - 2011.07.24 17:58:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Iron Breaker
Everyone keeps telling me to stop mining, but I like making stuff, and it's really all I have time for. I am in school and doing a little mining and crafting is all I have time for. I cant spend all my time just staring at the screen wating for a gank; heck, I am sure one of them had a Warp scrambler any how, so what good would it have done?

People keep saying mining is a was of time; but, pretty much 90% of the stuff CCP keeps adding is usless. Billion isk clothes for chacters..usless; faction warfair..pointless; the faction you join when you enter the game, meaningless; low and null sec about as pointless as a dog chasing its tail. Every time CCP decided to shoot its self in the foot by launching a new expansion, it manages to hit both feet.

I was enjoying myelf couple times an houre mining and crafting and CCP seems to enjoy letting people screw each other over. Is it any wonder the number of players in the game has remained flat for so long?


Then keep mining in a properly tanked ship. But then again, you want to mine afk since watching mining lasers cycle is so damn boring. Hence, you mustn't be finding mining all that entertaining after all. From this post, I infer that what you actually like is "crafting." I.e. industry. Most industrialist buy their ore/minerals instead of farming it themselves. However, industry is probably one of the hardest activities for a low SP toon as there are tons of old industry toons out there that can operate at tighter margins than you simply by having a lot of manufacturing skills at 5.

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.24 18:07:00 - [56]
 

Not even a 20 mil thrasher on 0.5 can kill a hulk. You fail at lying.

Sitting Duck
Posted - 2011.07.24 19:00:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Probably Alt
To whine somewhere else you useless piece of ****. Who the **** cares that you went AFK to mine and someone decided to take care of things, boo ****ing hoo. You are the worst type of scum and bot wanta-bee. Get the **** out of eve and please let the door hit you on the way out.

This isn't wow, go cry to your parents for $15 to spend on that game since you obviously need coddlingand hand holding and can't hack it in the real world. We don't care about you and your stupid hulk, don't go afk and be an idiot.[/quote


Who asked you for your opinion?
And to OP: don't listen to what anyone who tell you that you "wasn't prepered - get over it". They are just little boys with pimples and bad self esteem who want to boost their egos.

Jacob Stiller
Posted - 2011.07.24 19:10:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Renan Ruivo
Not even a 20 mil thrasher on 0.5 can kill a hulk. You fail at lying.


The killmail was posted on battleclinic. He was jumped by a gang of 6 thrashers.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.24 19:38:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Effect Butterfly

"the fun element" in eve online exist only for pvp players.


Rolling Eyes Speak for yourself...

I mean really, please, ONLY speak for yourself in life...ever...mmkay?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.24 19:46:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Renan Ruivo
Not even a 20 mil thrasher on 0.5 can kill a hulk. You fail at lying.
Oh, I don't know… It's possible (but will require some trickery) to get a Hulk below 7k EHP, and 0.5 gives you, what? 30s? Can't you squeeze 250 DPS out of a Trasher if you overdo it?


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