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BRIMTAK
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:08:00 - [1]
 

http://www.eveisreal.net/#!/visualizer/

Everyone get your aurum!
/puke

EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:31:00 - [2]
 

Care to elaborate for us unenlightened folk?

Uuali
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:57:00 - [3]
 

If you mean it makes you sick because it's pure propaganda that can't be backed up with in-game development that can truly be said to match the vision CCP seems to be implying with the visualizer… then I'm with you!


Put that **** in the game CCP instead of having us try and make your half baked **** look better.

Jason1138
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:55:00 - [4]
 

its funny how every ad for Eve makes the game look totally different than it really is

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:57:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
its funny how every ad for Eve makes the game look totally different than it really is
Oh, I don't know… Apocrypha was fairly truthful (UI elements aside), as was Trinity before it…

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:17:00 - [6]
 

It's smart. In MMOs, people are the content.

Milken Gekko
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:27:00 - [7]
 

Except in Soviet EVE, the game plays YOU!

Flag Bravo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.23 05:32:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
its funny how every ad for Eve makes the game look totally different than it really is


You find yourself thinking "What's wrong with this picture" Wink

Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.24 05:27:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Albetta
It's stupid. In MMOs, people are the bunnyhopping idiots who get in the way every time you try to get **** done.



fixed.

Ku Feym
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:21:00 - [10]
 

EVE is real. Or as I like to call it, the ad campaign CCP quickly pulled out of their butts to save themselves after a lot of bad press.

I'll bet they sat up late all week after the mass protests to concoct this ad campaign instead of just worrying about what everyone wanted them to be worrying about.

Priorities. Getting them wrong since at least 2008.

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:24:00 - [11]
 

**** off nobody cares about you, this is a game get a real life and stop posting at 2am amateur!

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:29:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Ku Feym
EVE is real. Or as I like to call it, the ad campaign CCP quickly pulled out of their butts to save themselves after a lot of bad press.

I'll bet they sat up late all week after the mass protests to concoct this ad campaign instead of just worrying about what everyone wanted them to be worrying about.

Priorities. Getting them wrong since at least 2008.


You know all this with a 2 month old character. If you have a main - post with it. Let's see your credentials fly boy.

You're talking like you've played the game for years, so show me the money because Ku Feym wasn't around in 2008.




Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
Damned Nation
Posted - 2011.07.24 06:51:00 - [13]
 

Haters love to hate. But I checked out the link for a few minutes and I could easily insert quite a few personal events in there that were quite exciting, engaging and at times addictive. Although I am unsubbing my 2 accounts, mostly because of RL stuff and hardware issues, I will be back again eventually, Eve is one of the best games I've ever played.

Can it be improved? Hell yeah! I'm hoping that when I do come back there will be some fresh content, but seriously, to have been addicted for so long to one game is a feat and a half. Hats off to CCP!!

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:19:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 24/07/2011 07:28:46
...other than how the hell a pod-pilot [naked in goo, using his mind to control the intercepter... and being immortal with clones] has his hands "shaking" and is afraid [what!?!?] he is n't going to make it? not to mention that seeing so many of his mates get blown up [SO WHAT, you will see them in the station vat-bay!!!]... and he sounds like the biggest *****/wussy I have ever heard speak... get some ********* there buddy.

THIS IS How you advertise EVE

and

THIS...

not... Wu**sy McPuddlePants there in his ceptor!... *vomits*

What is wrong with it besides that, oh and that it is completely not what EVE is like game wise, meta game wise, tactics wise, etc wise.

I think it is pure, if you are a ***** and you want to play spaceships and crap your drawers because you might be killed, then this game isn't it... EVE is real, but this is crap... end of line.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:21:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Jonni Favorite
Haters love to hate. But I checked out the link for a few minutes and I could easily insert quite a few personal events in there that were quite exciting, engaging and at times addictive. Although I am unsubbing my 2 accounts, mostly because of RL stuff and hardware issues, I will be back again eventually, Eve is one of the best games I've ever played.

Can it be improved? Hell yeah! I'm hoping that when I do come back there will be some fresh content, but seriously, to have been addicted for so long to one game is a feat and a half. Hats off to CCP!!


new record of how far someone can physically crawl up someone else's buns... CCP alt detector goes haywire!

baltec1
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:30:00 - [16]
 

It would help if you lot played the game rather than just *****ed on the forums.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:31:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: baltec1
It would help if you lot played the game rather than just *****ed on the forums.


hmmm... my main - 289 days on that char alone at 9H a day... I guess I play the game!

baltec1
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:43:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Originally by: baltec1
It would help if you lot played the game rather than just *****ed on the forums.


hmmm... my main - 289 days on that char alone at 9H a day... I guess I play the game!


And yet you have no stories of excitement to tell...

Xyla Vulchanus
Amarr
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:45:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 24/07/2011 07:28:46
...other than how the hell a pod-pilot [naked in goo, using his mind to control the intercepter... and being immortal with clones] has his hands "shaking" and is afraid [what!?!?] he is n't going to make it? not to mention that seeing so many of his mates get blown up [SO WHAT, you will see them in the station vat-bay!!!]... and he sounds like the biggest *****/wussy I have ever heard speak... get some ********* there buddy.

THIS IS How you advertise EVE

and

THIS...

not... Wu**sy McPuddlePants there in his ceptor!... *vomits*

What is wrong with it besides that, oh and that it is completely not what EVE is like game wise, meta game wise, tactics wise, etc wise.

I think it is pure, if you are a ***** and you want to play spaceships and crap your drawers because you might be killed, then this game isn't it... EVE is real, but this is crap... end of line.



Ah the good old days, when Eve was Eve and CCP were men.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:46:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Originally by: baltec1
It would help if you lot played the game rather than just *****ed on the forums.


hmmm... my main - 289 days on that char alone at 9H a day... I guess I play the game!


And yet you have no stories of excitement to tell...


I have, I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... attack ships on fire of the shoulder of Orion... *record being ripped noise*

This enjoyment is being interrupted for an important NeX message, Mononcles are now matching shoes!

... Time to die...*releases dove*... Crying or Very sad

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.07.24 08:00:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Originally by: baltec1
It would help if you lot played the game rather than just *****ed on the forums.


hmmm... my main - 289 days on that char alone at 9H a day... I guess I play the game!


And yet you have no stories of excitement to tell...


I have, I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... attack ships on fire of the shoulder of Orion... *record being ripped noise*

This enjoyment is being interrupted for an important NeX message, Mononcles are now matching shoes!

... Time to die...*releases dove*... Crying or Very sad


You don't need to engage in vanity etc. You can stick with the space combat elements if you want - but you would rather repeat the same old rubbish time and time again - as if somehow a monocle was ruining your game.

I don't vanity (nothing will make this face look good) and the whole affair hasn't made a blind bit of difference to my gameplay.

Baltec is right. You have no stories to tell ... come back when you've played the game.




Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.07.24 08:24:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Ehdward on 24/07/2011 08:25:23
The only thing the EVEIsReal trailer that's inaccurate is the lack of ARRRMORR HACS ARRRMOOORRR HAAACSSS

Oh, and they skipped the waiting around all day for the fleet to form part too.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.24 08:37:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 24/07/2011 08:37:47
[Clone 9] Obviously you fail to understand simple things like this:

Monocle, NeX, Content not for FIS = Dev time, Hours, money that is NOT used for the game proper and is being used to make things that aren't helping the game...

CCP has X amount of resources, each and everything they have is setup a task, since they have deemed WIS, WoD and DUST as priorities, they have hired or moved people to work on these, and that is people that they could have had working on EVE proper.

That they should expect to divert income from EVE FIS players to the WIS, WoD, DUST projects is borked, any successful company knows - STICK TO YOUR CORE and you cannot go wrong, Spread yourself all over and expect to fail.

I have no issue with WIS IF it is optional and if it is not in place of the CORE, EVE... CCP needs to stop looking for the quick fix, the fast buck, the easy path, the handy excuse and get back to the core, and just put their axe to the grindstone and turn out something real and worth the money again...

You watch this PL and tell me that the past vision is still here... it isn't, they have gone way off base from the core and the origin!

LINK

baltec1
Posted - 2011.07.24 08:53:00 - [24]
 

Did CCP remove everything of the old game?

Oh wait no they haven't, they have added things to it that they have wanted from the very start and I for one like the CQ.

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.07.24 09:03:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: CLONE 9 on 24/07/2011 09:12:46
Originally by: Valentina Valentia
Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 24/07/2011 08:37:47
[Clone 9] Obviously you fail to understand simple things like this:

Monocle, NeX, Content not for FIS = Dev time, Hours, money that is NOT used for the game proper and is being used to make things that aren't helping the game...

CCP has X amount of resources, each and everything they have is setup a task, since they have deemed WIS, WoD and DUST as priorities, they have hired or moved people to work on these, and that is people that they could have had working on EVE proper.

That they should expect to divert income from EVE FIS players to the WIS, WoD, DUST projects is borked, any successful company knows - STICK TO YOUR CORE and you cannot go wrong, Spread yourself all over and expect to fail.

I have no issue with WIS IF it is optional and if it is not in place of the CORE, EVE... CCP needs to stop looking for the quick fix, the fast buck, the easy path, the handy excuse and get back to the core, and just put their axe to the grindstone and turn out something real and worth the money again...

You watch this PL and tell me that the past vision is still here... it isn't, they have gone way off base from the core and the origin!

LINK


Ahhh right - so CCP are not allowed to develop new games then - or if they are, you dictate that they have to raise the funds elsewhere. It's not common practice for companies to expand using profits rather than investment in order to maintain control and integrity?

TBH - I'm tired/bored of hearing from couch professors on these forums. I'm planning to buy from the Nex now - just because I know it makes you butthurt.


Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.24 09:06:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Valentina Valentia


LINK


That one made me think of this, I get goosebumps from watching it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LdPf2J_hs

Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.24 09:33:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

That one made me think of this, I get goosebumps from watching it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LdPf2J_hs

5 years on and it's still the best EvE trailer ever made.
They don't make them like they used to.

Naran Eto
Posted - 2011.07.24 13:16:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Milken Gekko
Except in Soviet EVE, the game plays YOU!


That wasn't funny on the SWG-GAT and it isn't funny here either :P

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.07.24 13:23:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 24/07/2011 13:27:51
Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 24/07/2011 13:25:36
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Jason1138
its funny how every ad for Eve makes the game look totally different than it really is
Oh, I don't know… Apocrypha was fairly truthful (UI elements aside), as was Trinity before it…

You show me one ingame fight that actually looks anything remotely similar to what they convey with those trailers and I'll contract you those Quafe boosters I never bothered with. It's all window-dressing and we all know it.
Originally by: Albetta
It's smart. In MMOs, people are the content.

Bull****.

Decent MMOs have decent gameplay. That gameplay draws in the people. Not to say that Eve doesn't have decent gameplay, but overall it's very far from where it could and should be considering just how much money was pumped into it over the years. After eight years of developement pvp balance, f.e., should be ****ing epic. Look where it actually is.

Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.07.24 15:35:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar

Decent MMOs have decent gameplay. That gameplay draws in the people. Not to say that Eve doesn't have decent gameplay, but overall it's very far from where it could and should be considering just how much money was pumped into it over the years. After eight years of developement pvp balance, f.e., should be ****ing epic. Look where it actually is.


Very much this.

EVE has lots of depth and complexity, which is great. I love the build system and and trying out fits in the game, etc., etc. There's great depth in all the other areas like industry and the market too. All that side of it is no problem.

But if CCP think that the combat gameplay is good enough to attract the crowd they seem to want to attract - I have a feeling they may be in for a rude awakening.

The PvE in EVE is BORING AS HELL in absolute MMO terms. Since Tactical Overlay is the only way to fly for efficiency, it ends up playing like some weird RTS where you're a hero unit fighting against a bunch of little red crosses. EVE combat has great tactical depth, but there's nothing visceral about it, except when you fly smaller ships in L1/L2 missions, and don't need TO so much.

PvP in EVE would be just as boring, if not for the element of "real"-feeling risk that gives a huge adrenaline jag.

The only reason players stuck with EVE through the fairly crappy combat so far was because of the fact that EVE was a true virtual world, where they could build a virtual career, over time, with self-motivation, patience, etc. THAT is what made EVE great. In that context, the combat was just fine.

But the types of kiddies who CCP are thinking of attracting have no patience for that sort of thing - they want instant gratification. They will not be prepared to put in time and effort only to be shot down by other whiney griefer kids, they'll want to be uber out of the box. They won't be so interested in tactical depth (only up to a certain point).

If CCP think their playerbase has been "difficult" up till now, they'd better be prepared for the fickle, whining mob to come. They'll have to get on the content treadmill like every other MMO developer.

But even worse - then they'll be constantly competing against whatever the newest, shiniest, latest MMO is. How can an EVE gutted of its virtual worldiness compete with something like SWTOR? The very idea is laughable.

I wonder if they know the devil they've bargained with? EVE is a cash cow, sure - but if they continue in this direction, it will only be a cash cow the more work they put into it, to satisfy the new playerbase they want to attract.

Before, they had a lot of elbow room because of the fact that players created a lot of their own content. If they continue down the road they're on, THEY will have to continually cram content into the hungry maw of an ever-more fickle, ever more whiney, churning playerbase.


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