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Robert Hudson
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:17:00 - [31]
 

Questions:

1) What was the locus of that wh

2) Where you unachoring that tower before the rift and sleeper appeared.

3) Was that the last POS in that system. I mean did you have other POS in that system which were still online.

4) If there were other towers in that system which were still online what this tower where the rift appeared the only one with no defences on it.

Robert Hudson
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:31:00 - [32]
 

ok I spoke to Mister AL in game and found out at least that it was the last tower in that sytem which was being removed. So I'm running a little experiment in our static right now. This wh has no control towers in it including abandoned ones.

I've set up a small control tower with 2 hours fuel. I'm onlining it now. Once online I'll wait a hour until it draws fuel then I'll offline it and see if anything happens. If nothing happens I'll unanchor it and see if anything happens.

I will post my findings here.

ATM I dont have a good way to test if DT has anything to do with it but I may repeat this experiment at DT if the results are negative but thats not really my TZ.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:38:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Robert Hudson
ok I spoke to Mister AL in game and found out at least that it was the last tower in that sytem which was being removed. So I'm running a little experiment ...

<snip for brevity>

I would guess, uneducatedly, that there's more randomness involved than simply offlining/unanchoring a tower. If, and I repeat if, this proves to be reoccuring, I'd suspect any tower may wind up fortunate (or misfortunate, depending on the tower) enough to say hello to our little friends.

my cheeks hurt
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:50:00 - [34]
 

the sleepers are taking away your abc!!!

Dark Reignz
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:54:00 - [35]
 

Looks photo-shopped to me.

5 ships in pos yet 8 on the overview

The text "Spatial" and "Rift 24km" look slightly different font sizes.

The image and backrgound look distorted to me, the kind of destortion you get when you fck up layer overylays.

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:00:00 - [36]
 

Well, had a talk with the pilot. And seems like I've mislead you, Hudson.

1. The was another PoS in the system, of another corp, that seems to have already been anchored at the moment it started.

2. At the moment the Rift and the Sleeper appeared (at one moment) the PoS was not ananchoring. Maybe a hangar was.

3. The Rift was there for about 5 minutes, then disapeared. The sleeper was there for another 10 minutes or so, then disappaered too.

Marchocias
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:09:00 - [37]
 

Was he friendly?

Ildus Hekx
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:09:00 - [38]
 

It's a shame no one went through the rift...

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:15:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Ildus Hekx
It's a shame no one went through the rift...


... this time. If I see one, you bet your arse I'm heading in if possible.

Diamaht Nevain
Gallente
Avatar Union
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:53:00 - [40]
 

Would be cool if that was a regular feature. If they are not bringing in Dreads to kill the pos's it would add a little more danger and loot. Would also make it important to make sure you don't have any POS's offline.

If it's a bug they should leave it and expand on it.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:03:00 - [41]
 

Who unanchors a pos with several unmanned ships (including a loki and a tengu) inside the pos shields?

This doesn't pass the smell test.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:08:00 - [42]
 

I'm guessing this is on SiSi and it illustrates CCP's newest tactic to retain subscribers:

When they try to take their POS down (to bring it back to empire, in preparation for account hibernation (POSes can't fuel themselves,)) drop a bunch of sleepers on their heads.

Robert Hudson
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:26:00 - [43]
 

As per my earlier post about the experiment. Nothing happened though it didn't seem very likely given the new information given since I started it.

And for everyone who keeps talking about them unanchoring the POS and unanchoring it with ships floating. Well the forcefield is up in the screenshot. So the tower isn't even offline not to mention its not unanchoring. The ships are floating unpiloted likely because there was an SMA there which was being removed prior to the POS being taken down. So they ejected the ships and started the SMA unanchoring. Then due to bad camera angle there you have the confusion. But to be fair they were taking a picture of the rift not the disasembly of the POS.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:30:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 21/07/2011 19:32:31
Oops, good point, it can't be the tower unanchoring or the shield would already be down (and nothing could be 'online'.)

My bad.

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:31:00 - [45]
 

Robert, if possible. Try not unanchring, try leaving no fuel in the tower, or that just for one hour. I doubt that will do anything as it seems to be the whole thing was a controlled event.

Ataxio
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:50:00 - [46]
 

Not 100% sure how sleeper spawns work. But it's not unheard of for rats to warp to a planet or a moon, Even a moon with a pos at it.

During my time in EvE I've seen this happen about 3 times. One of the times i was fortunate enough to be able to gun them down with the POS for some fun ;P

However the rats have never locked down / attacked a POS to my knowledge.

Cobular
Posted - 2011.07.21 20:29:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: ExookiZ
sleepers are incapable of attacking poses. so whoever said they had seen them doing so before is lying, or has been lied too. This exact question was asked at Fanfest and we were told that it was fundamentally impossible for NPCs to attack other NPCs. Such a venture would require a large overhaul of base coding, which given CCPs continual display of not enough coders id say it isnt being done right now either.. The round table was rly hoping they would come attack us :( lol.

that being said CCP could have lied to us.... but just saying. And so far ccp has done splendidly at picking all the wrong people to do these live events too. They either dont tell anyone, or dont act on it. so i am dissapointed >_<. judging from the icon that rift appears to be 2 way...


This is a lot of very cut and dry statements. How do you know what sleepers are and aren't capable of? Or what CCP is or isn't capable of changing? Who the F*** are you anyways? The sleeper guru? **** off nub.

The sleepers don't even necessarily have to be there to attack the POS. Look at the number of vessels just floating around in the POS. Maybe they were there to engage player ships. Who knows?
You can bet if this is going to be recurring, we will have a number of pilots experimenting with a few things :)

Demon Azrakel
Gallente
Defiant..
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2011.07.21 20:52:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Obviously you don't want them to have the strength of a fleet of twenty BBs intent on mass destruction


I don't? Record I've been on the field with was 25 Sleeper BS (20 Guardians), 4 cruisers, 6 frigs. I don't see a problem, if fleets of this size only appear in c6 space (say, 15 for C5 space). Actually, after, say, a year of a pos being anchored, a 50 BS fleet might be a cool thing to see.

raker
Posted - 2011.07.21 21:59:00 - [49]
 



Sleepers at Pos in WH's hmm, that would be nice

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.21 22:04:00 - [50]
 

What is the spatial rift all about?

JAG Fox
GunStars
Posted - 2011.07.22 00:04:00 - [51]
 

Hmmm. very cool CCP!

Kwashi
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
Posted - 2011.07.22 08:30:00 - [52]
 

That "spatial rift" thing shows up in mission pockets sometimes too as a collidable, non-interactable object that appears to have no purpose other than a scenery doodad. Even if this isn't a hoax I doubt you'd be able to enter it.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 09:01:00 - [53]
 

Darn it, another w-space event that isn't followed up upon by the players involved.Sad

Oh yes, the spatial rift can most certainly be activated like an acceleration gate, just like in the mission 'Chasing a Nightmare' of the SoE epic arc.

Did you guys not pay attention to the talk here, where it was mentioned they were hoping to integrate deadspace complexes into events? Apparently they succeeded, sadly nobody had the guts to grab a Rifter and head through the rift.

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.07.22 11:37:00 - [54]
 

Having had a little talk with Robert Hudson we came to a conclusion that these recent wormhole events (look here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1515779) are controlled by CCP and the systems they happen at are not eventual. We think that CCP has a planned chained of events that are to make ground for winter expansion. These events are mainly activated in the systems with fairly big w-space corporations liveing as they are more likely to act approprietely to CCP plans, then thinking "that is OK, there are many unusual things here".

Expect to have some more events in CCRES, Transmission Lost and other big entities systems.

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.07.22 11:42:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Asuri Kinnes on 22/07/2011 11:43:22
Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Darn it, another w-space event that isn't followed up upon by the players involved.Sad

Oh yes, the spatial rift can most certainly be activated like an acceleration gate, just like in the mission 'Chasing a Nightmare' of the SoE epic arc.

Did you guys not pay attention to the talk here, where it was mentioned they were hoping to integrate deadspace complexes into events? Apparently they succeeded, sadly nobody had the guts to grab a Rifter and head through the rift.


/sigh... Of all the players in Eve, only a small group go to fan fest, with a slightly larger group watching the video. 3907 views (atm) - out of the 175000 account holders (however many) - that's not a large pool of people to "engage" an event - especially when it's not aimed specifically @ that group.

My Corp has a few guys that are keeping track of stuff like this - Sleeper lore, etc., but I bet that a *LOT* of corps don't...

EDIT TO ADD: Yeah, jump in a rifter with a Sleeper Cruiser out there... if you like throwing ships away...



Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.07.22 12:00:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Jose Black
I've certainly read about sleepers reinforcing POSes before. This is not new.



Where? Eve fiction forums? Rolling Eyes

Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:37:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Darn it, another w-space event that isn't followed up upon by the players involved.Sad

Oh yes, the spatial rift can most certainly be activated like an acceleration gate, just like in the mission 'Chasing a Nightmare' of the SoE epic arc.

Did you guys not pay attention to the talk here, where it was mentioned they were hoping to integrate deadspace complexes into events? Apparently they succeeded, sadly nobody had the guts to grab a Rifter and head through the rift.


Kind of funny that the people in w-space, somewhere "unexplored", don't have the guts to interact with a potential gate to somewhere "unexplored"

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:49:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Not-Apsalar

Kind of funny that the people in w-space, somewhere "unexplored", don't have the guts to interact with a potential gate to somewhere "unexplored"


Not as funny as someone generalizing an entire population based on the actions of one individual though.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 14:00:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 22/07/2011 14:01:25
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Not-Apsalar

Kind of funny that the people in w-space, somewhere "unexplored", don't have the guts to interact with a potential gate to somewhere "unexplored"


Not as funny as someone generalizing an entire population based on the actions of one individual though.


Let us just say, that guy certainly was no James T. Kirk. Wink

Originally by: Asuri Kinnes

EDIT TO ADD: Yeah, jump in a rifter with a Sleeper Cruiser out there... if you like throwing ships away...



I would say the Rifter is a perfect ship to throw away... That is why I did not mention the strategic cruisers parked next to it.

Maybe the Sansha pre-Incursion event was such a success because it mostly involved shooting at obvious bad guys. A concept easier to grasp.

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.07.22 15:22:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: MisterAl tt1 on 22/07/2011 15:23:05
Well, may I answer to all those "why didn't he jump?". If that rift was to move the pilot into some other system without a way back - than the system would lose the only good scaner there, as that is just a temporary PoS there.

Second - if the pilot was to die in that other system - I doubt the implants would've been paid for by all those benefiting from what he may've seen. Nice scanners in WH fly with nice implants.

Third - some people are simply not interested in any events but for those they create for themselves.


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