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Alx Warlord
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:09:00 - [1]
 

Every time that i get Disconected I end up with almost all my drones killed by something on a realy unfair way, and this is realy annoying since I have to stop doing my missions and go to a station, browse the market, buy new drones, go get them and only then return to the mission... sometimes, just to have the bad luck to get disconected again...

My sugestion is that when a player get disconected, along the automatic warp-out comand, an automatic return drones command would be sent, as the player would do to warp out if he was connected ("R" key), to give a small chance for the drones came back to the ship, while the ship builds up speed to the warp.
This is just a small change on the game code, but it makes a huge diference preventing allot of stress durring disconection, that i know many players have...

Thank you CCP for your attention!

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:18:00 - [2]
 

We shouldn't have to keep asking for this. Pull your finger out CCP!

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:10:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Nika Dekaia on 20/07/2011 17:13:47
This does come up regularily. CCP did not change it in the last couple of years. Seems like CCP thinks beeing not able to reconnect to drones (plus drones beeing destroyable) is a valid tradeoff to their advantages (99% ewar imune, beeing able to change damage type or size of drones).

Also, you having regular disconnects is not something CCP should consider when doing balance descissions.

Alx Warlord
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:39:00 - [4]
 

Well... you mean that if someone have connection issues, this person should stop using drones? or should stop playing eve? because this is not about the game balance, it is about the game mechanics. How about randomly you loosing all the guns on your ship during a missions, every time that the server have an issue?

The automatic return would not mean a 100% safety for the drones, this will not unbalance the game, this will just make the drone users less unhappy with disconnection and server instability problems...

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2011.07.20 22:33:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Alx Warlord
Well... you mean that if someone have connection issues, this person should stop using drones? or should stop playing eve? Because this is not about the game balance, it is about the game mechanics. How about randomly you loosing all the guns on your ship during a missions, every time that the server have an issue?
No, it's about you having a bad connection/provider/whatever. I do not happen to have random disconnects. If you do - that is unfortunate but not something CCP should consider to balance game mechanics on.
Originally by: Alx Warlord
The automatic return would not mean a 100% safety for the drones, this will not unbalance the game, this will just make the drone users less unhappy with disconnection and server instability problems...
Using drones does have several advantages. Beeing able to reconnect to drones would make drones more powerful.

Why do you think drones should have less drawbacks?

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.21 09:42:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Nika Dekaia
No, it's about you having a bad connection/provider/whatever. I do not happen to have random disconnects. If you do - that is unfortunate but not something CCP should consider to balance game mechanics on.



That i a silly way to look at things, should car manufacturers not put seat belts in cars because it's not the car that crashes, it's the person?

The fact is that ppl get disconnected for a number of reasons and CCP shouldn't punish ppl for being disconnected.

The solution to this problem is simple. If a player disconnects then his drones become inactive and NPC do not see them as a threat and therefor, do not attack. When then player logs back online they should be able to reconnect to drones once on grid and then recall them.


Fermi Tesla
Posted - 2011.07.21 14:20:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Alx Warlord
Every time that i get Disconected I end up with almost all my drones killed by something on a realy unfair way, and this is realy annoying since I have to stop doing my missions and go to a station, browse the market, buy new drones, go get them and only then return to the mission... sometimes, just to have the bad luck to get disconected again...

My sugestion is that when a player get disconected, along the automatic warp-out comand, an automatic return drones command would be sent, as the player would do to warp out if he was connected ("R" key), to give a small chance for the drones came back to the ship, while the ship builds up speed to the warp.
This is just a small change on the game code, but it makes a huge diference preventing allot of stress durring disconection, that i know many players have...

Thank you CCP for your attention!


As a drone user, I endorse this product and/or service.

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.07.21 15:21:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Nika Dekaia
No, it's about you having a bad connection/provider/whatever. I do not happen to have random disconnects. If you do - that is unfortunate but not something CCP should consider to balance game mechanics on.

this!

drones have benefits, they also have drawbacks. If you're facing a lot of random disconnects, switch your provider or stop using drones.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.21 15:53:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Robert Caldera
Originally by: Nika Dekaia
No, it's about you having a bad connection/provider/whatever. I do not happen to have random disconnects. If you do - that is unfortunate but not something CCP should consider to balance game mechanics on.

this!

drones have benefits, they also have drawbacks. If you're facing a lot of random disconnects, switch your provider or stop using drones.


Okay, so how does leaving it the way it is, make eve a better game?

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.07.21 16:04:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Robert Caldera on 21/07/2011 16:04:26
Originally by: Rek Seven

Okay, so how does leaving it the way it is, make eve a better game?

by not removing well thought balance??

Ppl with bad ISP, are really, REALLY the last reason to change anything in game balance.

Phaelex
Posted - 2011.07.21 16:09:00 - [11]
 

I agree this subject

But I think it's better now all drones are there while you reconnected, and all get destroyed in front of your eyes.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.21 16:18:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Robert Caldera
Edited by: Robert Caldera on 21/07/2011 16:04:26
Originally by: Rek Seven

Okay, so how does leaving it the way it is, make eve a better game?

by not removing well thought balance??

Ppl with bad ISP, are really, REALLY the last reason to change anything in game balance.


Ah okay so i'm guessing you don't use drones so you don't really care about the issue...

It has nothing to do with balance. if anything the current system is unbalanced as NPC will attack inactive drones but drones don't defend themselves.

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.07.21 16:57:00 - [13]
 

the balance is plain and simple, you can easily lose them. And it works well.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.21 17:30:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Robert Caldera
the balance is plain and simple, you can easily lose them. And it works well.


Exelent point. did you just think that up on the spot? Laughing

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:01:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 21/07/2011 18:06:15
No. Gallente should have more disadvantages. ALL of the disadvantages. Come to think of it, there's gotta be room for more disadvantages, CCP, I'm certain of it! I personally revel in losing all of my dps when I d/c or simply have to warp out! It is great!

Seriously, no other race can abandon all of their dps in space, short of intentionally jettisoning their ammo.

"Oh hey, my Ogres are gone but I'm sure these remaining five Warrior IIs in my drone bay will suffice when I return, I mean they do 50% more damage(!!!) than those unbonused drones every other ****ing ship on grid is able to use to supplement their turret damage! If not, I'll just drag my plated, trimarked, lump of molasses across the grid, scoop those Ogres and get right back into the action ... five or six minutes later ... if I'm not killed crawling across the grid to get back to them ... and assuming the fight is still in progress by the time I am able deploy them again! Barring that, I guess I could strain to get into blaster range of somebody if I don't cap out in the process! I am credit to team! Gallente 4 lyfe!" -- Any given Gallennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn[SOCKET WAS CLOSED]

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:05:00 - [16]
 

LMAO

Alx Warlord
Posted - 2011.08.05 22:08:00 - [17]
 

See, I'm not the only one that think this way. Everyone knows that drones + Disconnect is a problem, and some people just laugh about it just because they don't use it, don't like it and don't care about it.



 

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