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Foolish Frost
Posted - 2011.07.20 01:22:00 - [1]
 

As the old saying goes, "I have a friend".

And in this case, I do. We were running a mission together, and clearing out some NPC pirates. Simple enough. We cleared the mission space, and were salvaging the area.

After about 10 minutes, we noticed a red blip. Another pirate had appeared. My friend, after drawing in her mining drones, tried to target it.

And then a concord cruiser appeared just long enough to blow her to particles, faded from view, and left me to deal with the pirate.

Now, we know the following:
- We were in mission space.
- We were alone.
- We were not targeting each other.
- She got no warning about "Are you SURE you want to do that?"
- She thinks she may not have gotten a chance to fire yet.
- I killed the pirate afterward with no issues.

We have no idea what she was targeted. Anyone else have an idea? We really need to figure out what we did so it never happens again.

We asked the support team, but they seem to be slow on response. By days.

K'iran
Spirit of EVE
Posted - 2011.07.20 01:25:00 - [2]
 

she lied about what happened, possibly due to not knowing what to do. Also, you CAN disable the "are you sure" message. It really is the only option.

Flakey Foont
Posted - 2011.07.20 02:11:00 - [3]
 

Your sure it was a pirate?

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2011.07.20 02:24:00 - [4]
 


You can go into your ESC menu and see if that message is turned off. If it is - you can then turn it back on.

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Foolish Frost
Posted - 2011.07.20 03:59:00 - [5]
 

I was there, in the RL room, and in the area of space. I can vouch for the fact she didn't lie. Target was red for her and me, "+" on the overview.

And the other fact is, she wouldn't bother to lie. If she wanted to do something, and got blasted for it, that's fine. She just didn't do anything. She never really had time. It happened in about 5 seconds (literally).

The death log shows her killed by a pirate and concord. Nobody else was in system we could see, and she never got a kill for a player.

I just hope a GM actually contacts her. We need to know what we did to trigger that.

mkint
Posted - 2011.07.20 04:23:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Foolish Frost
I was there, in the RL room, and in the area of space. I can vouch for the fact she didn't lie. Target was red for her and me, "+" on the overview.

And the other fact is, she wouldn't bother to lie. If she wanted to do something, and got blasted for it, that's fine. She just didn't do anything. She never really had time. It happened in about 5 seconds (literally).

The death log shows her killed by a pirate and concord. Nobody else was in system we could see, and she never got a kill for a player.

I just hope a GM actually contacts her. We need to know what we did to trigger that.

Your friend had smartbombs or fof missiles or something. Have your friend check mydocs\eve\logs and find the log from that session to see what happened.

Sobaan Tali
Posted - 2011.07.20 05:46:00 - [7]
 

Last I checked, CONCORD usually sends a BS and two cruisers, not a lone cruiser (and WON'T in mission deadspace). Yeah, sounds to me like a glitch. I would recommend a petition if it weren't already done, but it sounds like you did that. All I can say is wait for a response. Sorry to here that.

Foolish Frost
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:55:00 - [8]
 

Nope. Just had hybrid guns.

Found the data in the logs, but it doesn't make sense...

It says she was attacked for attacking a... salvage wreck?
It also says she got the warning, but maybe she got a lucky click in...

Quote:
[ 2011.07.18 17:34:49 ] (notify) Serpentis Scout is too far away to use your Salvager I on, it needs to be closer than 5,000 meters.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:08 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout barely scratches you, causing 1.9 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:13 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:15 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:18 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout barely scratches you, causing 1.6 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:20 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:23 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:25 ] (warning) This action is an attack on your target. Attacking this target is a crime, will result in a security status penalty for you and will bring CONCORD to enforce the law by destroying your ship. <b>CONCORD will kill you!</b><br><br>Do you wish to proceed with this dangerous action?
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:25 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout lightly hits you, doing 2.1 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:28 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.2285.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (notify) Botany Black, Criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Limited Light Neutron Blaster I is well aimed at Coreli Guardian Guard Wreck (Serpentis Small Wreck), inflicting 58.4 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout hits you, doing 2.4 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:33 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout lightly hits you, doing 2.2 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:33 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Limited Light Neutron Blaster I hits Coreli Guardian Guard Wreck (Serpentis Small Wreck), doing 50.4 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:35 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout hits you, doing 3.0 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:36 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Captain lightly hits you, doing 513.3 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:36 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Captain places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 1061.4 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:37 ] (notify) Limited Light Neutron Blaster I deactivates because its target, Coreli Guardian Guard Wreck, is not locked.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:38 ] (notify) CONCORD Police Captain (CONCORD Police Captain) has started trying to warp scramble you!
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:38 ] (notify) CONCORD Police Captain (CONCORD Police Captain) has started trying to warp scramble you!
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:38 ] (combat) Serpentis Scout misses you completely.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:40 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 9.4 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:41 ] (notify) You are already managing 0 targets, as many as your ship's electronics are capable of.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:41 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Captain aims well at you, inflicting 832.5 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:41 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Captain places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 956.2 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:43 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout aims well at you, inflicting 2.9 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:45 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Serpentis Scout aims well at you, inflicting 3.0 damage.
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:47 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Captain places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 1219.0 damage.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2011.07.20 11:14:00 - [9]
 

It happens.

And i think the message will shop up in logs even if it was set as "Never ask me again". So ask her to check her settings.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.20 11:39:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Jose Black on 20/07/2011 11:56:56
Edited by: Jose Black on 20/07/2011 11:50:00
Originally by: Sobaan Tali
Last I checked, CONCORD usually sends a BS and two cruisers, not a lone cruiser (and WON'T in mission deadspace). Yeah, sounds to me like a glitch.
As far as I know what they send depends on what they're up against. And they will show up in deadspace the same way as they do at stations, gates or at random safespots.



Edit: After reading the log you posted it looks like another player entered the deadspace and shot some rats as well. You then attacked one of his wrecks which counts as criminal act. Oh, and why were you shooting wrecks at all?

Edit2: Maybe there was not even another player involved. If you do not belong to the same player corporation you are not allowed to shoot each others wrecks either.

Sir Hillary
Posted - 2011.07.20 13:50:00 - [11]
 

[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Limited Light Neutron Blaster I is well aimed at Coreli Guardian Guard Wreck (Serpentis Small Wreck), inflicting 58.4 damage.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say she had the wreck targeted for salvage, the rat targeted for her guns, and she accidently shot the wreck. The wreck doesn't "belong" to her (I'm going to assume it was flagged as yours), so CONCORD swoop in.

Foolish Frost
Posted - 2011.07.20 13:56:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Sir Hillary
[ 2011.07.18 17:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Limited Light Neutron Blaster I is well aimed at Coreli Guardian Guard Wreck (Serpentis Small Wreck), inflicting 58.4 damage.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say she had the wreck targeted for salvage, the rat targeted for her guns, and she accidently shot the wreck. The wreck doesn't "belong" to her (I'm going to assume it was flagged as yours), so CONCORD swoop in.


Agreed. I'm almost sure that's what happened. Just an odd combination of events leading to an accident that got her zapped. Pity she has to build back up her rep.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.20 14:06:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Foolish Frost
Pity she has to build back up her rep.
Not much lost there.
Actually makes the game quite interesting having people chat you up all the time asking why you're showing up yellow Very Happy.

In terms of game mechanics it's not problematic until you get lower than -2. And especially when blowing up bigger NPC pirates she'll be back into positive values pretty fast.


 

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