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Demolishar
Posted - 2011.07.19 23:44:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Demolishar on 19/07/2011 23:43:57
Redacted.

i am jita
Posted - 2011.07.19 23:52:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Gerald Sphinx

It's like cell phones. Back then, the first cell phone costed over $1,000
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx

cell phone costed over $1,000
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
costed
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
COSTED

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.07.20 00:38:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Zag''mar Jurkar on 20/07/2011 00:38:52
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar

And what about the legit miners like me? I don't want to do missions over missions over missions for just 1 hulk.
Don't mine alone. Don't get ganked.


Don't get ganked? Hmmmm, that seems to require some attention, which is why I am mining. I can do other stuff and still have some incomes. If I'd need to have 100% focus and look at local/warps-in of yellows or high number of ships in my belt, I'd go and do missions as it is as demanding focus-wise and the rewards are greater. And I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this situation.

Doing it with others? What if I'm the lone connected at that moment in my corp? Having people with you is irrelevant to high-sec gankers.

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.07.20 00:39:00 - [34]
 

moar hulks for hulkageddon?


so what happened?
got you one of them nice shiny hulk BPCs and discovered it will costed you more to make one than they costeded on the market?

Gerald Sphinx
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.07.20 01:01:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: i am jita

Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
COSTED



You can be a grammar **** if you like, but there are some cases where I feel that the rules of "irregular verbs" shouldn't apply.

Rhes
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.20 05:00:00 - [36]
 

lol pubbies

Shadowsword
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2011.07.20 06:13:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
It should require Exhumers V to get in Hulk.

Also Hulk should cost about billion ISK.

In the long run billon is nothing, but if your BOT in hulk gets constantly blown up...billion starts to be a lot. Wink



How about you do it yourself instead of counting on CCP?

Buy all supplies of some T2 components, and keep buying them, so their price will raise, and voilą, you got your hulk that cost 1B to build.

Djavo
Midas Tycho
Posted - 2011.07.20 07:24:00 - [38]
 

Once upon a time there was a Hulk, it got smashed in the face by some Thrashers, ha ha ha ha chuckle he he ha ha *cough*

True Story.

Cassiopeia Andromedae
Posted - 2011.07.20 07:51:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
It should require Exhumers V to get in Hulk.

Also Hulk should cost about billion ISK.

In the long run billon is nothing, but if your BOT in hulk gets constantly blown up...billion starts to be a lot. Wink



How about you do it yourself instead of counting on CCP?

Buy all supplies of some T2 components, and keep buying them, so their price will raise, and voilą, you got your hulk that cost 1B to build.
GD you guys should go back into elementry school and start learning reading again.

Cassiopeia Andromedae
Posted - 2011.07.20 07:53:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Titus Phook
Edited by: Titus Phook on 19/07/2011 23:09:43
2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character,
Grab your calculator and do it again. It's about 2 mil what you make.

catinboots
Minmatar
Vintage heavy industries
Posted - 2011.07.20 08:17:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
This sounds more like it's about killmails and tears, not botting.


I agree , this has nothing to do with botters, just griefing and tears, Exhumers and barges are already a favorite target you will only encourage a explosion in the number of gankers and griefers ( one hulkageddon every 6or 8months is more than enough)
High sec should never be 100% safe i agree with that but there should be a limit to griefing as well

Dusty Meg
Posted - 2011.07.20 08:26:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Titus Phook
Edited by: Titus Phook on 19/07/2011 23:09:43
2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character,
Grab your calculator and do it again. It's about 2 mil what you make.


Why dont go go look at the prices. I can make 5 mill an hour with just my main character who isnt even a maxed miner, I double that with my hauler alt and thats with veld when mining the other roids I can get it to 10 mill an hour solo and this is in highsec.

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.07.20 09:56:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Marshiro
ravens mine faster anyways


do it in a kestrel

Oosel
The Riot Formation
KRYSIS.
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:16:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
If a billion ISK were really that easy to come by, do you honestly believe we'd have threads of people crying about AUR prices/vanity item prices?


this is so true sometimes people forget that quite a lot of people play eve socially and dont have the time to make the supposed billions you can earn even more so if you refuse to bow to buying more accounts and play with 1 account

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:30:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Hiroshi Nagasaki
good topic...

oh and BS should require the Cruiser/Frig skill on V too


Actually if it had been like that from the start this game would have been a better place.

My Postman
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:51:00 - [46]
 

IF your logic WOULD be valid, the only ones who can afford (losing) a hulk are bots. Nice move, as every hulk you see MUST be a bot. ConfusedConfused

Cpt Greagor
Caldari
Liquid Relief
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:59:00 - [47]
 

1.1-1.2 bil? Are you crazy? It should be like 90 billion.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.20 11:31:00 - [48]
 

So... the botters switch to covetors. What really changes?

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.20 11:40:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
So... the botters switch to covetors. What really changes?

The way he does it though, botters will be the only people in Hulks.

yodayblack
Posted - 2011.07.20 12:13:00 - [50]
 

quick question before i begin, Have you seen the skill list needed to build a hulk? Its very clear you never mined in one or you are a miner and are ****ed because my hulk can strip your belt and your crappy non mining barge cant even clear a simple roid. prices on the market are based on mats need and skills required. by your logic and math a BS would need to cost over 10 billion do to the insanely large amount of raw mats needed. lets not even go into Cap ships lets just say there would be alot less cap wars if the EVE word used your math skills.

On skills needed to fly a hulk, asking for pilots to train exhumers 5 to fly a hulk is like asking a BS pilot to do the same. yes any decent player will add that to their list down the road anyway to get all the bonuses, the same is with hulks. Most hulk pilots train exhumers to V anyways after getting in a hulk.

learn more about a topic before you try to troll it

0/10

Smokin' Dragon
Astroforge Industries
4U Holdings Inc
Posted - 2011.07.20 12:34:00 - [51]
 

I Smell.....

HULKAGEDDON PART 2

Mukutep
The Freelancer's Mining Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:28:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae

Covetor does have only one purpose, to being thrown into owen to bake a Hulk.



Nah. I've seen quite a few wormhole residents using covetors instead of hulks. Due to the more dangerous nature of wormhole life, the loss of a covetor is much easier to deal with than a hulk.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:42:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Cipher Jones on 20/07/2011 15:42:32
The hulk is one of the least efficient ships in the game. You want it to cost a billion ISK, fine, more than 500% markup.

Why don't you want the more efficient ships in the game to fall under the same category?

Because you fly them?

BC class ships should cost well over a bil by your logic, as 1 hisec drake can easily pull as much isk as any single hulk in the game. Its way more efficient and plenty botable to boot.

Really, whats your logic?

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:47:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 20/07/2011 15:49:05

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
CCP is not responsible for the price of a Hulk.
LOL you fool. CCP states what is required to build one. Blueprints.

They should increase the requirements that with current price level Hulk would cost about 1.1-1.2 B ISK.

Frigs go from 20k up to 200k, cruisers from 2 mil to 6 mil, bc's from 15 to 30, bs's from 70 to 130.

Now mining barge and exhumers have a problem. Covetor does have only one purpose, to being thrown into owen to bake a Hulk.

Also price difference from 20 mil to 185 mil is way too small step. That 185 mil can be mined way too fast in Covetor and the requirement skill wise, Exhumers III, is way too easy.




That's funny, cuz here all this time I thought that players set the Tritanium index themselves... and the only things that affected that index were things like salvage rates (which changed about a year or so ago and caused the index to fluctuate).

Gee, are you saying CCP gets into every trader's account and diddles their Tritanium sell order rates?

I for one, am shocked Shocked

Meldrich
Posted - 2011.07.20 16:30:00 - [55]
 

Can I have a billion, please?
If it's so easy to come by you won't miss it, right?

Cassiopeia Andromedae
Posted - 2011.07.20 16:51:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Mendolus
whatta ****
If CCP would make building requirements higher, hulk sell price would be higher.

Exhumers V would be good time sink, in that time a noob would mine enough to have ISK for Hulk.

It's obvious that Hulk is way too easy to fly and purchased, and that's why BOTS love it. If you would force BOTS into covetors, that would be INSTANT drop of BOT generated mineral flow.

Bots do pay their accounts with PLEX, if they lose more than that per month, it's not profitable to RUN THAT BOT.

There is many components in HULK building requirements that could be increased to much higher level, without creating too much demand to those items and moon goo.

Hulk is cash printing device, nothing else. It should be hard to get.

Casanunda
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.20 16:54:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Titus Phook
Edited by: Titus Phook on 19/07/2011 23:09:43
2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character,
Grab your calculator and do it again. It's about 2 mil what you make.


Personally if I was the OP, I'd go back to school and relearn math, 2 million an hour is a BS figure if it was that little the only people mining would be bots, 3 to 4 million is easily achievable with a solo pilot dumping cargo contents at station, having a hauler alt will put it into the region of 5 to 8 million an hour upwards if you don't die of boredom and don't miss any cycles by taking a smoke, toilet or coffee break. Plenty of spreadsheets out there to prove this point, most use an ideal situation but give a much more believeable ball park figure than the OP.

Cassiopeia Andromedae
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:02:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Casanunda
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Titus Phook
Edited by: Titus Phook on 19/07/2011 23:09:43
2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character,
Grab your calculator and do it again. It's about 2 mil what you make.


Personally if I was the OP, I'd go back to school and relearn math, 2 million an hour is a BS figure if it was that little the only people mining would be bots, 3 to 4 million is easily achievable with a solo pilot dumping cargo contents at station, having a hauler alt will put it into the region of 5 to 8 million an hour upwards if you don't die of boredom and don't miss any cycles by taking a smoke, toilet or coffee break. Plenty of spreadsheets out there to prove this point, most use an ideal situation but give a much more believeable ball park figure than the OP.
Dream on... TRIT IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE..

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:15:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Dream on... TRIT IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE..


It's too late to affect bots by raising hulk prices. At least the major ones... they're already well established with the isk to replace them at a whim. There aren't enough people popping them to be a factor. All this would do at this time is hurt newer players trying to get to a hulk. Well... not "hurt", but slow down.

Besides, if it ever became more profitable to mine in covetors than hulks that's all that would happen... the bots would switch to covetors. I believe your intent is in the right place but that it's too little too late now to make a difference is the way you'd like.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:34:00 - [60]
 

Quote:
Hulk is too easy and cheap


Came here expecting this to be a thread bashing my ex.

Left dissappointed.


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