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TriadSte
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:01:00 - [1]
 

Would it take to get CCP to take their heads of out the sand <--- see what I did there! and give us some decent answers as well as what I feel is well DESERVED compensation for these daily **** ups.

1000?

5000?

10,000?

If CCP was a company with morals and that actually DID strive for excellence it would be just the 1 account, because everyone is important right?

CCP are getting this so so wrong and whats worse as already stated by one of my fellow Eve citizen is that Blizzard [WoW] servers dont act this way.

Where's the commitment gone CCP?

Where's this excellence you speak of?

Your losing right now and its so freaking sad because this game has so much potential and hope. The things you could do is mind blowing if you'd stop treating this game as a test bed for your other projects. We dont have to play but we play and pay because we like Eve. WE DO NOT WANNA PAY for WOD and DUST.

You are driving this game to its absolute death now so take heed and read this post because its how we all feel [I hope]

Get a grip, sort it out.

T'KNaath
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:07:00 - [2]
 

+1

Dr DustRemover
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:07:00 - [3]
 

Doesn't matter, they won't let you unsub!

I just clicked account management to go unsub from this now dead game, and it just errors out.

Kion Clarix
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:21:00 - [4]
 

I demand a free remap for all Rolling Eyes

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:29:00 - [5]
 

And I say to you sir:

Originally by: TriadSte

Get a grip, sort it out.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.07.16 22:33:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dr DustRemover
Doesn't matter, they won't let you unsub!

I just clicked account management to go unsub from this now dead game, and it just errors out.


Let me guess..

ERROR: You don't own a monocle yet.

Nana Ohaya
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:00:00 - [7]
 

I doubt that they would listen to any number of promised unsubs. Claiming that even 1 should be enough is a fairly dumb idea. You will never please everyone, and if you try, you'll end up pleasing nobody.

Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. I see claims of unsubbing as bull**** and view it like a tantrum from a 3 yr old, something to be ignored. CCP should continue what they are doing and look at hard numbers for guidence on how they are doing, not ravings of the lunitic fringe.

As far as how stable servers are, WoW servers do indeed act the same, and even worse (anyone sitting in a loading screen trying to get into the raid instance just to have it kick you out because the server is offline, knows what im talking about). I find Eve to be pretty stable and online a great majority of the time it's expected to be.

Get over your sense of entitlement and what you feel you deserve. I'd like you to point out where CCP made promises on how much uptime the servers would have and use that to make an argument on how you deserve more than what you have received. If you feel like you are not getting what you payed for, quit paying. No need to say that you are quitting, nobody cares. CCP will see it where it really matters, on sub numbers for the month. If you don't plan on quitting, STFU.

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:03:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Nana Ohaya
I doubt that they would listen to any number of promised unsubs. Claiming that even 1 should be enough is a fairly dumb idea. You will never please everyone, and if you try, you'll end up pleasing nobody.

Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. I see claims of unsubbing as bull**** and view it like a tantrum from a 3 yr old, something to be ignored. CCP should continue what they are doing and look at hard numbers for guidence on how they are doing, not ravings of the lunitic fringe.

As far as how stable servers are, WoW servers do indeed act the same, and even worse (anyone sitting in a loading screen trying to get into the raid instance just to have it kick you out because the server is offline, knows what im talking about). I find Eve to be pretty stable and online a great majority of the time it's expected to be.

Get over your sense of entitlement and what you feel you deserve. I'd like you to point out where CCP made promises on how much uptime the servers would have and use that to make an argument on how you deserve more than what you have received. If you feel like you are not getting what you payed for, quit paying. No need to say that you are quitting, nobody cares. CCP will see it where it really matters, on sub numbers for the month. If you don't plan on quitting, STFU.


Thank you, CCP Hilmar

Nana Ohaya
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:05:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Tanaka Sekigahara
Originally by: Nana Ohaya
I doubt that they would listen to any number of promised unsubs. Claiming that even 1 should be enough is a fairly dumb idea. You will never please everyone, and if you try, you'll end up pleasing nobody.

Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. I see claims of unsubbing as bull**** and view it like a tantrum from a 3 yr old, something to be ignored. CCP should continue what they are doing and look at hard numbers for guidence on how they are doing, not ravings of the lunitic fringe.

As far as how stable servers are, WoW servers do indeed act the same, and even worse (anyone sitting in a loading screen trying to get into the raid instance just to have it kick you out because the server is offline, knows what im talking about). I find Eve to be pretty stable and online a great majority of the time it's expected to be.

Get over your sense of entitlement and what you feel you deserve. I'd like you to point out where CCP made promises on how much uptime the servers would have and use that to make an argument on how you deserve more than what you have received. If you feel like you are not getting what you payed for, quit paying. No need to say that you are quitting, nobody cares. CCP will see it where it really matters, on sub numbers for the month. If you don't plan on quitting, STFU.


Thank you, CCP Hilmar


Aww, how cute. Someone learned to regurgitate an overuded meme.

Seven Duce
Posted - 2011.07.17 13:18:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Nana Ohaya
Originally by: Tanaka Sekigahara
Originally by: Nana Ohaya
I doubt that they would listen to any number of promised unsubs. Claiming that even 1 should be enough is a fairly dumb idea. You will never please everyone, and if you try, you'll end up pleasing nobody.

Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. I see claims of unsubbing as bull**** and view it like a tantrum from a 3 yr old, something to be ignored. CCP should continue what they are doing and look at hard numbers for guidence on how they are doing, not ravings of the lunitic fringe.

As far as how stable servers are, WoW servers do indeed act the same, and even worse (anyone sitting in a loading screen trying to get into the raid instance just to have it kick you out because the server is offline, knows what im talking about). I find Eve to be pretty stable and online a great majority of the time it's expected to be.

Get over your sense of entitlement and what you feel you deserve. I'd like you to point out where CCP made promises on how much uptime the servers would have and use that to make an argument on how you deserve more than what you have received. If you feel like you are not getting what you payed for, quit paying. No need to say that you are quitting, nobody cares. CCP will see it where it really matters, on sub numbers for the month. If you don't plan on quitting, STFU.


Thank you, CCP Hilmar


Aww, how cute. Someone learned to regurgitate an overuded meme.


no u suxx!! I win nao Razz

Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
Posted - 2011.07.17 13:27:00 - [11]
 

You'll have better luck screaming at Microsoft to stop developing Windows because you are paying for Xbox Live and only want Xbox stuff.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.07.17 13:31:00 - [12]
 

How many promised unsubs?

Promised?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You losers have already shown how good your promises are.

Still posting. Still in game. Why the hell you expect CCP to pay you the slightest bit of attention is totally beyond me.

Mr Epeen Cool


Seven Sphynx
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:02:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Seven Sphynx on 17/07/2011 14:03:13
Tranquility User Count after Incarna

I think CCP (as well as many here on the forum claiming Incarna had no impact on active users and/or subscriptions) need to stick their head OUT of the sand(box). And no, it is not simply because it is summer: there are way less active players than last year.

Cheers, Seven

Junzar Hoth
Minmatar
Hootie Owl Round-Tip Scissors Club
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:12:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
How many promised unsubs?

Promised?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You losers have already shown how good your promises are.

Still posting. Still in game. Why the hell you expect CCP to pay you the slightest bit of attention is totally beyond me.

Mr Epeen Cool




Some were appeased by the joint statement and re-subbed... didn't you read the thread? Some subs have months left so the ppl still play... Is that so odd? Personally this char ends on the 20th and my other a few days later. I've not played eve since the **** hit the fan because i just can't be bothered any more. And here i am posting in the forumsShocked

You see mr peanut just because someone says they are leaving doesn't necessarily mean they will disappear on the spot. But that's obvious to all but the dumbest of eve's fine players.

You need to give it more time to see what level of effect players leaving has on the game, if any. who can tell at this point.

Nova Kira
Ashes Against The Grain
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:21:00 - [15]
 

I'd like to see a public list of people who are threatening to unsubscribe... and if they don't, then I motion for the rest of the playerbase to mark them all as kill on sight.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Nova Kira
I'd like to see a public list of people who are threatening to unsubscribe... and if they don't, then I motion for the rest of the playerbase to mark them all as kill on sight.


I grant your wish.

Have fun with it.

I do.

Seven Sphynx
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Nova Kira
I'd like to see a public list of people who are threatening to unsubscribe... and if they don't, then I motion for the rest of the playerbase to mark them all as kill on sight.


As you obviously have been living under a rock for the past month, here you go:
Public List of Unsubscibed Accounts
My account expires in September, but please, feel free to KOS me and my other characters right away.
Also, you can check this: Linkage

Cheers, Seven

Nova Kira
Ashes Against The Grain
Posted - 2011.07.17 14:54:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Seven Sphynx
Originally by: Nova Kira
I'd like to see a public list of people who are threatening to unsubscribe... and if they don't, then I motion for the rest of the playerbase to mark them all as kill on sight.


As you obviously have been living under a rock for the past month, here you go:
Public List of Unsubscibed Accounts
My account expires in September, but please, feel free to KOS me and my other characters right away.
Also, you can check this: Linkage

Cheers, Seven


Psh, silly, don't you know that all new players live underneath rocks?

Quotia
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:04:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tanaka Sekigahara


Thank you, CCP Hilmar


PO alt spotted!!!

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:07:00 - [20]
 

there are no plans to unsub

Kidara Malfasian
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:26:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Seven Sphynx
Edited by: Seven Sphynx on 17/07/2011 14:03:13
Tranquility User Count after Incarna

I think CCP (as well as many here on the forum claiming Incarna had no impact on active users and/or subscriptions) need to stick their head OUT of the sand(box). And no, it is not simply because it is summer: there are way less active players than last year.

Cheers, Seven


Your highly scientific and vetted survey is astounding.

SVTNeato
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:42:00 - [22]
 

Honestly getting butthurt isn't going to get you anywhere dude.

TrimethylChromiumdioxide
Caldari
Infinatech
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:48:00 - [23]
 

Sadly it would take a hell of a lot more than are going right now. They're still raking it in, and that's what pays the salaries (of the WOD and Dust developers).

Seven Sphynx
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:49:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Kidara Malfasian
Originally by: Seven Sphynx
Edited by: Seven Sphynx on 17/07/2011 14:03:13
Tranquility User Count after Incarna

I think CCP (as well as many here on the forum claiming Incarna had no impact on active users and/or subscriptions) need to stick their head OUT of the sand(box). And no, it is not simply because it is summer: there are way less active players than last year.

Cheers, Seven


Your highly scientific and vetted survey is astounding.

It is a server user count log, not rocket science. I am sorry if it is confusing for you.

Bayard Carpathi
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:57:00 - [25]
 

Promised unsubscribes mean nothing. Actual lapsed accounts do.

If I felt I had to unsubscribe as a matter of principal that same feeling would prevent me from loggin on as well. Otherwise you might as well be saying "I'm never shopping at that store again, this meat I bought is spoiled, but I'm going to eat it anyway because I have it".

You pay $15 (or Euros) for 30 days game time

That's 0.50 a day, or 0.02 per hour.

I have not counted the crashes and reboots, but lets say there have been 20 of them and they each lasted an hour. CCP. Then owes you about 40 cents of lost game time

OH BOY, how are you going to spend it?

Moon Shadowfall
Posted - 2011.07.17 16:09:00 - [26]
 

Might I suggest playing with the No More Tears Barbie instead of the forums?

Pai Nax
Posted - 2011.07.17 17:26:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Pai Nax on 17/07/2011 17:27:35
The war is over. CCP won.

While I believe that the player's excessive reaction caught them by surprise, it is my feeling that they took the reaction into advisement and kept chugging along as before. The number of actual sub cancellations is still very small compared to threatened unsubs; and still smaller compared to valid subs.

Eve is cyclical. People come and go and then return again. Many will resub at a later date because this game is simply too good and there is no other game like it. (Perpetuum does not count since it is new and mostly made up of unsubbed eve players)

The war is over and beating a dead horse will not get you any gains. Only frustration and heartache.

I don't plan on unsubbing my 2 accounts any time soon.

Posted with my main for maximum effect.

Drae Fokker
Caldari
Burst Of Aggresion
Posted - 2011.07.17 17:34:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Seven Sphynx
Edited by: Seven Sphynx on 17/07/2011 14:03:13
Tranquility User Count after Incarna

I think CCP (as well as many here on the forum claiming Incarna had no impact on active users and/or subscriptions) need to stick their head OUT of the sand(box). And no, it is not simply because it is summer: there are way less active players than last year.

Cheers, Seven


Generally, when posting "evidence" that something has damaged the userbase, it helps to make sure that the trend is drastically different than historical numbers.

It's not.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.07.17 18:34:00 - [29]
 

Seriously, only if it ever gets OVER 8000 SUBS , they might notice.

Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.07.18 05:00:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Brujo Loco
Seriously, only if it ever gets OVER 8000 SUBS , they might notice.


That link doesn't go to youtube, it goes to youtu.be. Is that a malware site or a misspelling? (These days you CAN NOT be too careful)


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