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Katil Khashour
Posted - 2011.07.15 15:59:00 - [1]
 

I'm quite surprised that so many people were raging before about the ridiculous prices and yet after the CSM meeting, everybody calmed down even though nothing changed. The monocle is still ridiculously priced!

No, I don't want any vanity item but it shows how greedy a company is. You would have thought that they would have learned from their mistake and actually brought the price down but they haven't! To me that shows how greedy they are (all evidence is proof to that as well, please refer to the leaked newsletter).

They are apologising for the leaked content but yet they are not doing anything about it... So what good is the apology then?

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:02:00 - [2]
 

meh, we got cheap goggles

everyone that raged about monocles were like "oo something I can buy" and promptly shut up

Templar Knightsbane
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:06:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Templar Knightsbane on 15/07/2011 16:08:55
Edited by: Templar Knightsbane on 15/07/2011 16:08:29
Get with the program, the raging wasnt merely because the NEX store was overpriced, more to do with the fact a leaked internal memo
from CCP stating that future plans for the Aurum currency could include things like purchasing Ships and Faction standings,

along with a leaked email the CEO of CCP declaring that this is a time when CCP look more at what customers do, than what they are saying, the outcome was

CCP have no plans to sell Faction standings or ships for Aurum, or any game changing items (non vanity), and they also said that the
future Nex releases would be at a more reasonable pricing range, so

the monocle wont change price for the people who already have bought one,

CCP wont do any game changing ****

CCP CEO just looks stupid again

what is the point at shooting at the statue anymore???

you tell me, to get cheaper vanity items you wont purchase anyway???



Ps- the leaked content was all "ideas", not definite future plans, it was a discussion, that CCP have to have had, as it is their business, yeah, sweet

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:13:00 - [4]
 

Yes, the prices are criminal. Only idiots would pay such prices! Immoral I say!

Xeln Quuzg
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:15:00 - [5]
 

what's 'nex store'?

Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:15:00 - [6]
 

Well as far as I'm concerned, with the current pricing, I just concider it not even there. The clothing customization could have been a nice additional feature to the game, but oh well back to my ship.

Darth Khasei
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:18:00 - [7]
 

I am fine with WHATEVER the price is for non game effecting VANITY "only" items. These are leisure/status items that I have ZERO use for and do not effect my EVE gameplay in ANY way.

People will pay whatever for whatever and this social experiment is WAI.Laughing

SMX
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:21:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos
Well as far as I'm concerned, with the current pricing, I just concider it not even there. The clothing customization could have been a nice additional feature to the game, but oh well back to my ship.

This.

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:23:00 - [9]
 

Having high priced items isn't in itself a problem. The problem comes from only having high priced items.

I still think they need a tier below their affordable range for new players to be able to participate.

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:24:00 - [10]
 

after the CSM it was clear nothing would gonna change, so ppl stopped raging, are playing out their plexes and will then leave quietly.

Darth Khasei
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:27:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Darth Khasei on 15/07/2011 16:27:45
LOL, check out the price of this item in the RL EVE store vs all the others.
http://store.eveonline.com/EVE-Marmot-Softshell-Jacket-P233.aspx

They are responding to what people do vs what they say.

That items is head above heels higher than anything else in the EVE store and they sell plenty.

Price points are in the eye of the individual buyer.Shocked

Erim Solfara
Amarr
inFluX.
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:34:00 - [12]
 

I'm quite content with them leaving the prices at stupid levels, it means alot fewer people will buy them, and they won't waste time developing more assets for it!

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:59:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Makko Gray
Having high priced items isn't in itself a problem. The problem comes from only having high priced items.

I still think they need a tier below their affordable range for new players to be able to participate.


i feel no need to participate in the buying of nex items.
plex's are for gametime imo. if they added a store where players could invent and or design vanity items and they could be exchanged for isk. id rejoice at ccp's inovation. as it stands its just a money grab to support WOD.
so even if they priced nex crap at 0.01 aux for an item i will not be participating in it. aside from teh fact i wanna blow ships up and not look at my man barbie

Aquana Abyss
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:13:00 - [14]
 

Dont give a monkeys about NeX prices, so long as CCP stick to the promise to never sell non-vanity items.

Uuali
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:17:00 - [15]
 

Goggles good, monocles bad!

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:19:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 15/07/2011 17:31:57
Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 15/07/2011 17:20:27
I am fine with them - hell raise them more... Double or Triple of them for the idiots that buy this stuff... CCP can charge as much as they want to, I will not be buying any at any price and even at free, I would have Zero-Interest in the NeX. So, have at it, soak the fools for every penny and then hire some decent Dev's to make the real part of the game work for the sake of some imaginary deity!!! ugh

Bunch of stupid Foppish Dandies!

When is the Golden Butt-Plug Coming to the NeX? or doesn't that work due to these people having their heads up there asses? Rolling Eyes

Solosky
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:30:00 - [17]
 

Prices isn't the problem - problem is "quality" of items. They are too pale. Where are those glass helmets which forced me to choose Gallente?

(actually I'm afraid they will cost $500-1000 - so I'll have to freeze alt accounts for a year to save for one set of decent clothing for my main)

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:42:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Solosky
Prices isn't the problem - problem is "quality" of items. They are too pale. Where are those glass helmets which forced me to choose Gallente?

(actually I'm afraid they will cost $500-1000 - so I'll have to freeze alt accounts for a year to save for one set of decent clothing for my main)


I'd really love if they actually looked at items like that, that used to be in the old character creator. Would be nice to see some of them reintroduced. As for the cost they'll appear on the market in due course so if you some ISK to burn just buy them from there, in fact selling goggles on the market for profit paid for my set. Very Happy

I think we may have seen the immediate extreme of price for the moment with the monocle and hope we'll see some of the more affordable priced items.

Originally by: Smoking Blunts
i feel no need to participate in the buying of nex items.
plex's are for gametime imo. if they added a store where players could invent and or design vanity items and they could be exchanged for isk. id rejoice at ccp's inovation. as it stands its just a money grab to support WOD.
so even if they priced nex crap at 0.01 aux for an item i will not be participating in it. aside from teh fact i wanna blow ships up and not look at my man barbie


Well that's fine, some people don't want to mine just as some don't want to go play in 0.0 or low sec.

Personally I'd have thought those who use PLEX for game time would be happy at the high prices, certainly as the NEX store is effectively the first PLEX sink (aside from blowing them up).

The fact that CCP have gone in with high prices to make sure it doesn't inflate the PLEX price too much I would have thought would be something that those who use ISK to buy PLEX would be grateful for (though I understand not introducing a PLEX sink at all would please some people more).

As for it being a money grab to support their business, well that's what businesses do - make money! And just as EVE will fund WoD and DUST these will in turn fund other games, or even future development of EVE. Also in this case they're not forcing anyone to take part in buying virtual items, they've even offered and in game way of accumulating the items, it's simply their for those that want to make use of it.

Personally I've played this game for a few years and tried most everything with varying levels of success, I even like to role play a little and play in character from time to time and NEX offers one more way for me to help develop my character in the game if I choose to use it.

Now that we know there's going to be no game changing items my biggest concern is making sure CCP deliver content affordable to newer players so they can take part. Other than those that have no interest in it can already choose not to use it.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:43:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Makko Gray
Having high priced items isn't in itself a problem. The problem comes from only having high priced items.

I still think they need a tier below their affordable range for new players to be able to participate.

this

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:46:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Makko Gray
Originally by: Solosky
Prices isn't the problem - problem is "quality" of items. They are too pale. Where are those glass helmets which forced me to choose Gallente?

(actually I'm afraid they will cost $500-1000 - so I'll have to freeze alt accounts for a year to save for one set of decent clothing for my main)


I'd really love if they actually looked at items like that, that used to be in the old character creator. Would be nice to see some of them reintroduced. As for the cost they'll appear on the market in due course so if you some ISK to burn just buy them from there, in fact selling goggles on the market for profit paid for my set. Very Happy

I think we may have seen the immediate extreme of price for the moment with the monocle and hope we'll see some of the more affordable priced items.

Originally by: Smoking Blunts
i feel no need to participate in the buying of nex items.
plex's are for gametime imo. if they added a store where players could invent and or design vanity items and they could be exchanged for isk. id rejoice at ccp's inovation. as it stands its just a money grab to support WOD.
so even if they priced nex crap at 0.01 aux for an item i will not be participating in it. aside from teh fact i wanna blow ships up and not look at my man barbie


Well that's fine, some people don't want to mine just as some don't want to go play in 0.0 or low sec.

Personally I'd have thought those who use PLEX for game time would be happy at the high prices, certainly as the NEX store is effectively the first PLEX sink (aside from blowing them up).

The fact that CCP have gone in with high prices to make sure it doesn't inflate the PLEX price too much I would have thought would be something that those who use ISK to buy PLEX would be grateful for (though I understand not introducing a PLEX sink at all would please some people more).

As for it being a money grab to support their business, well that's what businesses do - make money! And just as EVE will fund WoD and DUST these will in turn fund other games, or even future development of EVE. Also in this case they're not forcing anyone to take part in buying virtual items, they've even offered and in game way of accumulating the items, it's simply their for those that want to make use of it.

Personally I've played this game for a few years and tried most everything with varying levels of success, I even like to role play a little and play in character from time to time and NEX offers one more way for me to help develop my character in the game if I choose to use it.

Now that we know there's going to be no game changing items my biggest concern is making sure CCP deliver content affordable to newer players so they can take part. Other than those that have no interest in it can already choose not to use it.


surely the first plex sink is actual game time. no im not so happy about aur **** being linked to plex's. i pay my accounts with plex so now i have to pay more. if i was some poor grunt that actually had to hard grind isk it would be an issue. and id bet thats why less accounts are online now.
**** affordible man barbie junk. we pay a sub in plex or in cash, that should be enough for them.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:54:00 - [21]
 

The players who aren't okay with it have unsubbed - like me.

We're no longer going to bleat our cause to the uncaring ears of :CCP: seeing as according to thou lord and overseer Adolf Hilmar, our words are not as truthful as our actions.

And, in a year, if EVE is still around and if the NeX store has had more content developed for it than any other part of Incarna, I'll use the five day reactivation to laugh at people.

If the above does not happen, I'll simply go back to trolling people for a few days.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:55:00 - [22]
 

Completely without troll: Couldn't care less. I have never and will never buy MT items.

Sarina Berghil
Minmatar
New Zion Judge Advocate
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.07.16 00:15:00 - [23]
 

I unsubbed due to CCPs incompetence for the last couple of years. The NeX shop and Incarna just confirmed my suspicion that this game will never go anywhere, or reach a state beyond early beta quality.

It's a damn shame because the original framework is one of the best ideas ever, but CCP is not the company able to give it the treatment it deserves.

Paperclip Tank
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.16 03:42:00 - [24]
 

They don't give anything positive, which is all I care about. And I'm not buying any, useful or not. People need to stop complaining about it. They should be complaining about what it might become, or actually important things. Not "oh I can't afford a stupid eyepiece"

Tarinara
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:32:00 - [25]
 

Prices are far, far too low. Anyone who can afford to shell out $15.00 USD/month for a damn computer game should be able to pay 4, 5 or 6 times that amount ( more even I say ) for a junky looking piece of digital crap that does nothing and can be destroyed when they get podded. Anyone who understands wearing $1000 designer jeans understands this.

Just think of how happy you'll feel when your friends ask you: "You paid how much for that and then it got blown up?!"...

clamslayer
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:43:00 - [26]
 

Stop complaining, if you don't like what ccp is doing then go play world of Warcraft.

I'm with ccp ceo, all the pouting and crying does not mean s**t, if you want to send a message then quit. Otherwise stop complaining.

Ccp created Eve, and if ccp want to run it into the ground they have every right to.

Dr DustRemover
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:46:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: clamslayer
Stop complaining, if you don't like what ccp is doing then go play world of Warcraft.

I'm with ccp ceo, all the pouting and crying does not mean s**t, if you want to send a message then quit. Otherwise stop complaining.

Ccp created Eve, and if ccp want to run it into the ground they have every right to.


If I don't like what CCP is doing, I have every right to complain about it. Where did I sign that I can't complain about it? Is it in the EULA? If so, please quote it for me.

Henrica Gaufridus
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:55:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Katil Khashour
I'm quite surprised that so many people were raging before about the ridiculous prices and yet after the CSM meeting, everybody calmed down even though nothing changed. The monocle is still ridiculously priced!

No, I don't want any vanity item but it shows how greedy a company is. You would have thought that they would have learned from their mistake and actually brought the price down but they haven't! To me that shows how greedy they are (all evidence is proof to that as well, please refer to the leaked newsletter).

They are apologising for the leaked content but yet they are not doing anything about it... So what good is the apology then?


It calmed down because CCP stated, officially, that it didn't plan on p2w and that lower-priced items would be introduced into the NEX. As for the monocle prices... who cares? I never wanted one even on SiSi, as I thought they were rather cheesy looking. On TQ, they've become what monocles were: A tacky display of (virtual) wealth.

All the above-mentioned issues were discussed, addressed, discussed, and repeatedly discussed (to varying degrees). I recommend reading the join CCP-CSM statements in regards to Incarna, and the corresponding threads.

clamslayer
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:57:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Dr DustRemover
Originally by: clamslayer
Stop complaining, if you don't like what ccp is doing then go play world of Warcraft.

I'm with ccp ceo, all the pouting and crying does not mean s**t, if you want to send a message then quit. Otherwise stop complaining.

Ccp created Eve, and if ccp want to run it into the ground they have every right to.


If I don't like what CCP is doing, I have every right to complain about it. Where did I sign that I can't complain about it? Is it in the EULA? If so, please quote it for me.


When did I say you can't complain? I never did. instead of pouting like a little girl, and continuing to pay your 15 bux or more a month to the evil ccp, you should trade your pilots license in for a staff of lightening and a robe of... F***ing magicery.

Again ccp is more concerned about what players do, rather than what players say. It's brilliant stance. Ccp knows most players are p***ies who will continue to pay their subscription and complain, than quit.

I'm definitely in ccp's corner

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.16 05:01:00 - [30]
 

I never had a problem with the pricing. Still don't. But if some people want to rage at the right people for the wrong reason, I can't say I'm terribly bothered by that. It does contribute somewhat to the problem of the protest not having a coherent message, though.


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