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AndreaMena
Minmatar
Tanuki Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:09:00 - [1]
 

Ok here is the thing. . .first time I was 50km away from station looking for targets of opportunity in a stealth bomber. I suddenly randomly uncloak and get to make a wtf run gateway


Another time I am on a gate. . . and I also randomly uncloak as soon as this enemy guy from alliance X (no names. . but guess) starts aligning towards me. Get popped before I get chance to warp off :/


So were did I go wrong? I was nowere near anything that could uncloak me. . .I had at least 5km around me clear :/

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:15:00 - [2]
 

I had random decloaks too 2 times, was nothing in range what could have decloaked me, weird :-/

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:21:00 - [3]
 

How did he know to align to you if you were cloaked?

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:29:00 - [4]
 

wallhack

Cailan Theirin
Outer Ring Marauders
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:31:00 - [5]
 

Only thing I can think of is that you may have misjudged your distance. It's easy to get de-cloaked on a gate, if someone jumps through, and pops up behind you. You may not even notice they're there, and it de-cloaks you. Don't forget either, drones, containers etc can break your cloak. I try to leave around 10km just to be safe when I'm flying cov-ops.

Hope it helps,
-Cailan

AndreaMena
Minmatar
Tanuki Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.07.14 22:34:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Cailan Theirin
Only thing I can think of is that you may have misjudged your distance. It's easy to get de-cloaked on a gate, if someone jumps through, and pops up behind you. You may not even notice they're there, and it de-cloaks you. Don't forget either, drones, containers etc can break your cloak. I try to leave around 10km just to be safe when I'm flying cov-ops.

Hope it helps,
-Cailan


Thank you for your kind advice. I did have this happening to me before. This time I am 100% sure there was nothing around me so I have no idea how the hell it happened.


And yes I do have ppl randomly approaching me while cloaked. Once this dramiel guy sped into me and bumped me. . .decloaked me and his friends popped me. I thought it was a lucky bump. Second time I saw this happen I just ran before he bumped me. . .

Guess some people can see more than the common pilots Rolling Eyes

Miar Bryne
Posted - 2011.07.15 00:10:00 - [7]
 

did you have biomass selected on overview? it could have been a corpse...

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.07.15 00:35:00 - [8]
 

corpses dont decloak anymore for ages

Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
Posted - 2011.07.15 05:11:00 - [9]
 

happened to me 70 km off anything in a belt. Petitioned. The logs, they showed nothing.

VKhaun Vex
Posted - 2011.07.15 05:38:00 - [10]
 

What about probes?

I have been playing around with scan probes lately and suddenly realized they're physical items in space when I launch them around me. I usually had the map up when I started but this time I was looking at something while launching them.

Do you have probes on your overview?
Can they uncloak you?

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2011.07.15 05:51:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Zey Nadar on 15/07/2011 07:38:56
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 15/07/2011 05:53:09
Originally by: Lady Spank
How did he know to align to you if you were cloaked?


I have had this happen to our target when I was part of a roam in fountain. Our fleet was hanging at a gate waiting for a ship that our scout had noticed to jump thru. He did, and pretty much immediately he had jumped he appeared on overview BUT we couldnt lock him. He was unmoving (waiting in his gatecloak) in space visible, and we could approach him, but we couldn't lock him.

Needless to say moving toward him made him 'uncloak' and we could lock him, and he went down quickly after that. One of our guys theorized that he was actually supposed to have been gatecloaked, which is the why we couldnt lock him, but he was still actually visible in the overview at least and we could still approach him.

In case the guy sent a petition, this happened in P5-EFH, 2011-07-11 17:35:00. I would confirm that there was something fishy going on.

EDIT: May have been PNQY-Y
Date: 2011-07-11 17:22:00
I dont really remember which kill it was.

edit: Vkhaun Vex: probes are physical objects and visible on the grid and overview if you have those settings on. And yes they can uncloak you.

AndreaMena
Minmatar
Tanuki Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.07.15 06:16:00 - [12]
 

Now this is wierd because this all happened in Fountain for me as well. . .

And I did not have just jumped so no gatecloak both when I was near the gate and also when I was near station.

Will send a petition and see if there is some wierd bugs going on.


Also. Corpses DO decloak you because I had that happen to me recently while scooping up a corpse (Hey I wanna keep track of my prizes)Wink

Chimaira wolf
Minmatar
The innocent criminals
Posted - 2011.07.15 11:48:00 - [13]
 

I had random uncloaks too. nothing around me but kept uncloaking after i cloaked for 2 seconds.

Fkn game is broken ATM and ppl are leaving like some kind of migration.

minuseb
Posted - 2011.07.15 13:23:00 - [14]
 

i experienced some sudden uncloaks with a stealh bomber
i was warping cloaked to a safe spot close to a planet and when decelerating i "entered" that planet, on the other side of the planet i wasnt cloaked anymore

Mara Abraham
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.07.15 14:08:00 - [15]
 

Good day:

This happened to me last night when I was close to 200km from a gate, just slow boating to a celestial in the opposite direction. Nothing nearby to uncloak, and all of a sudden uncloaked.

Thank you.

Bossanova Widya
Posted - 2011.07.15 14:35:00 - [16]
 

Apparently DCing causes you to decloak.. perhaps you DCd.. but was unaware, because you was AFK

AndreaMena
Minmatar
Tanuki Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.07.15 15:57:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Bossanova Widya
Apparently DCing causes you to decloak.. perhaps you DCd.. but was unaware, because you was AFK



Lol no I confirm that I was neither AFK nor disconnected.

Infront of station. . .random decloak infront of a whole fleet. . .I gtfo due to the fact that 9second recloak time is enough to get targets on me and fire and grind a Purifier into pulp. . .


On the gate it was a different story. Random decloak and a wtfbbq moment as I get pwned by a caldari HAC which was long range fitted.

Mara Abraham
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:31:00 - [18]
 

Good day:

No disconnect involved. Not afk.

Thank you.

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:05:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Drykor on 15/07/2011 17:05:08
Originally by: AndreaMena
Originally by: Cailan Theirin
Only thing I can think of is that you may have misjudged your distance. It's easy to get de-cloaked on a gate, if someone jumps through, and pops up behind you. You may not even notice they're there, and it de-cloaks you. Don't forget either, drones, containers etc can break your cloak. I try to leave around 10km just to be safe when I'm flying cov-ops.

Hope it helps,
-Cailan


Thank you for your kind advice. I did have this happening to me before. This time I am 100% sure there was nothing around me so I have no idea how the hell it happened.


And yes I do have ppl randomly approaching me while cloaked. Once this dramiel guy sped into me and bumped me. . .decloaked me and his friends popped me. I thought it was a lucky bump. Second time I saw this happen I just ran before he bumped me. . .

Guess some people can see more than the common pilots Rolling Eyes


What probably happened is you jumped into a new system, uncloaked from your jump cloak, then quickly recloaked. However, in the second you're uncloaked someone can hit approach on you. Once you cloak that approach stops, but if they manually set their speed to full again and they're quick about it, they'll still head towards your direction.

Sedusia
Gallente
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.15 22:07:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: AndreaMena
Now this is wierd because this all happened in Fountain for me as well. . .

And I did not have just jumped so no gatecloak both when I was near the gate and also when I was near station.

Will send a petition and see if there is some wierd bugs going on.


Also. Corpses DO decloak you because I had that happen to me recently while scooping up a corpse (Hey I wanna keep track of my prizes)Wink


I had this same think happen to me in Fountain twice. Was off a station at about 250km and there I go uncloaking with hostiles at the station. Happened a few weeks ago and I wasnt paying attention and got popped from a sniper ship. Something defiantly to this.

xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2011.07.16 06:52:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: AndreaMena
Ok here is the thing. . .first time I was 50km away from station looking for targets of opportunity in a stealth bomber. I suddenly randomly uncloak and get to make a wtf run gateway


Another time I am on a gate. . . and I also randomly uncloak as soon as this enemy guy from alliance X (no names. . but guess) starts aligning towards me. Get popped before I get chance to warp off :/


So were did I go wrong? I was nowere near anything that could uncloak me. . .I had at least 5km around me clear :/


Corpses..... factional navy (if in empire), billboards, just about anything will uncloak you. Corpses are especially nasty obstacles since if you dont have them showing on overview its pretty much impossible to spot them.


xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2011.07.16 06:54:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Robert Caldera
corpses dont decloak anymore for ages


Yes, they can. As with most other objects though, sometimes you can approach one when already cloaked and it wont decloak you. Just as sometimes you can plow right into a gate and not decloak, or sometimes you can warp into a POS forcefield and not decloak,etc.

Anndy
Caldari
Segmentum Solar
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.07.16 12:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Zey Nadar
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 15/07/2011 07:38:56
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 15/07/2011 05:53:09
Originally by: Lady Spank
How did he know to align to you if you were cloaked?


I have had this happen to our target when I was part of a roam in fountain. Our fleet was hanging at a gate waiting for a ship that our scout had noticed to jump thru. He did, and pretty much immediately he had jumped he appeared on overview BUT we couldnt lock him. He was unmoving (waiting in his gatecloak) in space visible, and we could approach him, but we couldn't lock him.

Needless to say moving toward him made him 'uncloak' and we could lock him, and he went down quickly after that. One of our guys theorized that he was actually supposed to have been gatecloaked, which is the why we couldnt lock him, but he was still actually visible in the overview at least and we could still approach him.

In case the guy sent a petition, this happened in P5-EFH, 2011-07-11 17:35:00. I would confirm that there was something fishy going on.

EDIT: May have been PNQY-Y
Date: 2011-07-11 17:22:00
I dont really remember which kill it was.

edit: Vkhaun Vex: probes are physical objects and visible on the grid and overview if you have those settings on. And yes they can uncloak you.


i saw the exact same thing about a week ago, couldn't lock but could still see him on overview except in our case we couldn't decloak i was about 500m from him then when he got within jump range he decloaked about 5km away from me

Ronan Connor
Posted - 2011.07.16 18:21:00 - [24]
 

Couldn't be some kind of botting technique?

Some bots work by cracking the data stream between ccp and the client. What if someone could read out your position?

MisterRiz
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:22:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: MisterRiz on 20/07/2011 17:22:35
Edited by: MisterRiz on 20/07/2011 17:22:04
Sorry to bump but I noticed it's pretty recent. There is definitely some issue going on here, I also thought I'd missed stuff that isn't on my overview. However I've just been sat orbiting a wormhole at 90 for a while - nothing has come onto the grid, nothing other than the hole on overview after hitting select all - and I just uncloaked again

For some reason it still only happens when the ship is moving. I never happens when I leave my ship motionless.

Strecs Moliko
Posted - 2011.07.20 17:26:00 - [26]
 

I lost a mant to this crap. Was 10km under a station lining up a bomb run on a goons fleet when I was decloaked by nothing. Soon at it happened I checked my distance to other ships and the station. Nothing near me.

Cyzlaki
Targeted Aggression
Posted - 2011.07.20 21:15:00 - [27]
 

Sorry guys. I've been cloaked for hours AFK, as well as hours while I was at the PC over the last few days. Ship moving, not moving. Haven't been decloaked once. Gotta assume y'all either talking out your asses or are getting uncloaked for a legitimate reason. Rolling Eyes

Cattegirn
Intellectual Wookies
Posted - 2011.07.21 18:14:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Cyzlaki
Sorry guys. I've been cloaked for hours AFK, as well as hours while I was at the PC over the last few days. Ship moving, not moving. Haven't been decloaked once. Gotta assume y'all either talking out your asses or are getting uncloaked for a legitimate reason. Rolling Eyes


There it is fellas. It hasn't happened to Cyzlaki so it must be false.

/thread

CARB0N FIBER
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:12:00 - [29]
 

Working as intended STFU!

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:42:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Zey Nadar

I have had this happen to our target when I was part of a roam in fountain. Our fleet was hanging at a gate waiting for a ship that our scout had noticed to jump thru. He did, and pretty much immediately he had jumped he appeared on overview BUT we couldnt lock him. He was unmoving (waiting in his gatecloak) in space visible, and we could approach him, but we couldn't lock him.


This has been around for some time now, think it came with Incarna but might have been an earlier patch even.


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