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ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:37:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ChromeStriker on 13/07/2011 10:24:24

o/ hi,

So the new Maller models out and personally i think it looks awesome, however as most of you will know the ship, in its self, is... well... underwhelming.
From what i know...

Its good points:
1x Very hard armour tank
1x Typical huge amarr capacitor
1x Weapon versitality
1x Unliklyhood of getting primaried

...looking good so far...

Its Bad points:
1x S l o....w
1x S... l .... o .... w
1x Poor damage proflile
1x Battleship allign tyme

... and it crashes and burns...

So to sum up, because of these few, albeit quite important, flaws, a good looking ship has been put on the back shelf of the hanger for the rare occations where a pilot wants to do a lv1 or 2 mission (not particularly quickly), or needs an obvious bait ship.

What has this got to do with me, i hear you ask? Well good, kind, generous, people of the forums, im asking you for your fits, stories, and ideas to redeem this ship in the eyes of the masses because il be S**t faced before i figure it out?

To start things off i put together what i concider to be the cooki cutter fits:

[Maller, Maller PvP]

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Warp Disruptor I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
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[Maller, Maller PvE]
Energized Reflective Membrane II
Damage Control II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Medium Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

they might not be everyones cup of tea so flame on lets get the maller sorted!

Edit: spellingks

Jace81
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:58:00 - [2]
 

A maller with some teeth but hey with out being primary it could actually get in range and do some damage in a fleet. Shocked

[Maller, sumtinelse]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]

Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Gibbo3771
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:59:00 - [3]
 

its slow cause you have a ****ing Ab on it you tard.

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.13 10:14:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Gibbo3771
its slow cause you have a ****ing Ab on it you tard.


Really you think? do you not think there might be REASON behind that? shesh i expected someTM trolling but thats just down right stupid

ColdNLD
Posted - 2011.07.13 10:22:00 - [5]
 

He's actually helping me so comon be kindRazz

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:04:00 - [6]
 

everyone knows the maller is brickbait, and here is what i stole from BC...

[Maller, Bait Maller 98k EHP]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Warp Scrambler II
Warp Disruptor II
10MN Afterburner II

Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/28254-Bait-Maller-98k-EHP.html#ixzz1Ryxa1SKD

Personally i liked the smooth clean curves of the original, but from what i see i'm in the minority
Sad

Buzzmong
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:28:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Skippermonkey
Personally i liked the smooth clean curves of the original, but from what i see i'm in the minoritySad


Indeed. Not that new one is bad at all (it's rather awesome tbh), there was nothing majorly wrong with the previous version. The new one is also quite jarring in comparison to other Amarr ships, notably the battleships and bigger who all have sweeping curves. Obviously the latter is probably temporary as CCP are redesigning everything (just slowly).

Tbqfh, if someone at CCP had said "We're redesigning a ship due to a new variation being the Alliance Tourney reward" before hand, I'd never in a million years have put money on the Maller being the one getting a facelift.

Oooooh Aaaaah
Posted - 2011.07.13 14:08:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jace81
A maller with some teeth but hey with out being primary it could actually get in range and do some damage in a fleet.




Shocked A Maller with blasters - now that's like vomiting on poo.
If someone considers using a Maller (because of severe braindamage due to asphyxia or whatever reason), use autocannons - better damage projection due to better tracking and entirely capless with free choice of damagetypes and far less demanding on grid.
(fun fact: AC's will also outdamage pulses on any laserboat without a ROF/Damagebonus except for a small window when using scorch).

Stories about Mallers the OP asked for: Whenever I FC a small gang and some coward shows up in a maller, I either call them primary immediately or put them somewhere as bait without any intention to show up in case someone took it.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.07.13 18:16:00 - [9]
 

Maller is crap. It does gimmick fits only and that badly compared to alternatives.

Rupture fit using autos gives you tank slightly better than the actual Rupture but with 30-40% less damage, no drones, worse mobility and only one utility.
Decent enough with small lasers (MPII) and the fattest buffer in existence, but a brick with sharp edges is a still a brick.

Give it 10-15% more base cap and change laser-cap bonus to damage (ie. like the Abaddon). Sorted!

Rania Serlia
Endless Destruction
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.07.13 18:58:00 - [10]
 

I quite like the idea of having a mini baddon flying about.Very Happy

Currently it suffers from the same thing the prophecy does which is mainly having a rep as a cheap and tough bait ship. This can be a good thing, and can be a bad thing but mainly it's true in this case, the only way to erk any kind of dps out of it is to use blasters since it has no dronebay, and blasters are really hard on it's meagre cpu.

With lasers on it it, it is no doubt about it top of class, but the other amarr T1 cruisers are terrible with either the why would I ever fit lasers(arbi), or how can I fit lazors and anything else syndromes(omen).
Omen outdamages it(granted, less ehp than a punisher), arbitrator out everything elses it(Arbitrator hull is <3 though). Thus the maller's reputation is being a brick with small guns and autocannons to bait people into aggro. Since the threat level is so low most good pilots won't fall for it. Thus I propose the best way to take advantage of this:

[Maller, suicidemachine]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Faint Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I

12,081 ehp(pretty good for a 1 slot tank), 395 dps overloaded, 28+7.5km range with scorch. Good mobility, decent dps, fair tracking and a neut(small granted), and full tackle in a package that has a somewhat deserved reputation for mediocrity. Is it as good as a rupture? No. But surprise factor does count for a lot here.


Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 19:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Give it 10-15% more base cap and change laser-cap bonus to damage (ie. like the Abaddon). Sorted!

Same with the Prophecy, then it might actually be a competitor to the Harbinger which I would like to have it's bonus replaced with a 10% Optimal Bonus so it isn't a sub par Cane.

ColdNLD
Posted - 2011.07.13 19:46:00 - [12]
 

Ok so the Maller is **** but which will be better from the Amarr cruisers(fit for that one please)? And yeah the next ship will be the Abbadon so fits for that one is appreciated 2 =3

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 19:54:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: ColdNLD
Ok so the Maller is **** but which will be better from the Amarr cruisers(fit for that one please)?

I use these a lot, they are no end of fun.

[Arbitrator, Gang Support]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior I x5
Hammerhead I x2
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x1

[Arbitrator, Combet]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior I x5
Hammerhead I x2
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x1

There is no one use, I have flown duel web, 4 nuets, Medium Nuet, Armor RR for a friend(killed a Rannis). There is no end of the ways you can fit this ship but the above 2 are my favorite.

ColdNLD
Posted - 2011.07.13 19:58:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ColdNLD
Ok so the Maller is **** but which will be better from the Amarr cruisers(fit for that one please)? And yeah the next ship will be the Abbadon so fits for that one is appreciated 2 =3

O forgot I do missions I hate pvp:)

grumpyguts1
Posted - 2011.07.14 01:23:00 - [15]
 

I have used this before.. not the best idea but makes it fun, works like a charm as no one expects you to do any damage..
Its good to switch between these if you facing the same opponents regularly as they will never be sure...

[Maller, Neutron M4]

Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I_2, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I_2, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I_2, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I_2, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I_2, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I_2
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator_2
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive_1

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II_2
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II_2
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II_2
Power Diagnostic System II_2
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I_2
Adaptive Nano Plating II_2

Medium Ancillary Current Router I_2
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I_2
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I_2

Cap stable with 1 neut running, try not to neut and nos the same person though..

[Maller, Tackle]

200mm AutoCannon II_2
200mm AutoCannon II_2
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction_2
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction_2
Small Nosferatu II_2
Small Nosferatu II_2

X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator_2
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I_2
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator_2

Damage Control II_2
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II_2
Reactor Control Unit II_2
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I_2
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I_2
Reactor Control Unit II_2

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I_2
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I_2
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I_2






Dorah Hawkwing
Old Galactic Earth Regiment
Dragoon Federation
Posted - 2011.07.23 11:03:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Dorah Hawkwing on 23/07/2011 11:07:18
With some RCU II's, you can fit 2 large smarties to the Maller. It's the T1 cruiser with the biggest grid after all. aadd a few small projectile weapons to make you apear as the standard bait setup, and let the fun commence.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.23 11:24:00 - [17]
 

[Maller, pro]
Damage Control II
Medium Automated I Carapace Restoration
Medium Automated I Carapace Restoration
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Tracking Enhancer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Mini T
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.07.23 12:35:00 - [18]
 

Tried so hard to like this shp and find a fit that had some use. Not so much. Great looking, joy to fly, fail in a fight.

It sucks that of all the good/useful ships that could use some cosmetic improvement, this was the one selected.

I am just ready to see a new ship or ship line to mix up ths standard-standard.


 

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