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Khamelean
Posted - 2011.07.13 08:56:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Khamelean on 13/07/2011 09:03:55
ooh ooh, shall we play "Antagonise the fringe lunatics" or "Marginalise the whiny babies"?

So many ways to play. That's why I love eve :)

EDIT: To the OP, which are you? fringe lunatic or whiny baby? Only way you could possibly be offended is if you fit in to one of those categories and feel marginalised/antagonised by mittins' statement.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:01:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Strecs Moliko
Originally by: Captain's Courageous
Vote of No Confidence in CSM


I think I saw this movie, she has two kids and dies in the end.


Best reply to any topic EVER!!!

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:11:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Eyup Mi'duck

4/4ths of the non-American player base hasn't got a clue what you are on about? Rolling Eyes


Not true - I can for example tell you that the Tea Party are a bunch of looney toon soccer mums who'd rather believe 'facts' they make up themselves to fit their own ideals rather than what could be reasonably proven.

But whether there anything more to them than that I dunno. Besides EVE is not the best place to talk politics, even of the bat**** nuts kind.

Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:25:00 - [34]
 

oh the whiners.
srsly send me all your stuff on the way out.

if you really want cheap monocles so badly go for second life.

i'd rather shrug at designer g-string thongs for 10 plex worth of aurum. if that helps to pay for devs to get 0.0 fixes sooner.

and all that while having a free laugh and pointing fingers at ppl buying the meaningless vanity stuff.


YOU ARE PATHETIC AND CHILDISH.
NOW FLAME ON! Twisted Evil

Ramma Lamma DingDong
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:42:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Ramma Lamma DingDong on 13/07/2011 09:42:28
Educated, intelligent Americans (granted it may seem as if there are few of them) don't take the teabaggers seriously at all.

I mean come on, it's a party that supports people such as Michelle Bachman, a candidate who doesn't know the difference between John Wayne and John Gacy and who along with her husband runs a clinic that "converts" homosexuals.

She warned us all that The Lion King was "g a y" propoganda.
She claimed abolishing the minimum wage would create jobs.
She called Carbon Dioxide, "harmless."
She suggested that Melissa Ethridge, a well known lesbian artist "repent" after getting cancer.

Sadly, there is a portion of American society that buys a ticket to ride this crazy train but the majority are just watching and waiting for the inevitable crash. The Republicans bought a ticket early on and are currently trying to get off at the next stop after realizing the depth of the crazy (and believe me, it is deep.)





Cebraio
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:48:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Captain's CourageousOver
1/4th of Americans identify themselves with the Tea Party,
[citation needed]


Also, post with your main.

Spookyjay
Caldari
Animosity.
Posted - 2011.07.13 09:53:00 - [37]
 

I think the csm is probably as out of touch and deluded as some of the ccp staff who feel $1000+ are needed as a micro transaction in a spaceship game

Kaethe Kollwitz
Posted - 2011.07.13 10:44:00 - [38]
 

The csm represents 14 out of every 100 eve players as that is the percentage that voted.

no more, no less.

I didnt vote because as far as I can tell, like all politicians everywhere the CSM primarily serves first itself, then CCP and lastly the players.

so in short it doesnt matter if you have no confidence in them - what are you going to do? replace them with another group of people that 86 out of every 100 eve players dont care about, who will be just the same as the current CSM?

let them get on with it, in the end you either like EvE and pay or you dont and you dont!

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.07.13 10:47:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
The csm represents 14 out of every 100 eve players as that is the percentage that voted.

no more, no less.

I didnt vote because as far as I can tell, like all politicians everywhere the CSM primarily serves first itself, then CCP and lastly the players.

so in short it doesnt matter if you have no confidence in them - what are you going to do? replace them with another group of people that 86 out of every 100 eve players dont care about, who will be just the same as the current CSM?

let them get on with it, in the end you either like EvE and pay or you dont and you dont!


Sounds like we need an electoral reform candidate for the next CSM election. I wonder if the character name Nick Clegg is taken...

T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Posted - 2011.07.13 10:47:00 - [40]
 

should have voted serious IP :P


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:00:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 13/07/2011 11:03:01
Originally by: Captain's Courageous
Recently, the CSM has, in a publicized article, implied that the gamers who quit in protest over the recent micro-transactions controversy were as irrelevant as the Tea Party.
[...]
I am not supporting or defending the Tea Party. I am objecting to the CSM's statement of comparison.

The protesters should feel lucky if they're even remotely as relevant as the Tea Party.

Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
The csm represents 14 out of every 100 eve players as that is the percentage that voted.

The CSM represents enough of the people who actually bothered to make a few clicks to vote.
No vote, no relevance.

Nigri Oramara
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:04:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: dexington
The CSM was ment to be a way for the players to influence the design and development of eve, but it ended up being a tool CCP would use to influence the eve player base.


+1

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:33:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: ChromeStriker on 13/07/2011 11:33:21
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Seriously think about what your saying! what do u want to do replace the CSM members? theyre prob the most organised, comunative group weve had, not trying to belittle any past CSM's.
Or do you want to get rid of the CSM completely? where would that leave us?
this thread fails.

4 more years and long live the CSM n all that.

Ajunyx
Minmatar
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:46:00 - [44]
 

Lmao.

This communities entitlement complexes have gone off the charts since you all whined and stomped your feet about the Monacles and 'Protested in Jita' a bloobloobloo.

The more people make threads like this the more I want CCP to put things like pay2win in the game so you will actually leave and stop pretending you're going too.

Thread is dumb, OP is dumb.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.07.13 11:59:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 13/07/2011 12:00:44
Isolated movements:

Christ
Mohammed
Buddha
Napoleon
Gandhi
****** - seriously hit ler is filtered?
American Revolution
Tankman
Arab spring

Just a few isolated fringe movements off the top of my head. Skewed Christian and American. Please feel free to add your own.

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:06:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Akita T

Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
The csm represents 14 out of every 100 eve players as that is the percentage that voted.

The CSM represents enough of the people who actually bothered to make a few clicks to vote.
No vote, no relevance.


So you can't have an opinion on pedophilia if you're not a pedophile? Come on, you're normally better than this.

White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:09:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
Originally by: Akita T

Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
The csm represents 14 out of every 100 eve players as that is the percentage that voted.

The CSM represents enough of the people who actually bothered to make a few clicks to vote.
No vote, no relevance.


So you can't have an opinion on pedophilia if you're not a pedophile? Come on, you're normally better than this.


Nice straw-man argument wherein you compare the CSM to pedophiles.

You stay classy, Cashcow Golden Goose.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:21:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: White Tree

Nice straw-man argument wherein you compare the CSM to pedophiles.

You stay classy, Cashcow Golden Goose.


in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king...

He didn't compare the CSM to pedophiles, he just pointed out that you didn't need to vote or be in the CSM to voice you opinion, and proved it using an example of a social group which few belong to but most have an opinion about.

TehMaster
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:28:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Captain's Courageous
Edited by: Captain''s Courageous on 13/07/2011 03:37:20
Recently, the CSM has, in a publicized article, implied that the gamers who quit in protest over the recent micro-transactions controversy were as irrelevant as the Tea Party. First, that's insulting and degrading to gamers who have spent years paying for the privilege of playing EVE, and second, the implication is wrong. Over 1/4th of Americans identify themselves with the Tea Party, and the Tea Party have currently usurped the issue positions of the GOP. I believe that this level of unprofessionalism and ignorance speaks volumes about the integrity of the CSM, and must therefore request that a motion for a vote of no confidence be filed.

Signed,

Matthew L.

Original quote: "They are always going to be there. It is not relevant on any level, in any democratic process what the lunatic fringe thinks. Just look at, in America, the Tea Party, the John Birch Society, or what have you. Any of these isolated movements, on the fringes, they are very loud, but they donít actually impact sh*t. So, thatís pretty much my view of that.Ē

- http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/5382/page/2

Edit: I am not supporting or defending the Tea Party. I am objecting to the CSM's statement of comparison.


The CSM along with you has a right to their opinions. While I disagree with insulting the players who left I do not see how it constitutes a vote of no confidence. It shows you take something CCP has done for you for granted, they didnt have to create the CSM you know. Just shows you identify perfectly with the insane Tea Party. Those Americans are completely clueless as to how Government functions. Please, Leave the Jesus Freaks and Bachmann Bots out of Eve.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:38:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Captain's Courageous
Edited by: Captain''s Courageous on 13/07/2011 03:37:20
Recently, the CSM has, in a publicized article, implied that the gamers who quit in protest over the recent micro-transactions controversy were as irrelevant as the Tea Party. First, that's insulting and degrading to gamers who have spent years paying for the privilege of playing EVE, and second, the implication is wrong. Over 1/4th of Americans identify themselves with the Tea Party, and the Tea Party have currently usurped the issue positions of the GOP. I believe that this level of unprofessionalism and ignorance speaks volumes about the integrity of the CSM, and must therefore request that a motion for a vote of no confidence be filed.

Signed,

Matthew L.

Original quote: "They are always going to be there. It is not relevant on any level, in any democratic process what the lunatic fringe thinks. Just look at, in America, the Tea Party, the John Birch Society, or what have you. Any of these isolated movements, on the fringes, they are very loud, but they donít actually impact sh*t. So, thatís pretty much my view of that.Ē

- http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/5382/page/2

Edit: I am not supporting or defending the Tea Party. I am objecting to the CSM's statement of comparison.


What a silly quote, on serval levels.


Aodha Khan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:40:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: White Tree

Nice straw-man argument wherein you compare the CSM to pedophiles.



Well, he didn't compare CSM with pedos. And secondly, how about you as CSM make a comment on the actual subject matter since your obviously reading it.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:52:00 - [52]
 

one more whiny thread.... where will you stop after all?

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.13 12:59:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: White Tree
Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
Originally by: Akita T

The CSM represents enough of the people who actually bothered to make a few clicks to vote.
No vote, no relevance.


So you can't have an opinion on pedophilia if you're not a pedophile? Come on, you're normally better than this.


Nice straw-man argument wherein you compare the CSM to pedophiles.

You stay classy, Cashcow Golden Goose.


The **** is wrong with your guilty conscience?

1Of9
Gallente
The Circle
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:01:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Headerman
/signed.

I guess thats what happens when Goons are voted in.


+1

so mutch this --------^

goons in csm and in ccp ... what do u people expect? progress? lolol

White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:02:00 - [55]
 

I think some of you don't know what a straw-man argument is...

Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:03:00 - [56]
 

Should've voted Roc.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:08:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: dexington on 13/07/2011 13:13:12
Originally by: White Tree
I think some of you don't know what a straw-man argument is...


are you trying to say that stated premise fail to support the proposed conclusion?, or are you the one who don't know what a straw-man argument is...

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:15:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: mkint
Who cares about confidence in the CSM? It's CCP I have no confidence in. When (not if) CCP fails, nothing the CSM does will be able to save them.

Also, the only thing relevant about the TP (toilet paper party?) is what their existence implies about the state of America. Their philosophies and policies are just Republicans in khaki's, nothing revolutionary or even interesting. Bringing them up as an argument as to why CCP and the CSM are incompetent is an absolute failure of an argument.


Since the CSM is suppose to be a bridge between CCP and the players, what is the point of that bridge being just one way?


lol i lost my confidence in the CSM ever since Darius III found it funny to use his position to scam people for votes.

Just stop voting on the CSM next time, the amount of votes they have are a joke anyways.

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:20:00 - [59]
 


All the hallmarks of illusory superiority and continuous failure to recognise the extend of their incompetence.

The current CSM is a text book definition of the Dunning Kruger effect.

Signal11th
Posted - 2011.07.13 13:22:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Signal11th on 13/07/2011 13:22:58


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