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Kitsune Tsuki
Amarr
L'Opaline
Posted - 2011.07.12 18:21:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
What they fail to state is that when you buy said $10k scorpion, it is placed in every station in Eve for you. If you lose one, the station without one automatigically receives a new one too!


Like I said somewhere else before... it's just like a monocle, duh!

Phobos Kashada
Posted - 2011.07.12 18:38:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Daisy Domi
We already know that the vanity items will not be destroyed if a pilot is podded, as CCP want to safeguard items bought with real money.




Not to mention the fact that you are...

Drum roll for the 90 billionth time this needs to be said:

You arreeeeeee

naked inside your pod.

Yes, so very naaakeeed.

Naked inside of your pod!

You've got no clothes on!

You're swimming around in glue,

and you're nakkeeeed.

Now get off of my forums,

and take a showweerrrr!

Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:07:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
Quote:
IT'S GONE and you are out rl cash.


LOL, highly doubtful.


Hey think about it, if you made it indestructable, then you couldnt make any money off of it.

Make is 100% destructable then people who want it will have to buy it over and over and over and over again.

This means more money to ccp.


SO which way do you think this will go, indestructable with a 1 time purchase or make it very destroyable and have to make several purchases to replace it?

The obvious answer is there. They will make it destructable and you will have to pay to get it back.

/thread now everyone go home.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:15:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
Originally by: Ranger 1
Quote:
IT'S GONE and you are out rl cash.


LOL, highly doubtful.


Hey think about it, if you made it indestructable, then you couldnt make any money off of it.

Make is 100% destructable then people who want it will have to buy it over and over and over and over again.

This means more money to ccp.


SO which way do you think this will go, indestructable with a 1 time purchase or make it very destroyable and have to make several purchases to replace it?

The obvious answer is there. They will make it destructable and you will have to pay to get it back.

/thread now everyone go home.


Of course they will make it destructable... you miss the point of my post.

It is highly doubtful that anyone will be spending rl cash, they will be purchasing these "paint jobs" with PLEX off of the market. In other words, they will be spending ISK, not cash.

The only people spending rl cash will be people purchasing PLEX for resale, and they will get exactly what they want for their money. Namely extra ISK.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:16:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
Originally by: Neqa'el Uphir
No, they said they have "no plans", not that they wont do it.


A year ago they said they wouldnt introduce MT's period. And the wheel spins.

They do seem to be caught between a frying pan and a fire here though. Indestructible monocles are already starting to gather some heat on the forums and I personally would like to hear a lore acceptable rationale for my expensive slaves turning to deep fried chips while the brass anus/monobrow combo is indestructible.

If $1000 japanese jeans were destructible while worn, people would probably only buy a handful which hurts their sales. On the other hand the people who like to keep a bottle of freshly extracted tears by the computer to suckle on quite rightly want a chance to destroy these. Just like everything else player owned in space is destructible.

I sense a schism and a lot of rabble rabble rabble coming on these forums if indestructible vanity spills over onto ships.


Uh hate to mistake you but micro transactions where planned on for a good year and a half, the only promise made was that there would be no game breakers.

Dante Marcellus
Minmatar
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:17:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Phobos Kashada
Originally by: Daisy Domi
We already know that the vanity items will not be destroyed if a pilot is podded, as CCP want to safeguard items bought with real money.




Not to mention the fact that you are...

Drum roll for the 90 billionth time this needs to be said:

You arreeeeeee

naked inside your pod.

Yes, so very naaakeeed.

Naked inside of your pod!

You've got no clothes on!

You're swimming around in glue,

and you're nakkeeeed.

Now get off of my forums,

and take a showweerrrr!


Quoting for good measure. Maybe it'll sink in.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:19:00 - [37]
 

Remember when you buy the monocle you're buying the right to wear it, and all of its insurance polocies which is why new ones are provided when you die.

Ships on the other hand will only refund the isk value hopefully the paintjobs will be 'cheap' if they're disposable wares. However Im still waiting to be able to buy aurum with isk straight.

Savage Angel
Gallente
Gambler's Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:24:00 - [38]
 

And the trolls continue to spew misinformation to keep the uninformed masses uninformed.

When you buy a paint job for your Scorpion, you will have to buy a regular Scorpion from the player market, then turn it in to get the newly painted one. You can think of it as sending it off to the Eve Maaco shop if you like.

If it is destroyed, the ship is gone. You will have to buy another Scorpion from the player market. The question becomes, will this one be painted like the destroyed one without having to pay more Aurum?

CCP has not answered it to my knowledge. If you have to pay again, not many people will buy the paint, and those that do will leave the ship in the station most of the time. Kinda boring. If you do not pay again, they will treat it as a regular ship, although one that may carry a bit greater risk of being targeted.

I would think the repainting job would be free, or nominal, but we will have to see. If it is, then you are buying a lifetime insurance rider with your new paint job that says they will repaint a new ship for you if the current one is lost. Not inconceivable, especially if the cost is as high as we think it will be.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:26:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
Remember when you buy the monocle you're buying the right to wear it, and all of its insurance polocies which is why new ones are provided when you die.

Ships on the other hand will only refund the isk value hopefully the paintjobs will be 'cheap' if they're disposable wares. However Im still waiting to be able to buy aurum with isk straight.


You can already do this.

You get AURUM by spending PLEX.

PLEX can be purchased with ISK on the open market.

Viggen
Posted - 2011.07.12 19:57:00 - [40]
 


Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.07.12 20:02:00 - [41]
 

I will pay a lot of AUR for a monocle coated pod.

The Antiquarian
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.13 02:16:00 - [42]
 

CCP should implement a destructible $10,000 "Renovated" Opux Luxury Yacht.

A ship buyable for $10,000 needs to have a completely new design, worthy of its hefty price.

I want one for sure.

Zoltar
Caldari
Perdu Opus
Posted - 2011.07.13 03:10:00 - [43]
 

Can you apply the skin then sell the ship on the market with the new skin?
Can you contract or trade it?
Do you get the skin back after its destroyed?

Adeena Torcfist
Caldari
Dark Underground Forces
Posted - 2011.07.14 13:02:00 - [44]
 

i foresee this as a skin enabled option on the right click menu, when u jump into a repackaged standard scorpion.

that way, ppl apply the skins, sell for stupid amounts of money to recoup the losses they've incurred from Aurum, or till the market is saturated with these skinned ships, & selling for peanuts.

u just cant have 1 rule for 1 ( clothes ) & another rule for another ( ships ) & upon death losing one & not the other.

it may even be first skin free, any other subseuent ones would cost isk tolimit the mass producing of them. to me, i dont care what skins.

Sadayiel
Caldari
Inner Conflict
Posted - 2011.07.14 13:18:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Sadayiel on 14/07/2011 13:18:48
Originally by: Daisy Domi
Not trolling, but following a progression of thought.

I fully hope that it is destructible, but the initial NeX items are created indestructible, so I was wondering how other items would be effected.

Especially if these items are going to far more expensive to purchase. I can't see CCP selling many if they just get destroyed as soon as they hit space, and CCP, I presume, would like to sell as many as possible to increase profits.

As such, they need to make the item more appealing to purchase, so I am presuming that 'something' is going to be permanent. Maybe a free paint job every time you purchase the ship and go to the paint shop?




Hmm get your facts right NeX items are all Destructible within normal game mechanics (if transported they are shown and can be destroyed) the only ones indestructibles are the Vanity ones for appearance.
WHEN and i remark when you are wearing them, and i'm quite sure that's mostly due troubles with the *character picture* after poded to avoid innecesary reload of character creation then snap a pic without and such (wich can be a pain and quite laggy) to make things easier for them.

If not what? you gank him so he lost the boots/monocle/googles/shirt but the character still wear them in the pic forever?

P.S: as pointed out if you get a ship or a paintjob on a ship if the ship goes boom, you can't get another ship for free as much a limited run of paintjob to apply so let's say you can apply 5-10 paintjobs before lost the ability would be a nice mid ground before lost forever and permanent free paintjob (unless you left the apply with isk this will add a nice isk sink and a good reason to collect ship paintjobs if you are wealthy enough)

Mok Leh'kai
Posted - 2011.07.14 13:42:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Mok Leh''kai on 14/07/2011 13:42:22
Hey guys, I have a great idea for this new 10,000$ ship, obviously it needs a brand new model, lets also give it 8 high/med/lows with 8 launcher/turret slots and a 100% damage bonus for every weapon, along with a 90% cap reduction/speed increase on all forms of reps. And a drone bay the size of a gila. Oh, and it should use battleship size weapons/rigs with the sig of a frig though. And while we're at it, might as well give it 4 rig slots with 600 calibration points.

Don't worry, it won't be game changing at all.

Ovella
Posted - 2011.07.14 16:38:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
...With the $10,000 price that may or may not be real...
Ofc this price won't do! Where have you seen a spaceship for a mere $10,000 for sale?

rootimus maximus
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.14 23:46:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: rootimus maximus on 14/07/2011 23:47:18
Originally by: Nova Fox
Uh hate to mistake you but micro transactions where planned on for a good year and a half, the only promise made was that there would be no game breakers.


Actually, you're wrong.

In June 2010, CCP Shadow said there were no plans for microtransactions "whatsoever". Screenshots from that thread have been posted recently, the thread he / she said it in has been linked.

No-one from the CSM challenged CCP on this at their emergency free trip to Iceland, which makes me think I wasted my time voting for Trebor.

Pok Nibin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.15 00:35:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Pok Nibin on 15/07/2011 00:37:49

Never misspell words in the subject line of a post. Of all the places you'd want to check, it would be there. -3 quality control, -1 spelling

Originally by: Daisy Domi
We already know that the vanity items will not be destroyed if a pilot is podded, as CCP want to safeguard items bought with real money.

...CCP wantS...CCP is A company, singular. -5 subject/verb agreement

Originally by: Daisy Domi

So, following on from that, what about things like the Gold Scorpion? Does it magically appear back in the hanger to protect the players real life money investment?

...following-on...use a hyphen to connect two words you're using as one. -2 punctuation

"Appear back"...the word you're after is "reappear" -1 wrong word

Hangar, not hanger. You hang coats on hangers. You park aircraft in hangars. -1 wrong word

..."real life"...real-life (see above). -2 punctuation.

If you can't say what you mean, how can you mean what you say?


Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.07.15 01:36:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Daisy Domi
We already know that the vanity items will not be destroyed if a pilot is podded, as CCP want to safeguard items bought with real money.

So, following on from that, what about things like the Gold Scorpion? Does it magically appear back in the hanger to protect the players real life money investment?


Even worse...

You only need to buy one gold bullet.

It just keeps replacing itself after every shot.

How unfair is that?

Mr Epeen Cool

Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.15 02:25:00 - [51]
 

OP does have a valid point, in that all nex items currently sold are "Untouchable".
CCP would have to be stupid beyond belief to make an untouchable ship, but it certainly wouldn't be the biggest mistake they ever made. I'd say it's no chance at present, but you can't predict the future.




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