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Ghoest
Posted - 2011.07.11 20:45:00 - [1]
 

It seemed silly in EVE but were used to EVE being needless convoluted so ya whatever.

It makes even less sense with Dust. CCP cant even explain the way you pay for the game now in a comprehensible way.

baltec1
Posted - 2011.07.11 20:53:00 - [2]
 

Now compare EVE to our single planet and its many forms of currency.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:10:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
CCP cant even explain the way you pay for the game now in a comprehensible way.


guess you pay for the right to whine on the forums, the rest of us pay to play...

Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:14:00 - [4]
 

Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:24:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.
You know what?
That's actually a pretty darn good idea.

Put the resub into the NeX, and give us piles of AUR to cart around instead of this unwieldy PLEX silliness.

Viibl Triibl
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:24:00 - [6]
 

I'm surprised that in your extensive experience with game design, service-based business development, microtransactions and economics you never noticed that many other games have several tiers of currency.

Global Agenda has agenda points, tokens and credits. Battlefield Heroes has battlefunds, valor points and hero points.

If we're being honest, by the way, PLEX isn't really a currency. It's just an item that bridges dollars, aurum and isk and also happens to have game-time implications.

Mister Smithington
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.

You know what? +1

Except that then AUR would have to be an inventory item like plex instead of a total in your wallet tab.

Wangston Hughes
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:34:00 - [8]
 

no

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:46:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 11/07/2011 21:46:38
Originally by: Mister Smithington
Except that then AUR would have to be an inventory item like plex instead of a total in your wallet tab.
Could do both, and use the redeem/reverse-redeem functionality (or some variation thereof) to deposit and withdraw AUR from your personal wallet.

Hard currency only — no wire transfers for you! Twisted Evil

Mister Smithington
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 11/07/2011 21:46:38
Originally by: Mister Smithington
Except that then AUR would have to be an inventory item like plex instead of a total in your wallet tab.
Could do both, and use the redeem/reverse-redeem functionality (or some variation thereof) to deposit and withdraw AUR from your personal wallet.

Hard currency only — no wire transfers for you! Twisted Evil
If I'm understanding what you're suggesting then what's preventing you from adding the inventory AUR to your wallet, flying to jita, and reverse redeeming it there? That would be a way to cart game time through space with 100% safety. I'm not a fan of that.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 21:53:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 11/07/2011 21:53:56
Originally by: Mister Smithington
If I'm understanding what you're suggesting then what's preventing you from adding the inventory AUR to your wallet, flying to jita, and reverse redeeming it there? That would be a way to cart game time through space with 100% safety. I'm not a fan of that.
Good point. It would somehow have to be the opposite of what the current reverse-redeeming does, where you can't use the AUR in your walled unless you're in the right station. But yeah, that's probably just a cumbersome workaround that could be solved by simply not having it in the wallet to begin with…

…but it disturbs my neat-freakishness to have piles of cash strewn all over the hangar floor, dammit! Razz

Nishachara
True Enlightenment
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:22:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


This... +1

P.s: also you have one of pretty damn good looking chars...its the prolly this whole goth style...
goth chicks ftw \o/

Originally by: Mister Smithington

Except that then AUR would have to be an inventory item like plex instead of a total in your wallet tab.


Aur should be a gold bar that is an item in your CQ... so you can fill up whole of CQ if you are rich...
..or even better.. plate your ship in aur... Twisted Evil

Karthwritte
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:26:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Karthwritte on 11/07/2011 22:28:21
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


I have said that too, maybe it will end like a FOREX trade with isk. And CCP could kill the macros that sell isk for $$ by selling directly aur for $$, like 4 example, paying 5$ for the equivalent in aur and completing the rest by selling isk so you got enough aur to pay sub.
Could even boost Dust that way.

Major Connie Chung
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:28:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Major Connie Chung on 11/07/2011 22:30:32
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


Best idea ive read since Incarnage ™ came out.

+1

Tsukimaru
Amarr
Stargate SG-1
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:32:00 - [15]
 

Can you guess, how many forms of currency we have IRL?Laughing

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:33:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Mara Rinn on 11/07/2011 22:37:20
Edited by: Mara Rinn on 11/07/2011 22:34:30
Originally by: Ghoest
It seemed silly in EVE but were used to EVE being needless convoluted so ya whatever.


We have ISK and Aurum.

What's so convoluted about that?

There are plenty of commodities that are tradable at various rates, but they are commodities not currencies.

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


When you realise that Aurum are just µPLEX, it makes sense doesn't it? What we really need is a way to convert Aurum back into PLEX. Then just pretend that PLEX are "a crate full of Aurum".

In the real world we have currency exchanges and gold exchanges. This is parallel to ISK vs Aurum in-game. Just realise that Aurum is literally gold (the chemical symbol for gold is Au, for Aurum). And gold is a noble metal. Thus the Noble Exchange is really a gold exchange, where the super rich swap gold bars for really comfortable clothing Laughing

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.07.11 22:47:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Linda Shadowborn on 11/07/2011 22:50:29
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


Trouble with that... the people that just get the GTC to get isk, now they have to buy some clothes with their aurum and hope they can sell... seems rather.. mm i dont know.. less effective so i doubt as many would buy the GTC.. or is my really feverish brain missing something.. probably is considering how sick i am today.. blech

EDIT: i mean selling a plex is easy, many of us use them. selling vanity items.. yeah less people are interested in those so harder to sell. bah im off to bed again. i cant think. no xercodo, no jokes on how blondes cant think to begin with!!

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.11 23:19:00 - [18]
 

Why CCP just doesn't go to RMT is beyond me... it worked great in Diablo 2!

I have an uber-cart store all ready to go so that I can sell ISK and ships and clothing and RL items and even some exotic stuff that I can't mention!

I have my 99.00 ready to go and I am just waiting on the GO-Code for Online Sales to fire up!

CCP - GREED IS GOOD, RM is better than fake, let the people make real money off their efforts - If I put in the time to make something or to build it I should get RM for it, it's my effort/labor, and I am even willing to cut you in for a percentage!... since it's my labor and your game world - I say 50/50 now that is a deal!

Please send comfirmation to us so we can work the system, think of it... Look at Blizzard! So Diablo 2 became a pointless waste of code and totally about buying dupes and such... it made Millions of RL dollars!

I shall await the comming of common sense and business savvy - I know it's on it's way, and when it does... I (and you) shall make history the world hasn't seen yet, changing it takes alot, but I know you can we can do it! MT, RM-stores, Dupes!... it's the way to go. It is an industry standard, don't fail to copy what works! you have to go that direction!... Fear-NOT!

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.07.11 23:38:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn


We have ISK and Aurum.





And plex
And Dollars/Euros etc

Important Person
Posted - 2011.07.12 00:01:00 - [20]
 

My lawd, however will I keep track of two in-game currencies.

Oh wait, they're both displayed for me right there in my wallet.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now OP. Time to find a new bandwagon.

Pok Nibin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.12 00:04:00 - [21]
 

"The more complicated they make the plumbing the easier it is to stop it up." - Scotty -

(PS You "you're whining" weenies, troll accusers, and "you mad bro" dinks should really go back to WoW where you'd be in your depth. Not to point out the obvious, but you don't have to click the link to these posts.)

"This isn't the post you're looking for. Move along."
- Obie Wan -



Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.12 00:26:00 - [22]
 

They learned it from us....
Most market scams are simply attempts confuse you, CCP is taking a page out of their book, and will introduce enough different currencys to confuse the scammable portion of the playerbase, then scam them first hand. This removes the middleman....Profit.


Pure Tabasco
Posted - 2011.07.12 05:30:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Mara Rinn


We have ISK and Aurum.





And plex
And Dollars/Euros etc

monocles too

Kevric
Talocan Scrap Metal and Recycling
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:08:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Nishachara
Aur should be a gold bar that is an item in your CQ... so you can fill up whole of CQ if you are rich...
..or even better.. plate your ship in aur... Twisted Evil


I think you are onto something. I would turn off The Door(TM) if my Avatar could be bathing in millions of gold coins while in CQ like Smaug . . . or Uncle Scrooge!

Hey, Uncle Scrooge has a monocle doesn't he?

Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:26:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.
You know what?
That's actually a pretty darn good idea.

Put the resub into the NeX, and give us piles of AUR to cart around instead of this unwieldy PLEX silliness.


+1 Good idea, therefore we won't see this anytime in EVE.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:28:00 - [26]
 

EyjoG thinks it is fun.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:39:00 - [27]
 

It is actually a good idea to eliminate plex and replace it with AUR and letting game-time be a NeX item.

Won't change much even if its lootable as the last series of inventory changes pretty much removed any need to lug plex around anyway .. remote buy, remote 'add time' .. I for one have not seen a mail with plex on it for ages.

Brain-fart time:
But could be sweet if it was expanded on so that things like drug trade could only be done in hard-cash and only a few select stations had reverse redeem offices (perhaps Concord, not sure how they are distributed).
Further, electronic AUR transactions could become impossible to conduct as sec. rating drops (null-0.2 perhaps) with lower sec NeX stores containing 'rare' items (read: contraband).

Marquoth
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:36:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Honestly, they should get rid of plex entirely.

GTCs should be converted directly into 7000 AUR.

It should cost 3500 AUR to resub.

Aur should be droppable.


I liked this idea... for about four seconds. Being able to buy a resub in-game, for ISK, with its ISK value fluctuating like that of all other commodities, is much much cooler. 3500 AUR to resub aswell as PLEX to resub, maybe, but I don't want to see the end of PLEX.

UCLANUPE
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:47:00 - [29]
 

People are stupid and can't count no matter how many currencies a game has.

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.07.21 19:52:00 - [30]
 

Idea: Next time I acquire PLEX, I'm going to convert it to AUR, fly to Jita, buy the equivalent clothes and then sell them for the ISK.

Genius.


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