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mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.07.11 17:38:00 - [1]
 

Ok, I've seen in the past people talking about DSSPs and using them to quickly scan a system and quickly determine what sites were in the system. I get the impression that you can drop one at max-range and just memorize what initial strengths correspond to different sites. I may be totally off-base with this, but that was my impression.

What I was wondering is if it is possible to do the same kind of thing with regular probes too, and memorize the signatures, or if it requires DSSPs for some reason.

If any veteran scanners could clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Tierius Fro
Posted - 2011.07.11 18:01:00 - [2]
 

I never use deep space probes. In larger systems I will drop multiple core probes and set at range 32au

Mintala Arana
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.11 18:09:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: mxzf
Ok, I've seen in the past people talking about DSSPs and using them to quickly scan a system and quickly determine what sites were in the system. I get the impression that you can drop one at max-range and just memorize what initial strengths correspond to different sites. I may be totally off-base with this, but that was my impression.
This is correct. The signal strength that comes back will allow you to roughly identify what sites are in the system you're scanning.
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What I was wondering is if it is possible to do the same kind of thing with regular probes too, and memorize the signatures, or if it requires DSSPs for some reason.
It requires the DSP; other probes' base strength is high enough that nearby sigs have a significantly different signal strength than sigs that are near the edge of the probe's range.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.07.11 18:27:00 - [4]
 

Thanks for the info. And that does make sense about the signal strength being too high would cause that. And I'm guessing Combat Scanner probes, despite having half the strength of Core, would still be too high?

Oh well, it looks like I might need to bite the bullet and do that 15 day train of Astrometrics 5.

Mervent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.11 18:33:00 - [5]
 

Is there a list somewhere that lists what signal strength equals to what type of site?

Thanks.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.07.11 18:35:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Mervent
Is there a list somewhere that lists what signal strength equals to what type of site?

Thanks.


I actually just discovered Eveeye today, which seems to have strengths for a lot of stuff, but I'd assume you'd be better off making your own list because you'll have your own individual skills.

Substantia Nigra
Posted - 2011.07.12 01:16:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Substantia Nigra on 12/07/2011 02:20:53
Your initial scan strength, using any type of probe, can give you an indication of what the site may be ... without your having to scan the location any more precisely.

I use Deep Space probes extensively. For example, when jumping into a w-system and looking for either a K162 or B274 WH, I:
- Drop a single Deep Space probe set to 128AU (256 would work but the numbers in my memory are for 128AU) and run a scan cycle;
- Look for locations with a signal strength of around 0.56;
- Set my interface to ignore the other sites and workup the 0.56 ones.

Similarly, I know that my system's N766 static has an initial strength (Deep Space at 128AU) of 0.24 so I don't need to work my way thru the other sites to find the new static after a day or two away ... it's one of the two with that approximate size.

Of course the exact numbers vary with scanner skills and equipment ... my 0.56 may be your 0.48.

There's a nice little program called siggy (http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/?page_id=2155), built by Talocan United (http://talocanunited.com) folk, that includes a signal strength calculator operating along these lines.

Update: Have a look here - http://www.wormnav.com/base/sighelp.php

Sam Redshift
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.12 09:03:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: mxzf
I actually just discovered Eveeye today, which seems to have strengths for a lot of stuff, but I'd assume you'd be better off making your own list because you'll have your own individual skills.


Check out this thread discussing a spreadsheet calculating signature strength depending on skills etc.

I am not sure if Incarana modifications in probing require any adjustments for calculations. My probing strength and observed signature strengths are deviating slightly from calculations. However, thread discussion is giving excellent insights in dsp signature filtering.

Space Wanderer
Posted - 2011.07.12 09:10:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Sam Redshift
I am not sure if Incarana modifications in probing require any adjustments for calculations. My probing strength and observed signature strengths are deviating slightly from calculations. However, thread discussion is giving excellent insights in dsp signature filtering.


It does. A single DSP now reports strengths which are half of what they used to be.

Sam Redshift
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.12 09:29:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Sam Redshift on 12/07/2011 09:29:49
Originally by: Space Wanderer
Originally by: Sam Redshift
I am not sure if Incarana modifications in probing require any adjustments for calculations. My probing strength and observed signature strengths are deviating slightly from calculations. However, thread discussion is giving excellent insights in dsp signature filtering.


It does. A single DSP now reports strengths which are half of what they used to be.


Hhhmmm, this is in agreement with my observations.
Thanks, SW!


 

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