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Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:49:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Marlona Sky on 10/07/2011 17:49:25
Originally by: CCP Hekatonkheires
Bring your best stories and moments. Help build what should be a really amazing repository of EVE culture, and get some free stuff.


The door is real.

Here is the player created content you were asking for CCP. What kind of free stuff can the player that created this video expect?

Yarrrrrhh
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:52:00 - [2]
 

Amazing. Should be featured by CCP.

Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:53:00 - [3]
 

Here's my Digest of the above story from Eve online.

Joined when it was good. Now it's bad.

The End.

A Taxman
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:56:00 - [4]
 

I thought you whiners quit the game or something, what gives?

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:57:00 - [5]
 

i was making fun of the door before it was cool.

Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2011.07.10 17:58:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: A Taxman
I thought you whiners quit the game or something, what gives?


I thought the morons who said stuff like this couldn't find any subforum other than CAOD? Rolling Eyes

Deryk Kyeld
Veteran Defense Initiative
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:01:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: A Taxman
I thought you whiners quit the game or something, what gives?


No they're sticks in the mud who won't stop crying until they pass out.

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:05:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Ildryn on 10/07/2011 18:06:48
More propaganda.
This is simply ridiculous.
They stated to the players only vanity.
They have reiterated that point numerous times.
The internal newsletter was never meant to be released.
The others weren't. This one was a idiotic stunt.
No one won this little protest. It showed ccp and the rest of eve who the players are who are not helping to make a better community.
CCP did not listen because people unsubbed. They did not go through all the trouble they did because they lost something.
They did it because an employee leaked an internal letter. That caused havoc with the more ignorant of the player base.
People who could not be patient and wait for the weekend to be over.
Get off your soap box. You are only preaching to a couple thousand weak minded individuals.
The more you protest and whine the more you look like Westboro Baptist Church.
Trying to preach a point that does not exist.
Biomass already. The majority of eve (those not protesting) don't give a **** about your little problem.

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:10:00 - [9]
 

Epic video.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:12:00 - [10]
 

This is SIMPLY THE BEST Incarna video released so far.


THE DOOR, IS REAL!

Deal with it CCP!!! Very Happy

Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:13:00 - [11]
 

Haha, that was fun in a tragic kind of way :)

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:30:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
They stated to the players only vanity.
They have reiterated that point numerous times.
They also said we wouldn't get any MT, and reiterated that point numerous times.
Quote:
The internal newsletter was never meant to be released.
…so? It wouldn't have made the message contained within in any better.
Quote:
No one won this little protest. It showed ccp and the rest of eve who the players are who are not helping to make a better community.
Yup. Those who didn't care to raise their voice when the game was being ruined by poor decision-making and even worse communication, and in particular those who defended the same actions, sure identified themselves…
Quote:
CCP did not listen because people unsubbed.
Nah. That was probably the only thing they listened to, per their own strategy statements…

Darth McDarth
Posted - 2011.07.10 18:35:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Ildryn

They stated to the players only vanity.



Please point me to a CCP statement that says they will only ever sell vanity items.

Saying there are no plans currently doesn't count.


Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.07.10 19:14:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 10/07/2011 19:16:07
Originally by: Darth McDarth
Originally by: Ildryn

They stated to the players only vanity.



Please point me to a CCP statement that says they will only ever sell vanity items.

Saying there are no plans currently doesn't count.




This is the closest statement that CCP has made, that I can see:

"Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be (and there‘s no design has been done around this, we‘re just talking strategy now) that anything that doesn‘t affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means. "

Technically, they didn't say they wouldn't sell non-vanity items, but CCP certainly did intend for their statement to be interpreted this way, to quell all of the rage regarding the "PLEX for neural remap" incident. Tricking your customers into believing something that isn't true is just as deceitful as a lie, and might as well be one.

EDIT: I should say that I could care less about microtransactions. So long as the game is fun, I will play. However, I also don't find it fun to play a game which is run by a bunch of people who are unable to communicate with their customers clearly and honestly. Even if CCP comes forward and says "we changed our mind, we will eventually do non-vanity items", that would be fine by me.

TaterRoller
Posted - 2011.07.10 20:03:00 - [15]
 

The inside of the station is vanity. Confirming they will charge 45,000 AUR to go inside the rest of the station when it is released in a few months.

Mirabi Tiane
Posted - 2011.07.10 20:07:00 - [16]
 

+Like

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.07.10 20:11:00 - [17]
 

Funny video, but someone should make one with images from the epic door thread.

Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
Posted - 2011.07.10 20:18:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: TaterRoller
The inside of the station is vanity. Confirming they will charge 45,000 AUR to go inside the rest of the station when it is released in a few months.


You think we get a choice? Cool, I like it! ;)

Sekket
Caldari
White-Noise
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:11:00 - [19]
 


Toovhon
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:30:00 - [20]
 


Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:49:00 - [21]
 

Because of Door.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2011.07.10 22:08:00 - [22]
 

+1 cos its about doors

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.07.10 22:43:00 - [23]
 

Yeah that was fun +1

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.07.10 22:52:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Ildryn on 10/07/2011 22:53:51

Originally by: Tippia

They also said we wouldn't get any MT, and reiterated that point numerous times.
…so? It wouldn't have made the message contained within in any better.
Yup. Those who didn't care to raise their voice when the game was being ruined by poor decision-making and even worse communication, and in particular those who defended the same actions, sure identified themselves…



The MT you are referring to is worthless visual upgrades.

The newsletter was a way to get ideas that were controversial from the staff.

Those who didn't raise there voices that weekend prove to be more level headed and patient enough to wait for CCPs return to office hours.

The current and continuous bashing of the company can only turn away subscribers.
In the end people that are complaining and making all the bad press are only hastening the demise of a game they claim to like and other people still enjoy.



Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.10 23:47:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: A Taxman
I thought you whiners quit the game or something, what gives?

How many times do we have to go over this?

We quit the game. We stop playing. We cancel our subs. However, because CCP made a contractual agreement to give us gametime, unless we breach the EULA, we still have the gametime we paid for. During which we will sit on the forums and be profoundly glad that we quit because people like you have started popping up.

But Perpetuum is quite nice, thanks.

Tsukimaru
Amarr
Stargate SG-1
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.10 23:51:00 - [26]
 

CCP can only show you the door. It's up to you to step through it. Rolling EyesLaughing

Sekket
Caldari
White-Noise
Posted - 2011.07.11 01:20:00 - [27]
 

The Door! Better version.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 01:32:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
The MT you are referring to is worthless visual upgrades.
…so far, and the promise that it will remain that way is about as reliable as the promise that we wouldn't get any MT to begin with.
Quote:
The newsletter was a way to get ideas that were controversial from the staff.
…apart from the bits that said "we're going to do this".
Quote:
Those who didn't raise there voices that weekend prove to be more level headed and patient enough to wait for CCPs return to office hours.
For one, it started much earlier than the weekend. For another, considering the amount of trolling they're doing, they don't seem particularly level-headed. And finally, since CCP has proven time and time again that outrage is the only thing they listen to, raising your voice is the level-headed thing to do…
Quote:
The current and continuous bashing of the company can only turn away subscribers.
Good. That should deliver the message that it's a good idea to listen to the repeated complaints, or people will start to really hurt the bottom line, and that a few voices can do more damage to the numbers than just the number of voices itself.

Of course, this is not in any ways a new or shocking revelation, but equally non-new and non-shocking is CCP's inability to learn from the mistakes of others…

OMFG1111
Posted - 2011.07.11 01:51:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Sekket
The Door! Better version.


Epic. Thanks!

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.11 02:55:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Sekket
The Door! Better version.


Rofl.


OP video was great too.


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