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Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.07.09 23:01:00 - [31]
 

why didn't they just make it all cheaper AND destructible, or is this just too sensible an idea.

(sorry I'll just be quiet now)

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.07.09 23:08:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
Originally by: Ivoto
Originally by: Bloodcrow
Your naked in your pod...


This...actually.


Then I counter with this;

What happens to the items you have purchased, or are wearing when you get into your pod? And if they are stored on the ship somewhere, once again, refer to the op.


You haven't been paying attention.

All your possessions are sent FedEx to the location you are traveling to while naked in your pod.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.09 23:08:00 - [33]
 

I think my sun-goggles should be destructible...just wanted to go on record.

Cooper Anderson Stewart
Caldari
Casalt Corp
Posted - 2011.07.09 23:42:00 - [34]
 

None of it makes any sense.

Players want to customize spaceships.

If you want to completely change a working game economy 8 years into success for a wild hair, you are grossly incompetant.

It would be awesome, if say, CCP had test servers, and introduced all this change in the exact way it was going live, so, you know feedback and customer reaction could be gauged, and soaked for perhaps 90-120 days so pricing and good ideas could be sorted out before causing mass cancellations and stuff...i know...crazy right?

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.07.09 23:57:00 - [35]
 

1) NeX have a licence with all the cloning company, so that when you got podded they also scan your clothes and resynthetize them on your new clone.
... wait if we can synthetize them this easily why are these so expensive ? doesn't work

2) you got a licence for the clothes, when podded they check your killmail as proof for the insurance and send you a new one. it's instant cause they have stores on any station of any system like you having a CQ on any station of any system... that's crap but anyway CQ's lore is also crap.

3) there is micro jump drive on the clothes, just before you die they jump to the cyno that the cloning facility have opened for them... ridiculous... wait not that much given others solutions...

4) it's magic... hey at least it's logical here...

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.10 00:19:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Ydnari
Because of money.


^^ This. People would go ballistic if their vanity items were destroyed and/or they simply wouldn't buy vanity items any more.

Tirachi Griffin
Posted - 2011.07.10 00:20:00 - [37]
 

If they make a perfect clone of a human body, including all memories up to a certain point. I don't see why they can't clone your clothes.. It's Jovian tech obviously.

Ishukone corporation has obviously been studying the cloning process that they released to start the age of the capsuleers and with the release of Incarna they have applied this process to clothes so they clone along with their pilots.

That's probably why your clothes cost so much.. you're paying to have clones of your clothing in all the cloning stations.

My pants can say "I was there" Laughing

Pok Nibin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.10 00:23:00 - [38]
 

ON the same note, I always wondered how when a vampire turns into a bat...and his clothes fall to the ground (or vanish), when he again becomes bi-pedal/humanoid, how can he still be in a tux?

Better yet, when you're dead and in the box in that nice suit someone picked out for you, how do you emerge in Heaven wearing those billowy white robes?

Is there some mystical dressing room we haven't heard about?

Montevius Williams
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.10 00:28:00 - [39]
 

I've always assumed that you just took them off and left them in your Captains Quarters. Seems logical. Why would yuo bring your clothes into a POD? Makes no sense. Now the monocle is a different story. If it is an implant, then it should be destroyed on podding...


Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:10:00 - [40]
 

If you had vanity items you'd realize they are destroyed, they just insure to 100%.

That's what you're paying so much for: permanent insurance.

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:20:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
If you had vanity items you'd realize they are destroyed, they just insure to 100%.

That's what you're paying so much for: permanent insurance.


Funny, CCP Zinfandel says otherwise

Quote:
If you are currently wearing an outfit, it is effectively indestructible so put it on before you leave if you're making your purchase at a well-traveled market hub like Jita.


Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:22:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
If you are currently wearing an outfit, it is effectively indestructible


Key word there is effectively.
Just like your rookie ship that magically respawns when you die.

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:26:00 - [43]
 

Just another reason why this whole RMT scam of CCPs is disgusting.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:29:00 - [44]
 

Because of
  ▲
▲ ▲

Triforce Power

That's why they are indestructable.

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:30:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Originally by: AnzacPaul
If you are currently wearing an outfit, it is effectively indestructible


Key word there is effectively.
Just like your rookie ship that magically respawns when you die.



have you ever read the default message when you dock without a ship? Here it is for you

Quote:
We from the friendly insurance company Pend Insurance regret the recent loss of your spacecraft. According to the agreement between Pend Insurance and SCC, we hereby grant you a brand new Ibis, fully fitted. Also included is a gratuity gift of Tritanium.


It is explained perfectly. How your monocle survives when you are podded when it is physically attached to your body is not Rolling Eyes

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:37:00 - [46]
 

Basically in their haste to implement macro transactions CCP forgot that they had spun tales of lore around the universe and that this isn't consistent with that view.

Forgive them the error. It's $$$ over quality these days. Better get used to it in Barbie in space™

Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:42:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles
Originally by: AnzacPaul
If you are currently wearing an outfit, it is effectively indestructible


Key word there is effectively.
Just like your rookie ship that magically respawns when you die.



have you ever read the default message when you dock without a ship? Here it is for you

Quote:
We from the friendly insurance company Pend Insurance regret the recent loss of your spacecraft. According to the agreement between Pend Insurance and SCC, we hereby grant you a brand new Ibis, fully fitted. Also included is a gratuity gift of Tritanium.


It is explained perfectly. How your monocle survives when you are podded when it is physically attached to your body is not Rolling Eyes


Obviously because any monocle owner is arrogant enough to know that their monocle will be replaced and wouldn't dare be bothered to read a notification of something so obvious, so said notifications simply aren't sent for vanity items.

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:46:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Selinate on 10/07/2011 01:47:21
Haven't the devs said multiple times before already that vanity items ARE destructible when in your cargo hold?

In addition to this, you are naked in your pod, its not like a monocle implant can't be explained as being just pulled out of your head before you decide to fly. No one is wearing clothes inside the pod, its just put back on your clone when you get out.

Therefore, I'm equally confused as to why people don't have the intelligence to piece this fairly simple puzzle together themselves...

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:52:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: AnzacPaul on 10/07/2011 01:53:56
Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 10/07/2011 01:47:21
Haven't the devs said multiple times before already that vanity items ARE destructible when in your cargo hold?

In addition to this, you are naked in your pod, its not like a monocle implant can't be explained as being just pulled out of your head before you decide to fly. No one is wearing clothes inside the pod, its just put back on your clone when you get out.

Therefore, I'm equally confused as to why people don't have the intelligence to piece this fairly simple puzzle together themselves...



EDIT: So when you leave jita, and your monocle is removed, how is it sent to your destination?

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:54:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul


I think it's pretty safe to say the monocle isnt removed from your eye before you fly, therefore your point about saving what, a projected image of the vanity items on your clone makes even less sense, seeing as that really means they were never in a physical form in the first place.




No, its not safe to say that.

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:54:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: AnzacPaul


I think it's pretty safe to say the monocle isnt removed from your eye before you fly, therefore your point about saving what, a projected image of the vanity items on your clone makes even less sense, seeing as that really means they were never in a physical form in the first place.




No, its not safe to say that.


See above then, and clarify for me.

Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:55:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul

EDIT: So when you leave jita, and your monocle is removed, how is it sent to your destination?


It clone jumps?

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.10 01:56:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
Edited by: AnzacPaul on 10/07/2011 01:53:56
Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 10/07/2011 01:47:21
Haven't the devs said multiple times before already that vanity items ARE destructible when in your cargo hold?

In addition to this, you are naked in your pod, its not like a monocle implant can't be explained as being just pulled out of your head before you decide to fly. No one is wearing clothes inside the pod, its just put back on your clone when you get out.

Therefore, I'm equally confused as to why people don't have the intelligence to piece this fairly simple puzzle together themselves...



EDIT: So when you leave jita, and your monocle is removed, how is it sent to your destination?


Actually, lets not even stop here, why is ANY character clothed when they dock in a new station? OMG, everyone should be naked EVERY SINGLE TIME they dock.



They give you a new one. A whole new set of clothes. They give you a new monocle too and take the one you left in the other station back.
Rolling Eyes

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.10 02:02:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: AnzacPaul
Edited by: AnzacPaul on 10/07/2011 01:53:56
Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 10/07/2011 01:47:21
Haven't the devs said multiple times before already that vanity items ARE destructible when in your cargo hold?

In addition to this, you are naked in your pod, its not like a monocle implant can't be explained as being just pulled out of your head before you decide to fly. No one is wearing clothes inside the pod, its just put back on your clone when you get out.

Therefore, I'm equally confused as to why people don't have the intelligence to piece this fairly simple puzzle together themselves...



EDIT: So when you leave jita, and your monocle is removed, how is it sent to your destination?


Actually, lets not even stop here, why is ANY character clothed when they dock in a new station? OMG, everyone should be naked EVERY SINGLE TIME they dock.



They give you a new one. A whole new set of clothes. They give you a new monocle too and take the one you left in the other station back.
Rolling Eyes


Oh of course damn why didnt I see that earlier..... Your monocle is a rental, not a purchase. Now it makes sense. thanks

Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.10 02:37:00 - [55]
 

You don't buy clothing, you buy the license to wear that particular item!
The license to be fashionable Cool

TheLightningCount
EdgeGamers
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.07.10 03:40:00 - [56]
 

Its grown out of your excess skin... where do they get the skin from though?

VKhaun Vex
Posted - 2011.07.10 03:53:00 - [57]
 

Yeah because the space game with a permanent 'up' and one gun puts 2-3 on your ship that can't fire at the same time is the perfect place to whine about immersion.

Your portrait is just that. A portrait your naked goo-covered self puts out for the world to see, INSTEAD OF A NAKED GOO COVERED LIMP FACE. The Monocle doesn't get blown up because you're not wearing it. It goes to the new clone the same way YOUR OLD CLOTHES DID. Your clones haven't been showing up naked the past eight years have they? Nothing new. If it hurts your immersion now it should always have. It didn't, because back then you weren't butthurt whiners.

What a stupid thread. Rolling Eyes

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.10 04:16:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
You don't buy clothing, you buy the license to wear that particular item!
The license to be fashionable Cool


Then the clothes/monocle would not be destroyed if it was in your cargo...

Lilliana Stelles
Caldari
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.10 04:21:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Kirkland Langue
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
You don't buy clothing, you buy the license to wear that particular item!
The license to be fashionable Cool


Then the clothes/monocle would not be destroyed if it was in your cargo...


Not if the item in your cargo is a transferable license that another player could also activate at their magical customization mirror.

Grog Barrel
Posted - 2011.07.10 04:26:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Vasha Rin
It's very simple to explain, actually... the NEX clothing and monocles are MAGIC.

It's why they cost so much. NEX items are enchanted against casual destruction and are soulbound items. Such objects of power can only be crafted through the most powerful and dangerous of magicks, and wizards are not known to offer their services cheaply...


I will buy this coherent explanation. Probably the best out there.
How much AUR would it cost me again?


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