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Keen Fallsword
Posted - 2011.07.07 16:51:00 - [31]
 

If you dont like this game... Simple !!! Dont PLAY IT. Those all Posts about "situation" are ****ing pathetic. Stop it coz you are funny.. Like kids in fog lol.. How old are you ? Dont you know what is all about ? Money !!! Mom dont teach you that ? SHAME !!! Not about ****ing crapy game !! So unsubscribe you will be free... Junkies.... You are talking to the dealer that ******* price is to high !!! Think about it if you can think... EOT

Valarian Blacksun
Posted - 2011.07.07 16:56:00 - [32]
 

its not about that you monkey, if you invested time in a good game with a strong community. You still be ****ed of if somebody ****s it over.

Its not about us whining about it, its about taking something that was ours.

Eve was our games, and ccp was the protector.

Now ccp wants to make more money so they can make crappy consol games and vampire mmos.

So they will **** up eve to oblivion, and thats a damn shame. And yes am ****ing sad about it

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.07.07 16:59:00 - [33]
 

F2P and MTs only work for throwaway titles. Games you release, hopefully milk enough money out of to develop the next throwaway title before it croaks and release the new one hit wonder afterwards.

It does not work for EVE that is supposedly designed to last indefinitely.

It should work with Dust 514, as it is, considering the lifespan of console games, a throwaway title. Hopefully they make enough money with that one to release a PC version for it that is only free to play for people with EVE subscription and a small monthly fee for everyone else.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:01:00 - [34]
 

I think people need to get over this. If you don't like the way things are going with subs then quit.

Tanya Fox
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:02:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Tanya Fox on 07/07/2011 17:04:10
Edited by: Tanya Fox on 07/07/2011 17:02:11


That says a lot, just glad my subs up in a few days.

Sure looks like it'll be the death of the old Eve.



Looks like I made the right choice.

Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:02:00 - [36]
 

all you gotta do is look at the board of directors..

Someone needs to start listening to Icelandic fishermen instead of Icelandic bankers.


Valarian Blacksun
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:05:00 - [37]
 

i quite already .. but am still ****ed off.

its like your exwife just sold your children to a child molester in sweden.

anyway http://i.imgur.com/g3hEB.jpg <-- funny

Jackstah Whoosaa
DohMinion
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:14:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 07/07/2011 17:15:48
Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 07/07/2011 17:15:02
Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 07/07/2011 17:14:40
Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 07/07/2011 17:14:29
Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 07/07/2011 17:14:19
Originally by: Keen Fallsword
If you dont like this game... Simple !!! Dont PLAY IT. Those all Posts about "situation" are ****ing pathetic. Stop it coz you are funny.. Like kids in fog lol.. How old are you ? Dont you know what is all about ? Money !!! Mom dont teach you that ? SHAME !!! Not about ****ing crapy game !! So unsubscribe you will be free... Junkies.... You are talking to the dealer that ******* price is to high !!! Think about it if you can think... EOT


i just did you little whiny b.itch\



-3 acounts

coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:15:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Keen Fallsword
If you dont like this game... Simple !!! Dont PLAY IT. Those all Posts about "situation" are ****ing pathetic. Stop it coz you are funny.. Like kids in fog lol.. How old are you ? Dont you know what is all about ? Money !!! Mom dont teach you that ? SHAME !!! Not about ****ing crapy game !! So unsubscribe you will be free... Junkies.... You are talking to the dealer that ******* price is to high !!! Think about it if you can think... EOT


think you dont get it... we like the game...as it is/was

we dont like the game if they turn to f2p/mt (well limited mt i dont mind for vanity items only), and then you will be right and we wont play it anymore.


Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:16:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 07/07/2011 17:17:27
Originally by: Valarian Blacksun
its not about that you monkey, if you invested time in a good game with a strong community. You still be ****ed of if somebody ****s it over.

Its not about us whining about it, its about taking something that was ours.

Eve was our games, and ccp was the protector.

Now ccp wants to make more money so they can make crappy consol games and vampire mmos.

So they will **** up eve to oblivion, and thats a damn shame. And yes am ****ing sad about it




this. every noob on these forums needs to know this. ^


^
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
I think people need to get over this. If you don't like the way things are going with subs then quit.





Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:20:00 - [41]
 

Last time I looked at my credit card statement, EvE Online is NOT free to play. Until it is, any talk of this is moot.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:22:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Ana Vyr
Last time I looked at my credit card statement, EvE Online is NOT free to play. Until it is, any talk of this is moot.


I just checked mine and apparently it is. You should look into that.

Naradius
DEATHFUNK
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:29:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Naradius on 07/07/2011 17:50:58
Mr Pétursson, is having a bad few weeks...looks like he is intent on the bad run to continue o\

Advice for Mr Pétursson - mixed messages never create a favorable atmosphere - this you should have learnt over the last few weeks. i.e. - CCP/CSM meeting: "no plans to introduce gold ammo..." vs Post CCP/CSM meeting industry interview: "...not something we can comment on".
I'm aware that the interview happened the day before the CCP/CSM meeting, but this type of thing creates confusion and erodes any trust...for Christs sake get yourself a decent PR dept!!!

Jarne
Caldari
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:33:00 - [44]
 

Wow, that just sounds like in a lot of companies where buzzword bingo has been perfected.

Let's see, there is this cool subscription-based model - bad thing is you have to pay a subscription fee, good thing is you don't have to pay for ingame items. And now there is this really cool new thing called micro-transactions - bad thing is you have to pay for certain items, good thing is you don't have to pay a subscription fee....

Now how can we take the worst of the too worlds? Wouldn't THAT be super cool?

lol

HyperZerg
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:34:00 - [45]
 

Go on, no one liked the sandbox anyway!

Hurts to see CCP destroying the Eve we like[d].

Btw, still now official numbers how many accounts canceld ?

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:35:00 - [46]
 

its more like "how greedy can we get before they kick us in the nuts"...well, seems they really want to find out, last week just wasn't enough.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:06:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks

Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on.

Hmmm. Somehow this was not the unequivocal 'NO!' I was hoping for.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:12:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks

Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on.

Hmmm. Somehow this was not the unequivocal 'NO!' I was hoping for.

Don't worry about it. It's your typical CEO type of shady answer. Those guys learn this dialect quickly to keep investors happy and avoid being pinned down on specifica.

If you think they're going to introduce MT stuff with real impact on gameplay anytime soon you're stupid. Even greedy ass suits realize how fast this ship would sink if they did that. So unless they change the fundamentals they'd have to change in order to facilitate such stuff it's not going to happen.

Don't buy the hype.

Obviously Confidential
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:24:00 - [49]
 

When did innovation involve looking at what other people do and then copying them???

That's not the way EVE was built.

Seriously, CEO should stop attending gaming conferences and play more EVE.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:48:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Obviously Confidential
When did innovation involve looking at what other people do and then copying them???

Since always. Look at what your predecessors did. Switch it up. Find ways to make it better. It's a huge part of what actually spawns innovation.
Quote:
That's not the way EVE was built.

Of course it is. Eve is heavily influenced by Elite. Hilmar & co talked about it all the time way back when.
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Seriously, CEO should stop attending gaming conferences and play more EVE.

True.

Dark Reignz
Posted - 2011.07.08 11:33:00 - [51]
 

Arrh so there is still a glimmer of hope I might one day see my precious Quafe Extreme ™ Skill Respec items. Lovely. +100 Inter-reps to Hilmar!

pichan
Posted - 2011.07.08 11:40:00 - [52]
 

I could actually see F2P really for Eve. Just make the max level for anything 3 or 4 and dont allow anything above a BS to be trained. If you did that, you may be a lot of people to shoot at and have fun with, plus it would give CCP the change to get people into the game as 2 weeks of F2P is not going to get a lot of skills up to really go out and PVP with players a lot. Dont think doing that would hurt anything really.


Space Wanderer
Posted - 2011.07.08 12:32:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Of course it is. Eve is heavily influenced by Elite.


Thank god somebody still knows that. I wonder how many actually know what Elite is...

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.08 12:44:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Space Wanderer
Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Of course it is. Eve is heavily influenced by Elite.


Thank god somebody still knows that. I wonder how many actually know what Elite is...


Great, you two managed to make me feel old briefly Cool

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.07.08 12:59:00 - [55]
 

Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on. We've made a commitment to discuss those things with the Council of Stellar Management so me speaking out of turn would not be honouring that. Really the platform to have that dialogue is with the CSM. It's a complicated matter to define what is vanity and what is not vanity. There is a lot of vanity in society that has an impact on wider matters.

I am Starting to see why people are still nervous about this topic, despite the recent blogs and CSM releases.


Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.08 12:59:00 - [56]
 

By definition, MTs reduce the life-span of games. Any "business model" that allows players to accelerate the path from newly subscribed noob to bittervet will have the impact of getting them to quit sooner.

Of course you want to look at business models that are more likely to get Trial Accounts to subscribe in the first place.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:15:00 - [57]
 

Its a great business model when one person says one thing and the CEO says another (or lack of).

Ill keep paying but as soon as you can pay for ships and **** im off.

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:22:00 - [58]
 

If you read between the lines, the fact he is not commenting on the question whether or not game influencing items will be released in the NeX store, is proof enough for me that it will eventually happen.

That, plus paying subscription fees every month.

WoD & Dust development doesn't pay for itself you know.

Jorhan Brimve Stahl
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:24:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on 08/07/2011 13:40:59
Make an effort to log in and read the entire piece.
TL;DR: OP is a liar.

"Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on. We've made a commitment to discuss those things with the Council of Stellar Management so me speaking out of turn would not be honouring that. Really the platform to have that dialogue is with the CSM. It's a complicated matter to define what is vanity and what is not vanity. There is a lot of vanity in society that has an impact on wider matters. "

Zeg Quul
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:26:00 - [60]
 

Buying time , that's what it's all about. Milking, PR-spins and damage control continue as predicted. Some frogs will escape, other will die later.







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