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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Dray
Edited by: Dray on 05/07/2011 17:59:03
Originally by: Blane Xero
If you played eve Before/During 2006 (Red Moon Rising) you should know better than to bash perpetuum.

If you didn't play eve that far back, you lose any right to bash perpetuum.


I've been around since beta phase 3, pre auto pilot if memory serves, and Perp is ok but it's not better, not even close, Eve had its issues but don't try and tell me Perp is better at the same stage, it simply isn't.

I'm not saying Eve didn't have problems, it did, and I'm no one to criticize I made good use of those features (bugs) but Perp doesn't even come close, I have serious issues with Eve atm, which I think are simple, cash for in game advantage should never be allowed other than selling plex or GTC's to buy a better char, which to be honest is good and bad, ever since char auctions/selling was allowed I've made good isk from it but it is a vague form of buying SP.

Either way I profit from it so my arguments are moot but comparing Eve and Perp is pointless atm it's just children crying and trying to make a point, which until we know everything it's as much use as p155ing in the wind and complaining if you get wet.

People want to leave then let them, play Perp but don't come back and tell us it's better, those of us who've been around a while know better.



The problem is that people are trying to draw parallels between Perpetuum and Eve, and justify said parallels by linking them with a sense of greater and inferior.

When comparing games, this just does not work. I'm not going to run out and say Perpetuum is better than Eve, but at the same time, the opposite applies. Perpetuum merely offers people a similar experience at this time to those that are the most likely to be leaving (Vets circa 2003-2006) are used to and may enjoy experiencing again, while offering similar levels of potential in growth that eve did in it's own infancy. I for one look forward to being part of the community that builds on perpetuum as the original people in eve did way-back-when, while at the same time i'm mourning the fact I feel it an appropriate time to quit a game that less than two months ago I was going to stay subscribed to for the foreseeable future.

Takseen
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:40:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Takseen on 05/07/2011 18:41:00
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
So I went through some patch notes and found the following terms and phrases:
-NPC corporations
-Agents
-Reverse engineering
-Completing "assignments" for corporations to improve "relations"
-Electronic warfare mechs
-"Alpha strike"
-Modules
-Remote repairing
-"Robot information windows now show unmodified bonuses when viewed from the market."
-Armour repairer usage decreases the level of your "accumulator"
-"Fittings"
Somebody's been taking influence from another MMO!



I hope you're not implying Eve invented the term alpha strike. It was around since Mechwarrior as I recall, and just referred to firing all your weapons in one glorious overheating inducing burst.

PS As much as I like Perp, I don't think its cool to keep spamming General Discussion with it.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:42:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Takseen
I hope you're not implying Eve invented the term alpha strike. It was around since Mechwarrior as I recall, and just referred to firing all your weapons in one glorious overheating inducing burst.
I hope you're not implying Mechwarrior invented the term Alpha Strike. It's been around since military days as I recall, and just referred to firing everything you had in one glorius overkill inducing burst.

northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Terran United Federation
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:42:00 - [34]
 

Perpetuum is boring and It reminds me alot of EVE features. Like skills to fittings and so on. It's crap and I would Mine in EVE than play that game again.

Takseen
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:49:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Takseen
I hope you're not implying Eve invented the term alpha strike. It was around since Mechwarrior as I recall, and just referred to firing all your weapons in one glorious overheating inducing burst.
I hope you're not implying Mechwarrior invented the term Alpha Strike. It's been around since military days as I recall, and just referred to firing everything you had in one glorius overkill inducing burst.


Fair enuff. Its a pretty cool term, I can see why both games borrowed it.

Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:53:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Dray
Edited by: Dray on 05/07/2011 17:59:03
Originally by: Blane Xero
If you played eve Before/During 2006 (Red Moon Rising) you should know better than to bash perpetuum.

If you didn't play eve that far back, you lose any right to bash perpetuum.


I've been around since beta phase 3, pre auto pilot if memory serves, and Perp is ok but it's not better, not even close, Eve had its issues but don't try and tell me Perp is better at the same stage, it simply isn't.

I'm not saying Eve didn't have problems, it did, and I'm no one to criticize I made good use of those features (bugs) but Perp doesn't even come close, I have serious issues with Eve atm, which I think are simple, cash for in game advantage should never be allowed other than selling plex or GTC's to buy a better char, which to be honest is good and bad, ever since char auctions/selling was allowed I've made good isk from it but it is a vague form of buying SP.

Either way I profit from it so my arguments are moot but comparing Eve and Perp is pointless atm it's just children crying and trying to make a point, which until we know everything it's as much use as p155ing in the wind and complaining if you get wet.

People want to leave then let them, play Perp but don't come back and tell us it's better, those of us who've been around a while know better.



The problem is that people are trying to draw parallels between Perpetuum and Eve, and justify said parallels by linking them with a sense of greater and inferior.

When comparing games, this just does not work. I'm not going to run out and say Perpetuum is better than Eve, but at the same time, the opposite applies. Perpetuum merely offers people a similar experience at this time to those that are the most likely to be leaving (Vets circa 2003-2006) are used to and may enjoy experiencing again, while offering similar levels of potential in growth that eve did in it's own infancy. I for one look forward to being part of the community that builds on perpetuum as the original people in eve did way-back-when, while at the same time i'm mourning the fact I feel it an appropriate time to quit a game that less than two months ago I was going to stay subscribed to for the foreseeable future.


Like you say drawing parallels is pointless, which I made clear in my p155ing in the wind comment, but if people want to leave let them in the case of Eve vs Perp it's a losing battle Eve was and simply is better, I will defer to you in as much you have been around for as long, but I still maintain most are whiney f**ks.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:56:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Dray
but I still maintain most are whiney f**ks.
Isn't the majority of the Eve player base? Laughing

Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:00:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Dray
but I still maintain most are whiney f**ks.
Isn't the majority of the Eve player base? Laughing


Oh man you got me there. Laughing

Heavenly Blues
Posted - 2011.07.05 22:54:00 - [39]
 

I was cool with Eve until they started the whole $68 mega transaction ****. I can't support greedy ****ers like that in any capacity. I have enough assets to plex up for a year or two but let my main run dry, and this one will soon be with it.

Perpetuum is a fun game. Not equal to eve, but it doesn't have 50 million dollars a year to develop with. Dollar for dollar it is vastly superior. With the level of income CCP has from eve, there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of finished content year after year. Bad management is not an excuse.

I'll stick with the new indie game. You guys can have your top 40 aspiring madonna game. I've got good friends struggling to get jobs and survive and some pale flabby **** in Iceland wants $68 for a ****ily rendered monocle. **** you john wayne.


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