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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.03 08:07:00 - [1]

I understand the need to redo and update Aura's original 'Basic Training' tutorial known as 'Crash Course'. I think the Aura NPE (New Player Experience) is much better and a step in the right direction compared to the old 'Basic Training'.

However, the mission series 'The Endless Battle' was completely different even though the Agents offering it were known as 'Tutorial Agents'. There was no need to 'retire' those agents.

The way it used to be for a new player entering the game.

'Crash Course'
(Basic Training)

Players could repeat this at any time in 1 of 12 (3 per Faction) specific Solar systems. Aura would train players in ship and station controls in 2 different locations within that Solar system. In space, players were sent to a specific training site to destroy a single NPC in simulated combat (no damage to player). After that while still in the training site, players were instructed to do some mining where a couple more training NPC's would attack. After destroying them and mining some Ore, players would then return to station for instruction about the various station services.

No Corporation or Faction standing incurred for completing that. Aura would then refer players to 1 of 60 (15 per Faction) Event Agents known as 'Tutorial Agents' who offered the 2-part mission series 'The Endless Battle'.

'The Endless Battle'
(2-part mission)

This was the new players very first 'real' mission which could only be completed once per agent in the life of the character. Part 1 was a simple Encounter mission against a single NPC which when destroyed, would drop a small specific item to be returned to Agent. Part 2 was a simple Courier mission to transport a small specific item to a nearby Solar system.

A small amount of Corporation and Faction standing incurred for completing that. The Agent would then refer players to 1 of 60 (15 per Faction) Career Agents for more advanced training on the various careers available.

Basically, the incorrectly named 'Tutorial Agents' didn't give any instruction or information to new players other than refer them to the Career (Advanced Tutorial) Agents. The old 'Tutorial Agents' were actually Political Liaisons for their specific Faction. Those 60 Agents were a good source for gaining a 1 time Faction standing increase.

I propose 2 different options for the 60 Tutorial Agents (15 per Faction) and their mission 'The Endless Battle', 1 simple and 1 complex.

Option 1 (simple):
Bring the old 'Tutorial Agents' back out of retirement and change their Title to 'Political Agents'. Have them continue offering 'The Endless Battle' mission with a slight change to their ending dialog so they don't refer players to the Career Agents (Currently done by Aura NPE).

Option 2 (complex):
Have the new 'Political Agents' (15 per Faction) split up into 5 different Agent levels, 3 Agents per level from level 1 to level 5. Have them all offer 'The Endless Battle' mission series but have the mission difficultly and reward increased to match the higher Agent levels.

These new 'Political Agents' and their mission offers can only be completed once per Agent in the life of the player's character, just like the old 'Tutorial Agents'.

The code is already written and with some slight programming, Option 1 could be implemented very easily. Option 2 would of course take more time and work to implement but is still doable.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this proposal.



DeMichael Crimson
Republic University

Posted - 2011.07.03 12:52:00 - [2]

Rolling Eyes

Guess I could support my own proposal.



Dare X
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence
SoulWing Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.03 18:20:00 - [3]

Edited by: Dare X on 03/07/2011 18:22:59
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Rolling Eyes

Guess I could support my own proposal.



I support this as well. It's well thought out and doesn't appear to have any game-ending standing balance issues. I like it.


DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.04 12:00:00 - [4]


Thyralon G'zer
Posted - 2011.07.06 06:27:00 - [5]

Great idea - but certainly Option 2 is my favorite. Having different levels of these agents makes it much more interesting for me.

You got my vote - Option 2 please. Smile

Asta Ddu
Posted - 2011.07.07 22:04:00 - [6]


Rockets ponies and rainbows

Posted - 2011.07.08 07:21:00 - [7]

A well thought out proposal, so supported.

Stellar Lancers
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:25:00 - [8]


Linoa Hiroshi
The CounterSpace Society
Posted - 2011.07.09 21:48:00 - [9]

Edited by: Linoa Hiroshi on 09/07/2011 21:48:46
I think it's a very good idea Wink option 2 is better, in my way. Supported.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.10 03:55:00 - [10]

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 10/07/2011 03:56:24

Thanks everyone, I also like Option 2.

Option 1 can be done very easily and should be reinstated asap, hopefully with plans to incorporate Option 2 within the near future.

Posted - 2011.07.14 12:37:00 - [11]

Edited by: Wreckar on 14/07/2011 12:41:42

I'd used the tutorial agents to fix my mains balance before and it was pretty straight forward and effective.

Tonight I thought I'd use them to bump my alt to get a headstart on courier missions working towards R&D rep, get a cheap frig fit going, set my waypoints, rock up to the first agent. No show.

Disappointed, I'd just be happy to get option 1 back.

Posted - 2011.07.19 18:25:00 - [12]

This is important to the newer player who may inadvertently lost faction standing and is attempting to regain it.

I support.

Posted - 2011.07.27 06:30:00 - [13]


Omega Cadaver
Posted - 2011.07.27 06:44:00 - [14]


Isri Gythral
Posted - 2011.08.03 21:02:00 - [15]


3lux Lucis
Posted - 2011.08.05 22:20:00 - [16]

hear, hear!

Lozi Cozi
Posted - 2011.08.11 02:52:00 - [17]

I support this.

Draconia Belladonna
Posted - 2011.08.13 05:41:00 - [18]

We need more ways to improve faction standings since many new players start out running missions and may decide to change career paths once they have enough isk, experience, and skills trained. I support option 2 specifically.

Marius Bar'Tog
F-H Schwerindustrie und Sicherheit
Posted - 2011.08.25 17:25:00 - [19]

I support option 2.

Posted - 2011.08.31 03:55:00 - [20]

Great idea

Posted - 2011.09.01 07:54:00 - [21]

Edited by: GalacticPamela on 01/09/2011 08:09:37
Edited by: GalacticPamela on 01/09/2011 07:56:59
Hi DeMichael and All

Firstly a big thank you on the onset for all the gigantic work you have posted so far which has helped stabilise and raise simultaneously factional standings on all fronts.

I would also support your recommendations on either options about the re-institutions of former Tutorial Agents in the form of new Political Agents, as you recommended.

These agents provided a quick heads-up to factional standings in the early days just by completing a series of 2 simple missions and they provided in such a glimpse in the policital front of factions and factional standings.

In that sense I would support their re-institution as in Option 2 in an improved way as to have 1 Endless Battle mission series offered once for each level (1 to 5) for each Capsuleer Edcation Center of each races.

As a back-up plan re-institutions of the agents as suggested in Option 1 would also be useful and as you say less time consuming as the scipts must be ready.

Thank you once again for all the work and support you have been in smart missioning as well as the rehabilitation of eroded factional standings.



DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Posted - 2011.09.04 11:12:00 - [22]

Thanks everyone.

I guess the new forums are going to be reactivated. I'll make sure to post a copy of this proposal in it.

Thanks again,



Republic University

Posted - 2011.09.08 04:38:00 - [23]

+1 supported.


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