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Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:01:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Raven God on 02/07/2011 21:03:26
I for one would like to thank anyone who spoke out against this.

I'm convinced that if you hadn't done what you did we would've been looking at P2W within 6 months.

All the people that told you to quit should be on their knees for you Smile

CCP might be pretending they never even considered it but im pretty sure we know better.

Regardless of their original intentions, we have delayed P2W for a year or so atleast.

Thank you for saving my internet spaceships!

Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:03:00 - [2]
 

lol.. all that happened was that they spent some of the monocle income on CSM trips to Iceland. Other than that, what was really accomplished?

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:04:00 - [3]
 

I don't trust a single word of that devblog regarding non-vanity MT. Because even if they're officially saying they won't do it, they also officially said they would never do MT in general a year or so back, and look how that turned out. And the fact is, I don't want to invest anymore money into this game if it's accepted as a fact of life that it will eventually turn P2W.

Was a nice effort, but I'm still not coming back.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:05:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Algathas
lol.. all that happened was that they spent some of the monocle income on CSM trips to Iceland. Other than that, what was really accomplished?
Nothing, but people did get drunk.

xxxTRUSTxxx
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:06:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx on 02/07/2011 21:06:54
Originally by: Algathas
lol.. all that happened was that they spent some of the monocle income on CSM trips to Iceland. Other than that, what was really accomplished?


stop being a stupid ****, it needs to be shown that when we get a result no matter how small, we realise we got one.

impossible to please everyone, but if it looks like it pleases no one,, CCP won't be arsed listening to how we feel.

i too say thanks to all who made the effort.

next time there is a vote for CSM, get off your lazy ****ing arses and VOTE !

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:06:00 - [6]
 

saved your internet spaceships i dont think ive seen you undocked since you sold your nyx like a crybaby

Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:14:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
saved your internet spaceships i dont think ive seen you undocked since you sold your nyx like a crybaby



I bet ive gotten more kills than your united main since then Smile




Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:16:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Elrica bloodbane on 02/07/2011 21:17:42
Our CSM has told them how attached we are to spinning ships.
their going to implement this later.

WTF should have said how unhappy we are because, They slowed it down and screwed it up
Who gives a rats arse about ship twirling.

CAN WE GET RID OF THIS CSM NOW, BEFORE WERE AS STUPID AS THEY ARE

Ianus
Caldari
Geminus Gateway
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:20:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Raven God
Edited by: Raven God on 02/07/2011 21:03:26
I for one would like to thank anyone who spoke out against this.

I'm convinced that if you hadn't done what you did we would've been looking at P2W within 6 months.

All the people that told you to quit should be on their knees for you Smile

CCP might be pretending they never even considered it but im pretty sure we know better.

Regardless of their original intentions, we have delayed P2W for a year or so atleast.

Thank you for saving my internet spaceships!


Let's not fool ourselves, we did it for the lulz!

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:27:00 - [10]
 

CCP's position has not changed 1 jot.
You all just got lip service and loved it.

I bet they're laughing like drains now.

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:28:00 - [11]
 

Lol @ all morons who think shooting some monument affected something.

Keno Range
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:30:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Raven God
Edited by: Raven God on 02/07/2011 21:03:26
I'm convinced that if you hadn't done what you did we would've been looking at P2W within 6 months.

CCP might be pretending they never even considered it but im pretty sure we know better.



I agree. Thanks for protesting against P2W. Great work!

Shivus Tao
Minmatar
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:33:00 - [13]
 

Donald Trump also thinks he alone got Obama to release his birth certificate, and nothing anyone says will convince him otherwise, despite the fact that he got trolled hard.

Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:58:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jasdemi
Lol @ all morons who think shooting some monument affected something.


Although the ingame protests were admirable, the protesting im referring to was done mostly on the forums.

Starting a thread saying "No to P2W" is considered a protest to me Smile

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:00:00 - [15]
 

you don't know if you delayed anything.

stop congratulating yourself & face reality.

we have DOOR, unable to run multiple clients & the ridiculous vanity store.

Tuggboat
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:09:00 - [16]
 

WHere exactly is that monument?

Call Me Death
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:09:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Tuggboat
WHere exactly is that monument?
0/10

loony thezoon
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:20:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Call Me Death
Originally by: Tuggboat
WHere exactly is that monument?
0/10


Be quiet noob, let us grieve for the death of eve

Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:31:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: San Severina
you don't know if you delayed anything.

stop congratulating yourself & face reality.

we have DOOR, unable to run multiple clients & the ridiculous vanity store.


They just made the statement that they're not planning on selling non-vanity items,
I think it would be hard for them to go back on those words within the next year atleast.

The door should be leaving soonish and replaced with your spinny ship feature, honestly who cares about that door or spinning is the same.

If you cant run multiple clients then you need to get a decent computer, if you cant afford one quit gaming and get a job.

Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente
United Mining And Distribution
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Raven God
They just made the statement that they're not planning on selling non-vanity items,
I think it would be hard for them to go back on those words within the next year atleast.

You'd think so, but almost exactly a year ago CCP had no plans for MT. Now we've actually got an ingame store dedicated to it. Given their glacial development speed, how long do you think their no-MT promise actually lasted? One month? Two months? Three at the most

And then the devblog goes on to address our concerns:
  • NeX for ships - greenlighted

  • Load station environment remains a temporary measure

If you think they extended some kind of olive branch and listened to their playerbase, you're an idiot. Within a year features that should've been free will be sold in their MT scheme.

Brys Bennedict
Posted - 2011.07.02 23:58:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Brys Bennedict on 02/07/2011 23:59:41
How about CCP spend their time and resources making the game actually WORK properly before trying to make it pretty, hmmm?

All this hub bub and what have we gotten? Cosmetic crap. Fluff. That's all it is. To make matters worse, performance is now WORSE than it ever was.

Come on CCP, I expected better of you. You're not that big that you can afford to completely alienate your player base. Look at what SOE did with SWG. Took 500k loyal players and whittled it down to less than 10k. Learn from their mistakes and learn from yours. The reason people are so jumpy, paranoid and easy to upset is because we've been screwed over SO MANY TIMES by other companies. You know, selling buggy, half finished products. They may have been pretty, but they simply didn't work right. Any serious MMO player should have at least 3 or more complete FAIL MMO's under their belt (UGh, I loathe to count mine). CCP had always been the rock, the one company that bucked the trend. Imagine everyone's reaction when even a rumor of RMT, followed by a leaked newsletter hit the player base. I would think that if the same had happened to any other MMO company there would not have been even a fraction of the outcry, mainly because players expect it of them. NOT from CCP. And yet the hits kept rolling. Some people ignored it, others got ****ed and protested with a crap load more in between those two opinions. It shows two things: a) The players hold CCP to a very high standard; and b) People who play this game for more than a month truly love what CCP has done here. They don't want it prettied up, at least not with performance being sacrificed for such trivial rubbish. A big complaint I've heard is performance and bugs. THESE are the things that need fixing. When skills work and the game runs more smooth, THEN make it pretty (it's not like it's ugly right?).

CCP,sometimes to know where you're going you have to know where you came from. Don't screw over the players you have that pay your bills with the hopes of scoring the "millions" of other players that quite simply do not (and may never) exist.

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:05:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
I don't trust a single word of that devblog regarding non-vanity MT. Because even if they're officially saying they won't do it, they also officially said they would never do MT in general a year or so back, and look how that turned out. And the fact is, I don't want to invest anymore money into this game if it's accepted as a fact of life that it will eventually turn P2W.

Was a nice effort, but I'm still not coming back.



Thanks for saving me the effort of typing nearly exactly the same thing.

I would like to add that without the old Hangar & with CQ disabled I just don't want to log in anyway.

The CQ has ruined me immersion almost completely. No way I'm paying for this cr 4 p. No f&*king wayNeutralNeutral

Janeway84
Gallente
Masters Of Destiny
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:08:00 - [23]
 

Well I wasn't crying out but maybe i wasn't enough Mulder and I was too much of Scully...
I really didn't see how ccp decisions would have affected the game.
Anyway I for one think they should have both a store and clothes that you can win or loot from missions Smile
Then you could have faction clothes, store clothes ect.. just using both the Nex store and the mission loot and market systems that are in the game already.
But then CCP would have to hire more artists making clothes Wink

Imo one thing I really would like is if they updated the graphics on all the old ships and also added vanity and faction skins for ships.

Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:10:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Raven God
Regardless of their original intentions, we have delayed P2W for a year or so atleast.
Thank you for saving my internet spaceships!


Stupid people. P2W is already here and in full effect, it's called GTC/PLEX for isk. You invest RL-$$ and get isk for that, buy better characters, ships, ammo, everything. You buy ingame-win with real money, how have you delayed P2W ??

And btw. I hate rebels and protesters. CCP should learn from Baschar al-Assad how to successfully deal with riots.

Gloria Stitz
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:13:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Raven God
Regardless of their original intentions, we have delayed P2W for a year or so atleast.
Thank you for saving my internet spaceships!


Stupid people. P2W is already here and in full effect, it's called GTC/PLEX for isk. You invest RL-$$ and get isk for that, buy better characters, ships, ammo, everything. You buy ingame-win with real money, how have you delayed P2W ??

And btw. I hate rebels and protesters. CCP should learn from Baschar al-Assad how to successfully deal with riots.


Another amateur troll

ko4e
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Raven God


And btw. I hate rebels and protesters. CCP should learn from Baschar al-Assad how to successfully deal with riots.


its because of rebels and protesters your able to make that comment, don't under-estimate the power of the people!


though i agree p2w is here, and its a cancer eating away at mmorpgs. its a sad fact people LIKE YOU are the ones who just agree and encourage the cancer to infect and grow within our communities

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:16:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
I don't trust a single word of that devblog regarding non-vanity MT. Because even if they're officially saying they won't do it, they also officially said they would never do MT in general a year or so back, and look how that turned out. And the fact is, I don't want to invest anymore money into this game if it's accepted as a fact of life that it will eventually turn P2W.

Was a nice effort, but I'm still not coming back.


my monocle allows me to see what utter tripe your post is

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:19:00 - [28]
 

I'm just gonna say it was me a pleasure.

and

i am not gonna participate in the discussions about the CSM.

o7

Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.07.03 16:06:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen

You'd think so, but almost exactly a year ago CCP had no plans for MT. Now we've actually got an ingame store dedicated to it. Given their glacial development speed, how long do you think their no-MT promise actually lasted? One month? Two months? Three at the most

And then the devblog goes on to address our concerns:
  • NeX for ships - greenlighted

  • Load station environment remains a temporary measure

If you think they extended some kind of olive branch and listened to their playerbase, you're an idiot. Within a year features that should've been free will be sold in their MT scheme.


There is no way they will release game changing MT within the next year atleast.

If I am wrong, I will give you all my isk Smile

I dont expect that this will be permanent, but I still feel like we delayed it significantly.

Whose to say the outrage wont be even more next time they try to release it.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.03 16:28:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Cipher Jones on 03/07/2011 16:29:13
Thank you OP it was my pleasure.

Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Raven God
Regardless of their original intentions, we have delayed P2W for a year or so atleast.
Thank you for saving my internet spaceships!


Stupid people. P2W is already here and in full effect, it's called GTC/PLEX for isk. You invest RL-$$ and get isk for that, buy better characters, ships, ammo, everything. You buy ingame-win with real money, how have you delayed P2W ??

And btw. I hate rebels and protesters. CCP should learn from Baschar al-Assad how to successfully deal with riots.


Youre not even smart enough to make an avatar, your opinion means **** all.


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