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Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:05:00 - [31]
 

The CSM raised concerns with performance running multiple clients after the Incarna launch where the minimum hardware spec will only support one client logged in when in a station environment. CCP will work on creating a minimum hardware spec that supports multiple clients, but wants it to be clear that the current minimum specification aims at single client with low settings.

whats the point

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:24:00 - [32]
 

+2 accounts

I am happy with ccp and csm work related to the future plans of nex store and items to be sold in there.

Special thanks for addressing the pre-incarna ship spinners superior performance compared to incarna enviroment. Looking forward to get replacement implemented in some point.

Tanya Fox
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:25:00 - [33]
 

I've not actually played Eve, other than change a few skills since the crisis started.

I'm kind of at a crossroads between what I had planned for the character (staying) and the whole sorry mess we've just been through (leaving) which has dulled my interest somewhat.

What tips the balance for me is a small part of the content of the blog, the bit about they never had any intention to sell non-vanity items (might not be word perfect as not cross checking with the blog at this point). That to me just does not add up due to the way CCP has conducted themselves over the last 11 days.

So looks like I'll be looking for a new MMO.

So yeah I'll remain unsubscribed as well.


Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:27:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Gloria Stitz
-2

The devblog says precisely nothing, nothing at all.

(read it like a lawyer)



Well you obviously cannot read, it flat out says,

MICRO TRANSACTIONS WILL BE FOR VANITY ITEMS ONLY.

They also said, After the other CQ are finished, they will work on getting a balance for those who want to have ship spinning to have it and for those who want cq to have it.

They couldn't have been anymore clearer.

Then again ccp doesn't need the money of stupid people.

Tanya Fox
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:30:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
-2

The devblog says precisely nothing, nothing at all.

(read it like a lawyer)



Well you obviously cannot read, it flat out says,

MICRO TRANSACTIONS WILL BE FOR VANITY ITEMS ONLY.

They also said, After the other CQ are finished, they will work on getting a balance for those who want to have ship spinning to have it and for those who want cq to have it.

They couldn't have been anymore clearer.

Then again ccp doesn't need the money of stupid people.



So I guess you pay with isk then.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:30:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
-2

The devblog says precisely nothing, nothing at all.

(read it like a lawyer)



Well you obviously cannot read, it flat out says,

MICRO TRANSACTIONS WILL BE FOR VANITY ITEMS ONLY.

They also said, After the other CQ are finished, they will work on getting a balance for those who want to have ship spinning to have it and for those who want cq to have it.

They couldn't have been anymore clearer.

Then again ccp doesn't need the money of stupid people.


wait i didnt read that line. wanna quote it for me pls

ninjaholic
Gallente
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:38:00 - [37]
 

I'm just glad I didn't have to let my account run out. Didn't really want to but I wasn't going to play if CCP released non-vanity play-to-win bull****. Smile

Johannes Alexodia
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:43:00 - [38]
 

The MT is for Vanity Items only won me. =P Now I may be forced to join the monocle crowd as a peasant bashing the quitters and ow trolls.

Renak11
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:51:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Renak11 on 02/07/2011 21:55:08
Originally by: Tanya Fox
So I guess you pay with isk then.


Which will be bought with PLEX, which are converted from GTCs.

Eve has been "pay2win" for a very long time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blind, deaf and dumb. Get over it or move on.


edit for clarity.

Hesperius
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:54:00 - [40]
 


Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:56:00 - [41]
 

Unsubbed 4 of my 7 accounts before Incarna was released. Couldn't be bothered with the spiralling cost of PLEX any more. I still have the remaining 3, Incarna has had no effect on me whatsoever.

Tiliam
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:01:00 - [42]
 

-1 here. I don't like MT for any kind of items in a game I pay a monthly fee for (vanity or not).

Hohepa Marstolt
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:04:00 - [43]
 

I will be back when my hanger is back.

King KLoWn
Solaris Operations
Forever Unbound
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:06:00 - [44]
 

-4

Lies.
Trust lost.
Confidence lost.
All Blogs look like a Political Spin Job on this matter.
Lack of taking responsibility and apologizing to the community.

It was fun while it lasted but it is now over for me at the very least.
Perptruum here i come.

Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:08:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Deamos
+1 Resub and other resub will stay in limbo while I observe what CCP does over the next month.


Same 1/2

No mention of exploit wardec either. Makes non consentual pvp in highsec possible. Needs to be cancelled when cancelled. Like my other sub.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:10:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 02/07/2011 22:20:50

Originally by: Renak11
Edited by: Renak11 on 02/07/2011 21:55:08
Originally by: Tanya Fox
So I guess you pay with isk then.


Which will be bought with PLEX, which are converted from GTCs.

Eve has been "pay2win" for a very long time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blind, deaf and dumb. Get over it or move on.


edit for clarity.


Regardless if someone spent hours grinding for ISK or played less and bought game time it was never really P2W. It was pay for easier time but someone somewhere had to grind the ISK or build/find the stuff in game.Meaning the only thing created out of thin air was a time card in which some one else had to be willing to buy in order for you to sell for ISK.

With MT the stuff will be added to game with out any player involvement other than swiping a credit card. If you can't see the difference in how that affects the "sandbox" you are extremely dense.

Vanity items will likely not affect the game too much, but I don't have any trust in the fact that CCP will hold true to just vanity. Nothing in the dev post really showed that they "get it".

It was just more spin doctoring with no clear answers and much more not even a mention of them working on stuff that has been broken/bugged for years. This uprising wasn't just about MT it was about CCP's general attitude toward this game. I've seen no change in that attitude so I will likely un-sub my 2 alt accounts and just do some trading on my main and maybe *** around in a dram or something from time to time, til I see any progress.

Nath Blazek
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:12:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Tiliam
-1 here. I don't like MT for any kind of items in a game I pay a monthly fee for (vanity or not).


This.

Markarian Aurelius
Caldari
Bureau of Interstellar Exploration
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:14:00 - [48]
 

+1

I'm satisfied for now, as long as they stick by their word. I'll probably continue funding my alt's playtime with PLEX for awhile. I'm fairly happy, but trust will take awhile to be fully rebuilt. Time will only tell.

Atreus Venom
Gallente
New Eden Hitmen
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:16:00 - [49]
 

still waiting to see the "market strategy"

they are still playing virtual chess with this game

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:17:00 - [50]
 

+2 accounts

Nak hak
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:17:00 - [51]
 

-4 accounts. Voting with my wallet.

Laughing at you CCP. What a bright company.....Laughing

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:18:00 - [52]
 

+4

I still have some serious problems with CCP, but they have done the minimum necessary for me to be able to justify my addiction for a little longer.

General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:19:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: General Xenophon on 02/07/2011 22:19:45
Originally by: Troy LS
0 - no apology and hilmer is still employed



I understand we were angry with them, but firing the CEO would hardly do us any good. They've seen their mistakes -hopefully- and are altering their course to adjust to the player input they've received... in theory at least.

Waiting to see what happens in terms of game changes and the new 'Eve Item Shop', then possibly adding one more account back.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:25:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Renak11
Edited by: Renak11 on 02/07/2011 21:55:08
Originally by: Tanya Fox
So I guess you pay with isk then.


Which will be bought with PLEX, which are converted from GTCs.

Eve has been "pay2win" for a very long time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blind, deaf and dumb. Get over it or move on.


edit for clarity.


You didn't win with better ships or faction gear etc.. often made your alliance or corp look bac with the faction gear given the evolved player metrics of success and kb efficiency too .

But the game wasn't balanced around plex purchases, nor were they promoted, and the number of advantageous items was fairly limmited in effect and only so many "slots" availble.

Plex purchases for use to buy ISK was hardly promoted at all by the developers.. first time I noticed any of that was a month ago and the timing seemed to be following player complaints about high plex prices.. as if it were an attempt to drive the isk/plex ratio down.

Never was there any planned extra interface convenience that was sold for ISK but from the fearless piece the lead developer thinks it would be a great idea to allocated saved fittings based upon isk or $ in something like the range of a months subscription equivilant? Suddenly the priorties for game design and player experience are being warped around how to steer it so extra revenue beyond subscriptions can be realized.

Play to win is a red herring.. thats not the heart of the issue but only a part that shows.. the way it warps game mechanic planning is where the real damage will be.

Shardivh
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:26:00 - [55]
 

I am satisfied. +1
Thank you CCP for once again going above and beyond the standard of game devs commitment to their playerbase.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:27:00 - [56]
 

CCP please don't lose faith in the inspace part of eve. It has huge potential don't squander it spending all your time on a quick buck with incarnatransactions.

Once they really work out a decent mechanic for small gang pvp (like fw almost accomplished) I will resub my 3 accounts. I can't commit my life to eve and right now it takes to long to find decent pvp. Until then I am going to go by what ccp does instead of what they say, and remain unsubbed until the good inspace release actually comes out.


Blutomus Maximus
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:32:00 - [57]
 

Might resub when station environment options aren't so ****e.

Yirrkala Wombarra
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:36:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Yirrkala Wombarra on 02/07/2011 22:37:30
Originally by: Ianus
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Unsubbing takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to assure us everything will be fine.


Well played, mate.


oh yeah almost forgot -- Still at -3 accounts here.

coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:38:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
-2

The devblog says precisely nothing, nothing at all.

(read it like a lawyer)



Well you obviously cannot read, it flat out says,

MICRO TRANSACTIONS WILL BE FOR VANITY ITEMS ONLY.

They also said, After the other CQ are finished, they will work on getting a balance for those who want to have ship spinning to have it and for those who want cq to have it.

They couldn't have been anymore clearer.

Then again ccp doesn't need the money of stupid people.


it didnt flat out say that...

they said...

"There are no plans, and have been no plans"

a year aro there where no plans for MT and yet here it is....there are no plans or have been for none vanity items..untill some gekko CCPer comes up with one and then we have a plan...

so ccp come clear... tell us.. "there wont be nor ever will be none vanity items(aka pay2win) in the NEX store" saying this will make me resub..

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.07.02 22:40:00 - [60]
 

This account and my other CC paid account are on a fresh 3 month renewal that started days before Incarna launched they will remain unsubbed for the time being pending whether or not I like what I see going forward I'll decide whether to renew when they expire.


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