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Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.07.04 11:54:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Darth Vapour
When can we expect something new ? Since wormholes we've had a few new industrial ships and that's it. PI, EVE-Gate and Incarna are all things outside the core EVE gameplay.



Apocrypha was an enormous expansion of content for EVE, the likes of which had not been done since the game was started. Asking for another expansion on the same scale as Apocrypha less than 8 years after that expansion is perhaps a bit rich. The Trinity engine changeover was pretty close in scale - requiring remodelling of every graphical asset in the game. The time between Trinity and Apocrypha was a few years, and CCP has started focussing more heavily on the core of the game - specifically the fight against lag.

Just because you're not getting new fancy ships every six months, doesn't mean CCP is standing still.

There are hundreds of little bugs that have been needing attention for a long time, and now that CCP is taking the time to smooth of the rough edges and add a bit of polish to the game, you're concerned that you're not getting new toys. Why do you need to have new shiny things in order to be convinced that the game is being improved? Are you not capable of playing the game without a novel shiny thing to keep you entertained?

Darth Vapour
Posted - 2011.07.04 12:18:00 - [32]
 

If they do nothing but bugfixing I'm fine with that. But what we see is all sorts of new stuff added which is only loosely connected to EVE gameplay, like PI, EVE-Gate and Incarna and these things are forced onto the players.

So we get the worst of both worlds, not the 100% dedication to improving existing features and the introduction of entirely new things that are poorly implemented.



Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.04 12:39:00 - [33]
 

I'd quite like to see FW get fixed

Aodha Khan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.04 12:51:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/07/2011 12:51:41
Originally by: Mara Rinn


Just because you're not getting new fancy ships every six months, doesn't mean CCP is standing still.




Eve, the game, has been standing still for 2-3 years now. Many features added more than 2 years ago have been left to rot.

FW is a perfect example.

The Newface
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.04 12:54:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
They never stopped...
Linkage



This is just a fantastic link, look thought that list that was put there 2008 and see how many things that made it through so farÖ

Eve is a very special game, I canít think of any other game where you actually plan a year ahead for your characters. I think this is also why people get so upset when CCP changes things without communication or pull stunts like using the very limited development power they have in EVE now days to put in a cosmetic item for 60$

When you plan your game a year ahead of time you really need to trust CCP that the game will still be fun a year into the future. I spend 720 euro a year on EVE already (4 accounts) not counting the times I have to refill my valet with ISK from PLEX.
Trust, thatís what needs to be rebuilt

The Newface
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:01:00 - [36]
 

A good example on implementing huge changes more or less without warning is found in this thread: Massive 0.0 change That made upgrades we paid allot of isk for useless.

That could have been fine but look at the communication, the responsible developer said in the beginning of that thread that he would look into it and then 4000 replays later no wordÖ Thatís how I view CCP as a whole right now. Saying one thing and doing another (this is just an example)

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:04:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Darth Vapour
When can we expect something new ? Since wormholes we've had a few new industrial ships and that's it. PI, EVE-Gate and Incarna are all things outside the core EVE gameplay.



Apocrypha was an enormous expansion of content for EVE, the likes of which had not been done since the game was started.

Castor, Exodus or RMR never happened?

or did the game "start" with Quantum Rise?

Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:46:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Kerrisone
5 more months, allegedly but don't count on it.


That'll be $225 saved by me then, probably more.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 13:39:00 - [39]
 

Did anyone ask this in the press conference?

Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.07.06 13:57:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Not-Apsalar on 06/07/2011 13:58:30
Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: Dorvab Arnst
Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: CCP Fallout
We work on EVE all the time :) We detail a lot of the work that we do in our dev blogs, and of course you can always find game updates in the patch notes section of the site.


you are trolling right?
jb nerf, 0.0 nerf, oh agent finder wooot. and a fix to stop burning out your cpus by screwing ours sweet.


Just because your computer cant run it does not mean that is the same for everyone. I can run Incarna and CQ on my modest PC with a good 30FPS and guess what, my GPU never goes over 70c. Maybe...you should upgrade?


arrr someone who thinks they know what there talking about
if my cpu got to 70C it would be cooked. amd has a temp limit of 62c for auto shut down
besides i run up to 8 clients on my pc..lol
30 fps wow must be top end.
man barbie is switched off, dont feel the need to play dolly every time i need to dock to swap ammo


It's called proper cooling and ventilation. Has nothing to do with the number of clients on your PC and everything to do with improper cooling. If your PC cannot handle the high load, it doesn't matter what is causing it because the same load caused by any other program will do the same thing. EVE uses the same APIs as everyone else, and those APIs aren't overheating your components. You are overheating your components with a bad implementation.

In short, QQ

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:54:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Not-Apsalar


It's called proper cooling and ventilation. Has nothing to do with the number of clients on your PC and everything to do with improper cooling. If your PC cannot handle the high load, it doesn't matter what is causing it because the same load caused by any other program will do the same thing. EVE uses the same APIs as everyone else, and those APIs aren't overheating your components. You are overheating your components with a bad implementation.

In short, QQ


You're missing the point. Heat is generated by doing work. If the software uses the APIs inefficiently, then the CPU/GPU are going to be doing more work and generating more heat. The load that CQ puts on the CPU/GPU is ridiculous.

It's pretty damn obvious that CQ needs a lot of software optimization. If the software can't be optimized, then CCP needs to hope that GPUs magically become a lot more energy efficient or that water cooling becomes simple and cheap enough for the average gamer by the time that WoD comes out.

Telling people to get better at cooling their system makes as much sense as telling people that rush hour traffic can be solved by putting better AC systems in cars.


Dorvab Arnst
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:36:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: Dorvab Arnst
Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: CCP Fallout
We work on EVE all the time :) We detail a lot of the work that we do in our dev blogs, and of course you can always find game updates in the patch notes section of the site.


you are trolling right?
jb nerf, 0.0 nerf, oh agent finder wooot. and a fix to stop burning out your cpus by screwing ours sweet.


Just because your computer cant run it does not mean that is the same for everyone. I can run Incarna and CQ on my modest PC with a good 30FPS and guess what, my GPU never goes over 70c. Maybe...you should upgrade?


arrr someone who thinks they know what there talking about
if my cpu got to 70C it would be cooked. amd has a temp limit of 62c for auto shut down
besides i run up to 8 clients on my pc..lol
30 fps wow must be top end.
man barbie is switched off, dont feel the need to play dolly every time i need to dock to swap ammo


62c? Honestly. You clearly dont know what you are talking about. All chips have different temperatures that they are safe to run up to. For example, my Quad core can run safely up to about 75c. Its the same with graphics cards. They are all rated at different temperatures too. For example, my 9800GTX+ was rated as safe to run at temperatures up to 120c. Not that I would mind you. You really, REALLY need to go and learn a little more abaout hardware if you think that that little rant impressed anyone.

If you dont like CQ, dont use it. You have that option, just stop whining about it like a *****.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:19:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 06/07/2011 16:22:29
problem with CQ is not that it needs all this GFX horsepower to be realistic, its VERY POOR CCP programmers who are just learning how to write indoors 3d engine from scratch. So far they came up with ONE avatar in ONE room with VERY POOR lightning and VERY POOR detail that is taxing even the fastest gaming systems. All that while unpaid enthusiast are able to make GTA4 console-to-PC port look photorealistic and smooth on normal computers by just writing new shaders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEHtzSz8FT0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lmWFq_W7Qk

watch those videos, look at incarna room with "fabulous" lightning and holes in the floor, look at the video again and cry.

*VERY POOR!!!

Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:25:00 - [44]
 

meanwhile the majority of us are playing the game and not caring. Yawn op and followers should go do something besides waste bits on the internets.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:26:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Ezra Vouland
meanwhile the majority of us are playing the game and not caring. Yawn op and followers should go do something besides waste bits on the internets.



You speak for the majority?

Jason1138
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:31:00 - [46]
 

ezra's so busy playing and not caring that he took the time to type that

Ramma Lamma DingDong
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:33:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Ezra Vouland
meanwhile the majority of us are playing the game and not caring. Yawn op and followers should go do something besides waste bits on the internets.



You speak for the majority?



My guess is yes. He/she does speak for the majority since less than 10% of players actually even look at the forums.

The biggest joke about the past few days events is the self inflated assumption of the squeaky wheels that they represented the "vast majority" of the player base.

Though many of them may in fact be vast. They certainly are not the majority.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:45:00 - [48]
 


Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Ezra Vouland
meanwhile the majority of us are playing the game and not caring. Yawn op and followers should go do something besides waste bits on the internets.



You speak for the majority?



My guess is yes. He/she does speak for the majority since less than 10% of players actually even look at the forums.

The biggest joke about the past few days events is the self inflated assumption of the squeaky wheels that they represented the "vast majority" of the player base.

Though many of them may in fact be vast. They certainly are not the majority.


Your "guess" is that he does. Our guess is that he does not. Especially when "us" includes those who left eve because they saw the game was being abandoned. He may speak for new players who don't yet know how stale things can get in this game. But most people who have been playing for a year or more are probably hoping ccp will work on the inspace game.

But in any case I would like to see the statistics on the turnover. Eve used to have a long turnover for players. I wonder if that is shortening.


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