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Atreus Venom
Gallente
New Eden Hitmen
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:56:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Atreus Venom on 01/07/2011 21:57:12
to make it clear to everyone and i hope im right when i say this... the funkybacon show will start in about 2 hours

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:59:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Soden Rah on 01/07/2011 22:05:00
A lot of the 'rage' these past few weeks has been about the MT issues...

The statements to date do not have much in the way of info about what was talked about in terms of immersion and RP and CQ...

Namely the loss of the hanger view with players forced to disembark into CQ on every undock...
And the pod weirdly sitting out on the end of a gantry instead of being in its own room...
not to mention the litteny of lighting and technical issues...

So could Seleene comment at all as to whether these issues were discussed in detail?
and whether they will be properly addressed in the upcoming statement?
Even if he can't reveal details of the actual content.

I am concerned like most people about MT...
But if the MT issue gets solved that still leaves the issues we had with CQ pre launch, And I don't want those issues to be forgotten.

Also last question... Was there discussion about CCP communicating better [At all] with those testing and giving feedback on features on SiSi, and in development?

I may not be able to stay up for the live show... could you post a link to the download in this thread when its up?

Thanks

Soden Rah


EDIT: oh yes one other thought....

Will CCP be talking soon about what future things will be NeX items, an what will be in game player made items...

IE ship paint jobs, corp/alliance decals, CQ upgrades furniture and such, corp/alliance meeting rooms, promenade shops and such....

Basically are they going to charge extra for any/all the Incarna content...
If they are I will probably stay quit, I Was looking forward to having my own customised CQ and meeting up in alliance meeting rooms for strategic briefings and such...
proper immersion stuff...
and if they are going (after advertising it and making me want it for years) to try to make me pay extra for immersion I am afraid I will have to leave.

Cancel Align NOW
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:04:00 - [33]
 

Question to ask:
Where is my rug Mittani?

Hunter Verdeen
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:06:00 - [34]
 

Okay now it is worth tuning in for. We will have 2 people who have at least teleconferenced with CCP during the meetings. This means we hopefully will get some information grounded in fact rather than supposition and speculation as we have been getting over the past week and a half.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:08:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Hunter Verdeen
Okay now it is worth tuning in for. We will have 2 people who have at least teleconferenced with CCP during the meetings. This means we hopefully will get some information grounded in fact rather than supposition and speculation as we have been getting over the past week and a half.


You must be new at this.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:14:00 - [36]
 

Please read this post and ask Seleenne and Vile Rat if I am pretty damn close to what is going to happen.






Originally by: Vandrion
Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:17:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Soden Rah on 01/07/2011 22:18:12
Also... could you play "cows with guns" By Dana Lyons during the show??

Che Guevara, a revolutionary veal...

Sluht Hunter
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:19:00 - [38]
 

Already tuned in to the radio, waiting to hear the good news ( we hope).

Hunter Verdeen
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:21:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Originally by: Hunter Verdeen
Okay now it is worth tuning in for. We will have 2 people who have at least teleconferenced with CCP during the meetings. This means we hopefully will get some information grounded in fact rather than supposition and speculation as we have been getting over the past week and a half.


You must be new at this.


No actually I listen to ER a lot and to be honest Funky's show is not my cup of tea. I also figure what we will get is BS and I can not discuss what was said however I am good at hearing what has not been said and reading how things are being said. I will not jump to any conclusions as I am waiting for the official announcment but I want as much (or little) real info as I can get as soon as possible. We all should be intrested to see how guarded or frank someone who was in the meetings (sort of) is.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:52:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Salpun on 02/07/2011 01:16:32
>Was the Dust/EVE link talked about and clarified?
That is the next big issue in my opinion. < This questionLaughing

CCP has sayed they are going to keep the link small at first but the way they dealt with the issues this last week makes me douteful.

How do you seperate the pay for advantage Dust model and the EVE hopefully pay for advantage free model.

On another thread I speculated that possibly the solution was make P4advantage items in fights that involve eve players have a downside like easier targtabiliy from space. That way if a Dust team realises they are fighting a P4advantage using team they can call up help in eve to balance the sides. This will also boost eve players participationTwisted Evil. As everyone likes to kill stuff people have payed real money for.

Mervent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:57:00 - [41]
 

1 hour before show.

Dalketh
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:59:00 - [42]
 

Cool looking forward to it!

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:01:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Salpun
How do you seperate the pay for advantage Dust model and the EVE hopefully pay for advantage free model.


Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Please exit the game... WoW ------>

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:46:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Vandrion
Originally by: Salpun
How do you seperate the pay for advantage Dust model and the EVE hopefully pay for advantage free model.


SNIP image


Please exit the game... WoW ------>


Erm you needed to bold one more word...

It wasn't the best worded phrase but he said 'hopefully pay for advantage FREE model'

And in response to Salpun... I would like to get this mess sorted before thinking about the next one... particularly as CCP is not likely to release any details yet as to exactly how dust interacts with eve as they won't have worked it out yet. Asking for early feedback would be a good move on their part, but this mess needs to be fixed first.

Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:53:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Doctor Garamond Trebuchet on 01/07/2011 23:55:08
Funky I have a question for CSM. Did Hilmar apologize to the #CSM and seem actually remorseful. devs? part 2, is CCP sending out an email to all subs. I have unsubbed friends who no doubt get the email but don't check forums or the game.

Thanks for doing this, I suggested the CSM do a live stream like the AT, or Ustream, but got shot down over twitter. This is better than nada thanks again!


Quacka
Minmatar
Dark Tree Industries
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:56:00 - [46]
 

Loved the last one. Lets hope for more breaking news :P

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:07:00 - [47]
 

Tuned in. As of now I don't have a question other than yes/no?!

Very interested though to hear what we'll get tonight. Last show was pretty epic.

DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:07:00 - [48]
 

Sorry guys, we are having some technical issues, the show is pushed back 30 minutes. We're still coming.

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:10:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: DJ FunkyBacon
Sorry guys, we are having some technical issues, the show is pushed back 30 minutes. We're still coming.


Fair play, thanks for the update.

ROAR Exodus
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:13:00 - [50]
 

thats so ccp like

Ribaldry
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:30:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Ribaldry on 02/07/2011 00:51:43
Edited by: Ribaldry on 02/07/2011 00:49:52
Edited by: Ribaldry on 02/07/2011 00:49:06
This didn't get addressed last time, hopefully it will this time.

Obviously we can already purchase power items for real money with PLEX->ISK. One of the redeeming qualities of the PLEX system is that we can choose to not support the PLEX system ( and bazaar ). We can choose to earn the items in game. PLEX was also acceptable since it was a direct attack on 3rd party RMT which everyone favors.

PLEX a Zero Sum Game. AURUM is a one way conversion. Which means you can NEVER break even. I bought PLEX late last year, sold it, and later earned 350mil and "sold" the isk back by applying the new plex. You can't do this with AURUM. PLEX goes in but can't come back out.

Also, AURUM uses a bull**** marketing driven conversion rate ( price points ). You are only allowed to buy a $20 bill, but all the items cost $21 so you have to purchase $40. Another goal of this system is to disassociate the real life value of the currency so consumers will spend more than they want (see MS points or Zynga bucks or w/e). This is compounded since you have to deal with at least 2 currency conversions and possibly three.

I realize these are not questions. They are meant more as discussion points.

xxxTRUSTxxx
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:32:00 - [52]
 

shows begun

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:34:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: jackaloped on 02/07/2011 00:36:57
Question for any csm who knows:

Did CCP indicate when they may assign more devs to the actual gameplay of eve (in space eve)? If so, when and how many?

thanks

DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:35:00 - [54]
 

We are now live. 3 minutes until we're up and talking. Cartman is on for the moment.

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:41:00 - [55]
 

could you play the background music slightly quieter... it makes it harder to hear the guys on the phone...


thanks

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:48:00 - [56]
 

Press conferences on Tuesday... Huh?

And, am I hearing that we will in fact get our CSM/CCP statements tomorrow - this is confirmed?

Ammzi
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:51:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Ammzi on 02/07/2011 00:51:01
Question to CSM in EVE radio.

Do you think the emergency meeting hosted by CCP was a good idea?


And my greetings to Doc Nielsen from Ammzi :)

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.07.02 01:03:00 - [58]
 

lol this is like talking to beavis and butthead...what's the point?

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.07.02 01:07:00 - [59]
 

Can we have thoughts on the non- MT issues... as I outlined in my post earlier in this thread...

I would like to know if the MT issues have drowned them out.
Because those issues are still important.

Kord
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.07.02 01:09:00 - [60]
 

Question for the panel:

Has a follow up meeting between CCP and the CSM (either physically or by VOIP/Skype etc) been organized or do both parties believe that all issues have been resolved without the need for further discussion?



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