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Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:40:00 - [1]
 

Looking for experienced EVE capsuleers with a split personality who can tell me about their experience running two EVE Online clients with Incarna at the same time.

Starting with the actual system requirements, what do we have to add on top to have both clients running smoothly with high graphics settings? I mean we all want to enjoy the graphics, I love those turrets!

And yes, I want to use CQ, so no option here of disabling it.

I know the limit is the sky (or better a win in the lottery), but what would you consider a reasonable systems configuration for this?

Thx for your time and thoughts.

alexreborn
Invicta.
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:44:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: alexreborn on 30/06/2011 19:45:08
Reasonable expectations would be so:

Core 2 Duo >=2ghz
4 gbs ram
8800 gt or higher or 5650 or higher

My estimate is that the current average population of PC gamers are currently running a rig in or around this area, obviously with some deviation. Therefore I think it stands to reason the reasonable expectations from CCP are to be able to get dual boxing done on this system quite easily.

Infact dual boxing without incarna with high settings should work fine on a rig like this.

Actual:

Probably Qore 2 Quad
16 gbs ram
480 gtx or w/e the newest one is.

ScreenWipe
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:54:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: ScreenWipe on 30/06/2011 19:56:56

My set up:

Core2Quad 2.4ghz (Q6600)
4gb ram
GTX 460 768mb
Dual box: Dell 24" + BlueH 22"

2 accounts: full quality or 7 accounts performance

No issues, I <3 Incarna! Wink

5p4c3 Truck3r
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:55:00 - [4]
 

I would list my set up, but after running two accts. for two days my video card went up in smoke.


rip.


General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:56:00 - [5]
 

*Q9550 at 3.9GHz
*DDR2 800 8-gigs
*GTX 570 (main)
*GTX 260 (physx)

that's what i play on. all settings on high except interior effects on medium. assault/HQ incursions turn anti-aliasing off. my GTX 570 will only get to around 66 celcius at best. now i can run all high settings, but then it's around 77 celcius and that makes me a tad uncomfortable.

Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:01:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: General Trajan
... my GTX 570 will only get to around 66 celcius at best. now i can run all high settings, but then it's around 77 celcius and that makes me a tad uncomfortable.


I play on a ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 and found out that its maximum temperature is 85 degrees Celsius, before the emergency shutdown kicks in. Maybe your GPU can take the same or even more.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:03:00 - [7]
 

I run up to four clients using:

Intel i7 2600K
Gigabyte P67A-UD7-B3 mobo
16GB Corsair XMS 2000mhz Ram
EVGA Classified SE GTX590
EVE loaded on a OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 1.8" 180GB Solid State Drive
Powered by a Corsair AX 1200 PSU

1920x1200 max graphics settings. Window mode dragged to full screen.

I like my EVE to look pretty.

If you go with non-max settings you certainly don't need a system like this. But it is prolly good for a year or so before needing an overhaul. So not a bad investment.

General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:07:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Originally by: General Trajan
... my GTX 570 will only get to around 66 celcius at best. now i can run all high settings, but then it's around 77 celcius and that makes me a tad uncomfortable.


I play on a ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 and found out that its maximum temperature is 85 degrees Celsius, before the emergency shutdown kicks in. Maybe your GPU can take the same or even more.


indeed it can, but it's mostly with my comfortability factor with the heat. not to mention i do have the 570 overclocked to 800/1600/2000


Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:10:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
...
EVGA Classified SE GTX590
...


Sweet GPU there, sir! But I mean, reasonable! Very Happy

General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:10:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
I run up to four clients using:

Intel i7 2600K
Gigabyte P67A-UD7-B3 mobo
16GB Corsair XMS 2000mhz Ram
EVGA Classified SE GTX590
EVE loaded on a OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 1.8" 180GB Solid State Drive
Powered by a Corsair AX 1200 PSU

1920x1200 max graphics settings. Window mode dragged to full screen.

I like my EVE to look pretty.

If you go with non-max settings you certainly don't need a system like this. But it is prolly good for a year or so before needing an overhaul. So not a bad investment.




you sir, are worthy to be hated on Laughing

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: De''Veldrin on 30/06/2011 20:20:36

I dual box with max settings on a 3 year old out of the box HP m9400 series Windows Vista PC with 8 GB of RAM.

The only change I have made is upgrading the video card to an NVIDIA GT-420 when the fan in the one that came with it died after the warranty expired. (This was preIncarna, so don't even go there. I have had no issues with heat from running dual incarna clients, even when they sit in station for hours on end).

Seems to work fine for me.

Edit: Typing derp

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:20:00 - [12]
 

I can run 3 clients on an i7 920, 12GB, GTX580 with GTX260 Physx offload card with no problem.

When I want to launch a fourth client, I make my servants pedal harder.

Ded Moroz
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:21:00 - [13]
 

2009-spec computer

Quad Core i7-920
8gb RAM
NVIDIA Geforce gtx 260
2x monitors at 1680x1050

Running 2 clients on my 2 monitors just fine both pre-incarna and now. Runs great with no choppy fps.

cba to check the temperatures. don't really care as long as it works. Its not a laptop ffs, so temperatures don't really matter to me.

Bloodburn
Gallente
Pray Mantis Private Military Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:22:00 - [14]
 

What is wrong with everyones computer that they need such beasts to run the game on max?

I have an old ass
q6600 2.4ghz quad core intel
geforce 8800 GTS 640mb card
4gb ram

My computer is 5 years old and coated in dust.

I can run the game in windowed mode at max graphics at 1900 resolution. Looks amazing.

Update your drivers people.

Ospie
Ransom and Kill
Core.Impulse
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:24:00 - [15]
 

AMD Phenom II X4 965 ~3.4Ghz
GeForce GTX 460
8GB RAM

Have no trouble running two clients at same time in CQ at max graphics, doesn't make my GPU temperature soar either.

Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:32:00 - [16]
 

Somehow, I don't see laptops being comfortable with this game anymore.

Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:35:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: ScreenWipe
Edited by: ScreenWipe on 30/06/2011 19:56:56

My set up:

Core2Quad 2.4ghz (Q6600)
4gb ram
GTX 460 768mb
Dual box: Dell 24" + BlueH 22"

2 accounts: full quality or 7 accounts performance

No issues, I <3 Incarna! Wink


Post your FPS results or your full of it.

AMD Phenom II X4 925 @ 2.8 gig
4 Gig.
HD 5750 1 Gig

@ Max settings 1920x1080 I get a 60FPS in space.
IN CQ I get 30, unless I look at the mirror or hallway then it drops to 20.

That is a single client. If you think you'll be able to run dual maxed out clients in CQ without serious FPS dropoff, your dreaming.
And as the mirror should show you, you haven't seen anything yet. If you think that rig will run even 1 account once they open up walking in stations, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Laughing


Ded Moroz
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:57:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Duvida
Somehow, I don't see laptops being comfortable with this game anymore.


actually its not that bad. I have a 15" Macbook pro 2011 model which runs eve great. Comfortable enough to play in bed with laptop on my lap.

Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:59:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Speaker4 theDead

And as the mirror should show you, you haven't seen anything yet. If you think that rig will run even 1 account once they open up walking in stations, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Laughing




Indeed an interesting point you make here. Walking in stations. Maybe the CQ is a test for that, already with lots of features. Missing the mass of avatars though.

Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:22:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Erichk Knaar
I can run 3 clients on an i7 920, 12GB, GTX580 with GTX260 Physx offload card with no problem.



What does that mean, with the "high end" card and the lower one for "Physx offload"?

Joe Astor
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:29:00 - [21]
 

Core 2 Quad (Q6600) CPU
4GB of DDR3 RAN
ATI Radeon 6970 2GB Graphics card feeding into 2 Viewsonic 24 inch monitors running at 1920x1080 res.

Runs 2-3 clients without a problem.

Koragoni SkyKnight
Amarr
Completely Bored Senseless
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:35:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Koragoni SkyKnight on 02/07/2011 09:35:57
My gaming rig is a bit older.

Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4ghz)
4gb DDR2
ATI Radeon HD3870

I can run two clients one per monitor. What I've noticed with CQ (before I stopped playing waiting to see what the CSM/CCP do) is the limitation for me and multiple clients wasn't RAM or CPU, it wasn't even really the GPU. It was the hard disk. The loading time for CQ got noticeably faster once I moved a second EVE installation to a second disk. I have three 500gb SATA2 disks in this desktop, with Windows on the first, and one EVE installation on each of the others I was able to get two clients docking and loading up CQ within 15 seconds simultaneously. I was still stuck with 15fps at best, and it's still much faster to dock with CQ disabled.

My laptop gets 1-2 FPS with CQ online, that onboard Intel just can't do much.

Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:41:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Dr Prometheus on 02/07/2011 09:44:01
Edited by: Dr Prometheus on 02/07/2011 09:43:04
Old rig with some newer parts; (did replace them a few weeks earlier)

AMD Phenom X4 9950 BE
8 GB Ram (was 4GB)
AMD Radeon HD6950 2GB (was AMD Radeon HD4870 1GB)

Running 4 clients with high settings all CQ enabled with around 40 FPS in the CQ. (Currently at 16x80x1050) all Windowed full screen mode.

Heat: CPU stays at max 72 degrees, GPU unknown.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:47:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Originally by: Erichk Knaar
I can run 3 clients on an i7 920, 12GB, GTX580 with GTX260 Physx offload card with no problem.



What does that mean, with the "high end" card and the lower one for "Physx offload"?


Nvidia lets you use an older card just to do Physx. Its like SLI, except you only need one "good" card for graphics, and can use one "low end" card for just Physx. Or in other combinations with SLI. I upgraded from GTX260, but its still useful just for Physx, so I kept it in the machine.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:49:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Atreus Venom
Originally by: Erichk Knaar
...


Seriously man why tell us that?


Oh, look how "edgy" the peasant thinks it is.

Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:52:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Koragoni SkyKnight
Edited by: Koragoni SkyKnight on 02/07/2011 09:35:57
My gaming rig is a bit older.

Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4ghz)
4gb DDR2
ATI Radeon HD3870

I can run two clients one per monitor. What I've noticed with CQ (before I stopped playing waiting to see what the CSM/CCP do) is the limitation for me and multiple clients wasn't RAM or CPU, it wasn't even really the GPU. It was the hard disk. The loading time for CQ got noticeably faster once I moved a second EVE installation to a second disk. I have three 500gb SATA2 disks in this desktop, with Windows on the first, and one EVE installation on each of the others I was able to get two clients docking and loading up CQ within 15 seconds simultaneously. I was still stuck with 15fps at best, and it's still much faster to dock with CQ disabled.

My laptop gets 1-2 FPS with CQ online, that onboard Intel just can't do much.


So a SSD might be worth it for running Incarna?

Snake Scofield
Posted - 2011.07.02 10:09:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Snake Scofield on 02/07/2011 10:09:12
Originally by: Speaker4 theDead

@ Max settings 1920x1080 I get a 60FPS in space.
IN CQ I get 30, unless I look at the mirror or hallway then it drops to 20.

That is a single client. If you think you'll be able to run dual maxed out clients in CQ without serious FPS dropoff, your dreaming.
And as the mirror should show you, you haven't seen anything yet. If you think that rig will run even 1 account once they open up walking in stations, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Laughing




Because CQ is currently optimized for all platforms and will never be improved.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.02 10:23:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Atreus Venom
...


You're e-stalking me now. Is it the monocle?

I know it must cause some confusing emotions to well up inside you.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, to be honest. Embarassed

However, so as not to crush your poor heart, I would consider, having a bad bromance with you, but only if you become my bronie first.

Meet you at my luxury palace on Arshat III.


 

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