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Shiangti
Caldari
Revelation Exploration Inc.
Without Remorse.
Posted - 2011.07.01 05:10:00 - [271]
 

How hard is it for any of you CSM to say yes or no? How is that NDA? They either intended to sell non-vanity stuff or they didn't.

SteamViper
Posted - 2011.07.01 06:40:00 - [272]
 

Give the CSM guys at least a nights rest to get over the travelling etc.To-day is the real deal.I would hope that they realize and I think they do what the lot of the player base wants.If they fumble the questions or dont get straight answers the whole project of this exercise is lost. CCP is like a guy who let you down and then again and then again.Trust takes a long time to be earned and a short time to lose.If I went to Ladbrokes or William Hills they would have stopped taking bets.Fingers crossed someone pulls this one out of the hat.I've been here since 2003.I wish you well and good health.I have already decided to call it a day and retire to a new MMO regardless of the outcome.But I hope things work out for the rest of you all.

Mattias Kerensky
Minmatar
The Flying Tigers
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:03:00 - [273]
 

Finally got my new graphics card and numerous other comp upgrades, eve looks great, CQ runs at 40 fps where flying through space runs at 60 (at max settings), but TBH I have more heat coming off the card when I play World of Tanks, don't see what the deal is there. I would like the option to leave the ship manually, like a lot of folks, but meh, if they don't bring it back, I'll deal, CQ is pretty cool anyway, and I can show it off to folks that come visit. The only real issue I have now is game affecting MT items. And also timetables on ship skins. :)

RedClaws
Amarr
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:18:00 - [274]
 

WTH... The only thing they need to do to re-add ship spinning is make CQ start with a camera position around your ship and let us control it... The ship is there, the camera is there...

Sure there will still be performance issues for some but that'll be ironed out eventually, and you get to keep the most iconic thing about EVE.

Talia Yvormes
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:18:00 - [275]
 

We'll see what happens then. As mentioned earlier it is quite a shame that it is not optional to disembark from your ship into the CQ, however I am not overly bothered by it. Depending on what tomorrow's answer will be (and let us hope you can actually go into detailed information then) I will either be very pleased, or not so much.

I look forward to some more concrete answers soon™.

Andraine
Coded Arms Corp
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:22:00 - [276]
 

C&P: RE: station View

I think what annoys people most is that it's not even an OPTION. I'm not talking about turning CQ off in the settings, that's already there... and we get a horrible picture of a door. What is reasonable and realistic, is to be able to dock in your ship and still be in your ship while in the station if you're just quickly making some adjustments....for example, you need to fit an extra hardener or drop off some loot, or why not, admire your sexy ship and spin it a few times!

From a Practical and immersive point of view....as it is, doesn't work at the moment

I've said it so many times, but, you should be able to exit your ship from the station view and enter the captains quarters. This, Just for the people that want to walk in the station, sit on the sofa and other pointless activities. Each to their own.

Does that sound like something that should happen? I honestly don't think CCP are taking this particular issue seriously. It's getting buried under all the monocle and MT talk.

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:29:00 - [277]
 

Originally by: Rayna Ravenoff
Originally by: The Ying
The thing is you don't need to grind for SP. you don't need to grind for a ship by just buying a PLEX. Why the <censored/> change it then?


Training is too slow. I want remaps and training accelerators. And gold/platinum ammo so I can cheat my way through complexes. Yes, yes, I know that will ruin the game, blah, blah, blah. I still want it.

So basically, you admit you're a spoiled fcking child who wants what you want RIGHT NOW.

Get out. Every other game on the market is designed for you. All of them cater better to your "WHAAH I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO INVEST ANYTHING JUST LET ME WIN NOW ;_;" mentality.

ScreenWipe
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:30:00 - [278]
 

I agree on one point, the door looks ******g horrible, maybe they should put up a tv screen with a view of the undock point.

Anyways, i hope CCP does not stand down, change is good!

Andraine
Coded Arms Corp
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:33:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: ScreenWipe
I agree on one point, the door looks ******g horrible, maybe they should put up a tv screen with a view of the undock point.

Anyways, i hope CCP does not stand down, change is good!


Not always. But an option isn't too much to ask. that's what any good game gives. If you want to spend all your time in station in your CQ then great, fantastic, brilliant, give that boy a banana! If you want to sit in your ship in station, you should be able to do that too.

Talia Yvormes
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:43:00 - [280]
 

Edited by: Talia Yvormes on 01/07/2011 10:53:00
I've never had much use for the old station view myself and generally I don't mind either direction overly much. Maybe add the option to change the static background as a compromise?

As for Rayna: Are they really that long? Two-three years later and I have essentially maxed out half of all sub capital "class" ships in the game as opposed to WoW & Warhammer where it can take half a year to get to max level + get all the "maxed out" gear. I would reason that the current skill timers are quite balanced to allow uniqueness among the player base while at the same time offering up easily accessable rewards such as T2 frigates (remember these are the "end-game" if you will for frigate pilots). One must concider that the latter two games also require constant playing to achieve said goals. Sure you need ISK but EVE is very open ended in this aspect and while missions are a form of grind there's also trading and building/PI for those who enjoy not having to grind through rats.

As such, and there is of course tons one could discuss on such a topic, I find that items that carry a performance enhancer isn't really neccecary but would rather elevate my stress level while playing this game as I would then have to spend RL money that I could lose in a heartbeat just to compete. I play EVE Online to relax, not to have as a second job. Smile

Andraine
Coded Arms Corp
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:49:00 - [281]
 

Originally by: Talia Yvormes
I've never had much use for the old station view myself and generally I don't mind either direction overly much. Maybe add the option to change the static background?


You never had much use for it? But that was the only option and it was practical. Surly it's better than a static background.

Talia Yvormes
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:56:00 - [282]
 

Originally by: Andraine

You never had much use for it? But that was the only option and it was practical. Surly it's better than a static background.


I always made due with the menu-bar on the right, tbh. It was a nice view to see the ship before they allowed us to view them from the info screens, though. Not to say that others didn't have use for it, of course, I am merely mentioning that I do not personally think of it as a huge cause to grow gray hairs prematurely, although I can understand you will miss it yourself.

Zephyrus II
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:58:00 - [283]
 

Even if they are just a PR tool, they give me hope.

Godspeed, CSM. Godspeed.

Franz Sigel
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:17:00 - [284]
 

Originally by: Typhoon Warfreak
The more I read these post (by the same people), the more I see it as mindless mob mentality. Why? What more do you want CSM and CCP to do? The way the behaviour is on this forum, people (the minority as well), are demanding CCP bend to their will.

(...)

The protestors on this forum have an air of self-importance, as if EVE should bend to their will. Do this, that, this, that, then I'll resub. Really? Your $132 for the year isn't even enough to pay the wages of a staff member for a day. Why should you get special treatment?

And all these references to WW2 Germany towards CCP. Really? Is this the level of maturity we have reached? Where all we can do is insult people using terms that normally, in real life, would have us beaten on the floor.

I'm against pay to win. I support microstransaction in that they are vanity items only, and economy-involved for non-vanity (BPC, trade ins). I will not support ships appearing out of thin air. Personally, I thought EVE was a game with smart players. I guess I'm wrong to some extent.


Full ACK!! On the one hand, CCP has fumbled a lot and has to improve on several things. On the other hand, the greater part of posts here are pathetic to a degree that's just distasteful! This seems to be some kind of welfare mentality - to be demanding as heck and ignoring all aspects of practical life. Funny that these very people most surely would see themselves as "independant"!

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:23:00 - [285]
 

Yawn *stretches*

Zagdul
Gallente
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:24:00 - [286]
 

Edited by: Zagdul on 01/07/2011 11:25:56
Quote:
@TheMittani
Alright, I'm pleased. #tweetfleet #eveonline #csm6


edit:
3 ****ing words say so much.

ok you jita protesters. go home back to your level 4 missions.

Imuran
Zentor Industries
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:26:00 - [287]
 

Sounds positve

shilpi
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:28:00 - [288]
 

@Trebor
We have discussed the whole "gold ammo" situation. The major work left is drafting statements.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:39:00 - [289]
 

Originally by: shilpi
@Trebor
We have discussed the whole "gold ammo" situation. The major work left is drafting statements.


Well ****, what am I gonna do with all these pitchforks and torches now?

Pearljammer 5657
Caldari
Last Exit.
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:49:00 - [290]
 

Do the best you can guys and go for the throat, promise them a bad review and encouragement of unsubs to community if CCP doesnt agree to our demans

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 11:57:00 - [291]
 

Originally by: Pearljammer 5657
Do the best you can guys and go for the throat, promise them a bad review and encouragement of unsubs to community if CCP doesnt agree to our demans


lol - is de mans the guy who's gonna break their heads when they say yes to p2w?

Uuali
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:16:00 - [292]
 

Originally by: San Severina
Originally by: Pearljammer 5657
Do the best you can guys and go for the throat, promise them a bad review and encouragement of unsubs to community if CCP doesnt agree to our demans


lol - is de mans the guy who's gonna break their heads when they say yes to p2w?


No! De mans who's gonna break yo face if yous don't do what we say! (Thick Bronx accent)

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:45:00 - [293]
 

So, any of my fellow Gallenteans totally stoked for the Gallente CQ to come out? Myself, I can't wait!

shilpi
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:49:00 - [294]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
I predict so much spin that if you grabbed that statement you would take off like a helicopter.

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:55:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Zagdul
Edited by: Zagdul on 01/07/2011 11:25:56
Quote:
@TheMittani
Alright, I'm pleased. #tweetfleet #eveonline #csm6


edit:
3 ****ing words say so much.

ok you jita protesters. go home back to your level 4 missions.


You do realize that the things that please Mittens (and the Goons) are not always in the best interests of EVE players in general?



Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:59:00 - [296]
 

Are we 100% sure Mittani and Trebor_CSM are real people and not CCP alts ?

Inipinipocoloco
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:09:00 - [297]
 

torches and pitchforks still on standby

the eve community is the best community and if CCP kills EVE we will show them what real riots are

Maya Silverman
Dawn of a new Empire
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:11:00 - [298]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
I predict so much spin that if you grabbed that statement you would take off like a helicopter.

Darth Vapour
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:13:00 - [299]
 

Quote:
Trebor_CSM
We just got a first look at a work-in-progress of Time Dilation. Nice. #csm6 #tweetfleet


You know the end product will be nothing like that I presume ? The last 3 Fanfests had lovely work-in-progress presentations of Ambulation/Walking in Stations and what we got was one ugly room.

divanoo
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:21:00 - [300]
 

Of course all the CSM are fanboys, they get free trips to Iceland (in your expense) to talk about this game and lol at the people protesting (24 left in the mass-protest ingame channel)


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