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Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:27:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
Quote:
Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
We will not be tweeting specific details because we want to lock down exact details so there will be no misunderstandings #tweetfleet #csm6
52 seconds ago


Translation: "Hilmar just gave us the big FU and we'll wait until the end of the meetings before we talk about it."


More like: "Hilmar just served us the big rotten Shark and we'll have to wait until we off toilet again in a few hours to continue the meeting"

Lex Zen
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:27:00 - [32]
 

Posting at the bleeding edge of the rampaging herd of drama-llamas.

Silas Cooper
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:27:00 - [33]
 

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
@
@Rotosequence No awesome or bull**** detected so far #csm6 #tweetfleet
3 minutes ago

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:29:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Ciar Meara on 30/06/2011 11:30:16
Well like any decent negotiator knows you don't storm into a meeting debating the hot issues first.

Its a game of give and take and buildup, honestly, its like your all wearing monocles of +15 impatience.

and its fermented shark.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:30:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
Edited by: Boaz Hedion Merkava on 30/06/2011 11:25:55
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
All the CSMs do have monocles, btw #csm6 #tweetfleet

Oh good for you you f*cker. You should have brought them a box of stupid monocles instead and immediately ask the big yellow question.


To quote the Downfall CCP video "Maybe if they see us wearing them they'll be a little more freewheeling with their wallets...". See it here if you haven't already.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:39:00 - [36]
 


My Postman
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:40:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Desert Ice78
Logging into Jita and locking lazers onto monument......


Can i assist with my 1400mm Howitzers?

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:42:00 - [38]
 

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
We are getting econometric briefing about preliminary results of introduction of AUR. Double-secret NDA stuff. #tweetfleet #csm6
6 minutes ago

Not sure if I like where this is going. So they're showing the CSM how great AUR has been over the last few days.

Next up: "Imagine for a minute, just a minute... if we sold... SHIPS with AUR, wouldn't that be great?!"

bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:47:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
We are getting econometric briefing about preliminary results of introduction of AUR. Double-secret NDA stuff. #tweetfleet #csm6
6 minutes ago

Not sure if I like where this is going. So they're showing the CSM how great AUR has been over the last few days.

Next up: "Imagine for a minute, just a minute... if we sold... SHIPS with AUR, wouldn't that be great?!"


Hilmar: Guys, we have sold over 9000 monocles by now, we are ze win.


Dana Jass
Caldari
Skullduggery Inc
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:56:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
We are getting econometric briefing about preliminary results of introduction of AUR. Double-secret NDA stuff. #tweetfleet #csm6
6 minutes ago

Not sure if I like where this is going. So they're showing the CSM how great AUR has been over the last few days.

Next up: "Imagine for a minute, just a minute... if we sold... SHIPS with AUR, wouldn't that be great?!"


I don't know why everyone is assuming the CSM are total morons. I mean, would that be enough to convince YOU to sign off on P2W? I'd imagine that showing sales figures for AUR stuff is gonna be relevant to discussing keeping/expanding the vanity-only items, and NeX pricing for those, which is another issue that CCP is gonna want to discuss with the CSM, but I seriously doubt that it's gonna persuade the CSM that P2W is a good idea; their main concern is keeping the game fun, not CCP's bottom line.

Markus Jome
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:58:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: My Postman
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Logging into Jita and locking lazers onto monument......


Can i assist with my 1400mm Howitzers?


I'll give you a hand with my vargur if this meeting fails.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:59:00 - [42]
 

What would be considered a success? I doubt we'll get much real news today.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:01:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Dana Jass
Originally by: Harcosi
Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
We are getting econometric briefing about preliminary results of introduction of AUR. Double-secret NDA stuff. #tweetfleet #csm6
6 minutes ago

Not sure if I like where this is going. So they're showing the CSM how great AUR has been over the last few days.

Next up: "Imagine for a minute, just a minute... if we sold... SHIPS with AUR, wouldn't that be great?!"


I don't know why everyone is assuming the CSM are total morons. I mean, would that be enough to convince YOU to sign off on P2W? I'd imagine that showing sales figures for AUR stuff is gonna be relevant to discussing keeping/expanding the vanity-only items, and NeX pricing for those, which is another issue that CCP is gonna want to discuss with the CSM, but I seriously doubt that it's gonna persuade the CSM that P2W is a good idea; their main concern is keeping the game fun, not CCP's bottom line.


The CSM know a lot more about Eve than I do. I'm not assuming they're morons, I'm assuming CCP are morons.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:03:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 30/06/2011 12:06:12
Originally by: Dana Jass
I don't know why everyone is assuming the CSM are total morons. I mean, would that be enough to convince YOU to sign off on P2W? I'd imagine that showing sales figures for AUR stuff is gonna be relevant to discussing keeping/expanding the vanity-only items, and NeX pricing for those, which is another issue that CCP is gonna want to discuss with the CSM, but I seriously doubt that it's gonna persuade the CSM that P2W is a good idea; their main concern is keeping the game fun, not CCP's bottom line.

I do hope so, too. I hope the CSM lets CCP show them all they have got to show and out of courtesy, but then advises against it all. If the CSM is really good can he argue that any projections coming of those first numbers are just speculation, but players clicking "unsubscribe" is a fact and something that can be worked with right now.

Markus Jome
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:05:00 - [45]
 

I don't think CSM is an assembly of "morons", but they have obviously only the power or hearing that CCP gives them. And CCP gave them in the last months considerably less than what would have been wise...

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:05:00 - [46]
 

My tone was a bit too harsh. I'm actually a bit more trusting in the CSM than my last post said.

tika te
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:12:00 - [47]
 

Quote:
Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead @ @Eve_Beefcake This gives us background that will help in later discussion. Also the disclosure transparency is good


there has benn more than enough of discussions. now results and clear statements are what we all need.
if it goes by the players nex shop should dissapear and all related discussion would also do. ccp should concentrate on ingame issues.
unfortunatelly ccp won't do that.

Vain Eldritch
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:17:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Vain Eldritch on 30/06/2011 12:17:22
Originally by: Markus Jome
Originally by: My Postman
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Logging into Jita and locking lazers onto monument......


Can i assist with my 1400mm Howitzers?


I'll give you a hand with my vargur if this meeting fails.


In this situation, how do you define failure?

It would be highly amusing if the players signed an NDA and are unable talk about the meeting...

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:17:00 - [49]
 

Quote:
TheMittani The Mittani
We're in the nitty gritty examining metrics related to the crisis, seeing which player demos have unsubbed. So far, things are ok. #csm6
10 seconds ago


OK as in Eve will survive will the subscribed people and CCP don't have to care, or there were enough people that unsubscribed to push CCP to listen?

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:18:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
All the CSMs do have monocles, btw #csm6 #tweetfleet


That's game over right there, isn't it?

Bon Hedus
Amarr
Voice of the Blood Raiders
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:19:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Maplestone
Originally by: Harcosi
All the CSMs do have monocles, btw #csm6 #tweetfleet


That's game over right there, isn't it?


I am assuming they mean real monocles for sarcasm purposes.

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:22:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Bon Hedus
I am assuming they mean real monocles for sarcasm purposes.


/facepalm

*wanders off to fix my sarcasm detector*

Vierego
Vierego's Junk Imports
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:23:00 - [53]
 


Ordered a monocole minus the female boots, who even like those anyways?
Hilmar is being a ######
Aurum time
Okay, aurum is coming out

Jail Baiter
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:27:00 - [54]
 


IT'S A TRAP!!!

Juliette Red
K. Corp
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:37:00 - [55]
 

Internet spaceships , serious business.

Some people really need to take everything said with a pinch of salt. Both parties want this to be a successful meeting , there will be compromise on both sides but I bet the outcome will be satisfactory to most people.

NEX will be here to stay IMO , but it will have massively reduced prices (99c per item etc), default will be ship spinning (and used for things like changing ships/refitting etc) with CQ required if you want to use NEX or any non ship related services (market etc)

It really isnt difficult to think that those changes can be made and most people will be happy as long is there is a guarantee that no pay-to-win MT will be put into EvE for say the next 3 years with a review conducted with that years CSM to see if its a viable oportunity. That gets us what people want to see now but leaves the door oopen if CCP wish to consider trying to change it.



Charlie Ponzi
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:45:00 - [56]
 


Zeet A'Dron
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:48:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Lex Zen
Posting at the bleeding edge of the rampaging herd of drama-llamas.


Just behind you getting a whiff of the various waste gases being emitted.

Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:51:00 - [58]
 

Keep the tweets coming please? I 2 don't have this Twitter you speak of.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:53:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Harcosi on 30/06/2011 12:54:11
Originally by: Jimmy Duce
Keep the tweets coming please? I 2 don't have this Twitter you speak of.


They're on lunch at the moment, there hasn't been an update that I can see for the last 37 minutes.

I'm updating the OP whenever there's a new one, I'll bump it back up when there's an update.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.06.30 12:55:00 - [60]
 

This thread's going to go places.

I look forward to a day of enjoyable tinfoil hattery.

Mr Epeen Cool


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