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Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:05:00 - [1]
 

I bought a carrier funded by a PLEX I bought with real life money. You see, I make decent money in real life but have little time to mission etc to make ISK because of work and my wife and three kids.

But I lost my carrier to a Nyx. So how come I didn't win?

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:06:00 - [2]
 

What you're missing is a monocle.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:08:00 - [3]
 

So with this so called "monocle", I will win EVE?

Nuniki
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:09:00 - [4]
 

You didn't pay enough. L2Pay noob.

Aelius
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Dark Matter Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:09:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jasdemi
What you're missing is a monocle.

^^ what this guy said... Im sure if you were wearing a monacle you wouldn't had lost your carrier.

Coruso Malefactor
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:10:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Coruso Malefactor on 29/06/2011 21:10:02
What you are describing is not P2W (pay 2 win). Quite simply you poorly used some ISK gained from selling a PLEX.

An example of P2W would be purchasing some unique mod or ship that is overpowered (requires little character skills to use) with Aurum. That is the eventual road that EVE is heading down.

GOOD NEWS! Give it a few months and you will be able to buy the aforementioned unique mods or ships that are overpowered to hunt down and destroy that Nyx.

Cheers!

Takseen
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:10:00 - [7]
 

You got outbid by the Nyx player.

Riddick Liddell
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:10:00 - [8]
 

The guy with the Nyx had a Monocle. Nuf said

Painpill
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:14:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Coruso Malefactor
Edited by: Coruso Malefactor on 29/06/2011 21:10:02
What you are describing is not P2W (pay 2 win). Quite simply you poorly used some ISK gained from selling a PLEX.

An example of P2W would be purchasing some unique mod or ship that is overpowered (requires little character skills to use) with Aurum. That is the eventual road that EVE is heading down.

GOOD NEWS! Give it a few months and you will be able to buy the aforementioned unique mods or ships that are overpowered to hunt down and destroy that Nyx.

Cheers!


Hi im new in this game i have a question for you, i have under 7 mill skill points and bought a alot of PLEX with real cash, i sold them for isk in order to buy my fully Estamel fitted CNR but 5 Maelstroms instapopped me when undocking, why didnt i win?

Coruso Malefactor
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:20:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Coruso Malefactor on 29/06/2011 21:20:16
Originally by: Painpill
Originally by: Coruso Malefactor
Edited by: Coruso Malefactor on 29/06/2011 21:10:02
What you are describing is not P2W (pay 2 win). Quite simply you poorly used some ISK gained from selling a PLEX.

An example of P2W would be purchasing some unique mod or ship that is overpowered (requires little character skills to use) with Aurum. That is the eventual road that EVE is heading down.

GOOD NEWS! Give it a few months and you will be able to buy the aforementioned unique mods or ships that are overpowered to hunt down and destroy that Nyx.

Cheers!


Hi im new in this game i have a question for you, i have under 7 mill skill points and bought a alot of PLEX with real cash, i sold them for isk in order to buy my fully Estamel fitted CNR but 5 Maelstroms instapopped me when undocking, why didnt i win?


Because you touch yourself at night.

Sizzle Anburn
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:25:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Painpill
Hi im new in this game i have a question for you, i have under 7 mill skill points and bought a alot of PLEX with real cash, i sold them for isk in order to buy my fully Estamel fitted CNR but 5 Maelstroms instapopped me when undocking, why didnt i win?


No worries. Seeing as how I'm quitting Eve just buy some more plex and turn it into isk. Then just send it to me and I'll send you back double AND tell you why you didn't win Eve.

Sasuke Rukh
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:28:00 - [12]
 

Why do people waste time with straw man arguments. "Wow you defeated an argument nobody made, I guess you're right about... something or other" herp derp derp

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:34:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Coruso Malefactor
Edited by: Coruso Malefactor on 29/06/2011 21:10:02
What you are describing is not P2W (pay 2 win). Quite simply you poorly used some ISK gained from selling a PLEX.

An example of P2W would be purchasing some unique mod or ship that is overpowered (requires little character skills to use) with Aurum. That is the eventual road that EVE is heading down.

GOOD NEWS! Give it a few months and you will be able to buy the aforementioned unique mods or ships that are overpowered to hunt down and destroy that Nyx.


So if I would have spent more RL money and bought a Nyx I woulda won?

Cheers!

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:39:00 - [14]
 

Cause a Nyx is OP right?

Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:44:00 - [15]
 

20 or so titans would drop on that nyx and doomsday it anyways

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:46:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 29/06/2011 21:47:10
Originally by: Cloora
I bought a carrier funded by a PLEX I bought with real life money. You see, I make decent money in real life but have little time to mission etc to make ISK because of work and my wife and three kids.

But I lost my carrier to a Nyx. So how come I didn't win?


Well, you lost the "p2w" war. He payed more then you, so...he won.

You may get a better job in RL to p2w more in EVE, would be a good strategy.

Coruso Malefactor
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:50:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Cloora
So if I would have spent more RL money and bought a Nyx I woulda won?

Cheers!


The solution is always to spend more RL money. The more the better. To win you have to buy at least 12 PLEX a month.

gdjghjhgjfh
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:51:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jasdemi
What you're missing is a monocle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxokaoeOiO0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Fahad AlAmir
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:51:00 - [19]
 

It's not pay to win since you're buying an ordinary ship anyone could get with enough ISK instead of a premium ship with 'gold' ammo.

You're also missing that with Plex, the player economy is still involved:
You sold the Plex to a player in return for ISK.
You bought a carrier that some industrialist had built with resources harvested by other players.

The problem is, with a ship from the NeX store, there's no player involvement:
You bought Plex and broke it into Aurum, with no other players involved.
You used that Aurum to buy a ship from the NeX that appears out of thin air.

Painpill
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:54:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Fahad AlAmir
It's not pay to win since you're buying an ordinary ship anyone could get with enough ISK instead of a premium ship with 'gold' ammo.

You're also missing that with Plex, the player economy is still involved:
You sold the Plex to a player in return for ISK.
You bought a carrier that some industrialist had built with resources harvested by other players.

The problem is, with a ship from the NeX store, there's no player involvement:
You bought Plex and broke it into Aurum, with no other players involved.
You used that Aurum to buy a ship from the NeX that appears out of thin air.


You need a monocle

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 22:05:00 - [21]
 

Please show me where I can purchase one of these OP gold edition ships from the NeX. All I see is the awesome Monocle and a nifty skirt

Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.06.29 22:14:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Fahad AlAmir
It's not pay to win since you're buying an ordinary ship anyone could get with enough ISK instead of a premium ship with 'gold' ammo.

You're also missing that with Plex, the player economy is still involved:
You sold the Plex to a player in return for ISK.
You bought a carrier that some industrialist had built with resources harvested by other players.

The problem is, with a ship from the NeX store, there's no player involvement:
You bought Plex and broke it into Aurum, with no other players involved.
You used that Aurum to buy a ship from the NeX that appears out of thin air.


isk > plex > aur

how is it not fair

Coruso Malefactor
Posted - 2011.06.29 22:17:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Cloora
Please show me where I can purchase one of these OP gold edition ships from the NeX. All I see is the awesome Monocle and a nifty skirt


Did you buy your 12 PLEX yet? Until you do the ships stay hidden from view.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.29 22:19:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Fahad AlAmir
buy a ship from the NeX that appears out of thin air

Actually, no.
You'll also need a base hull to trade in.
On top of just AUR.

Or maybe you'll only get a BPC.
Which you need to buy minerals for, to build.

Vanity ships won't be introduced until either one of those two features are in place.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 22:21:00 - [25]
 

Akita T is my buddy. Thanks Akita for spending all this time schooling everyone


 

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