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Rei Nakasone
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:50:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Rei Nakasone on 28/06/2011 16:50:36
I have an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor with what a stock cooler, lately it has been jumping up by about 10C but staying within recommended temperatures, the fan going from about 3300rpm to 4700rpm which is making a much louder noise than usual and is starting to worry me, I'm not of much use when it comes to the internals of a pc so any advice would be appreciated.

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:53:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Llambda on 28/06/2011 16:52:57
If you're staying within recommended temps, I wouldn't worry about it overly much, especially if there is a correlation between the heat increase and an increase in load (I'm sure there is). If the noise bothers you, you could try replacing your stock cooler with an aftermarket one. It also couldn't hurt to blow any dust out of your heat sink that may be impeding airflow.

How hot are we talking about here?

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:53:00 - [3]
 

I have the exact same CPU and my fan is quite audible. I disabled the CPU throttling, so it's loud all the time.

It's fine, don't worry about it.

Rei Nakasone
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:55:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Rei Nakasone on 28/06/2011 16:56:27
I'l be getting some gaming gear duster soon to clean out the heat sink and fan, hopefully that will help.

Is the fan running at 4700rpm+ going to cause any problems or make it burn out faster?

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:56:00 - [5]
 

maybe you can record the sound and the computer with a camera and put online the video
just to be sure

Jaroslav Unwanted
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:56:00 - [6]
 

Get Mugen 2 cooler. Stock cooler on AMD are joke.

Rei Nakasone
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:58:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Llambda


How hot are we talking about here?

About 48C

Gaeid Modiso
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:58:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Gaeid Modiso on 28/06/2011 17:04:51
Edited by: Gaeid Modiso on 28/06/2011 17:01:48
get a CPU monitoring program like Core Temp, it will allow you to monitor the CPU usage and heat. Incarna came with a very large increase in CPU utilization, especially while in the CQ environment, and this is going to cause a lot of problems for CPU's that don't have an adequate cooling solution (which is likely most of the EVE player base). And like was mentioned above, clean out your computer on a regular basis, that heat attracts dust, and dust can kill fans and cause even more heat buildup.

Don't use a vacuum cleaner to get the dust out of your computer, that's a good way to kill your machine due to static electricity. Get a canned Duster that blows out air and blow the dust out of your computer case.

Originally by: Rei Nakasone
Edited by: Rei Nakasone on 28/06/2011 16:56:27Is the fan running at 4700rpm+ going to cause any problems or make it burn out faster?

If you run EVE a lot, yes, it can reduce the expected lifespan of your fan. How much depends on the quality of your fan and how often you clean it.

Rei Nakasone
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:00:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Gaeid Modiso
get a CPU monitoring program like Core Temp, it will allow you to monitor the CPU usage and heat. Incarna came with a very large increase in CPU utilization, especially while in the CQ environment, and this is going to cause a lot of problems for CPU's that don't have an adequate cooling solution (which is likely most of the EVE player base).

I'm currently using piriform speccy.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Rei Nakasone
Edited by: Rei Nakasone on 28/06/2011 16:50:36
I have an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor with what a stock cooler, lately it has been jumping up by about 10C but staying within recommended temperatures, the fan going from about 3300rpm to 4700rpm which is making a much louder noise than usual and is starting to worry me, I'm not of much use when it comes to the internals of a pc so any advice would be appreciated.

I have an AMD Phenom II 1090T 6 core and the damn thing gets hot. It cracks the fan up and makes a lot of a noise. Case cooling seems okay but will improve it just to be sure.


Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:05:00 - [11]
 

Stock coolers are bad m'kay, unless you don't ever push your system, and EVE will definitely work your CPU a lot.

Cheapest fix would be to get a small thin screwdriver of any type, and an air compressor.

1) Disconnect PC, remove all covers and take outside.

2) Gently insert screwdriver into CPU fan just so it can not spin and blast cooler with compressor. Repeat for any other fans/coolers in your case. Do not let the compressed air spin your fans, ever. The idea here is to re-establish airflow.

A lot of the overheating in any PC can be fixed by keeping things clean and the air flowing. If not, Corsair makes fairly inexpensive ($60) closed-system liquid coolers for CPUs that are *silent* and thus even more awesome. These coolers do however collect smutz in their radiator, so you still have to keep things clean.




OverlordY
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:06:00 - [12]
 

i am running an AMD 955 too. With eve open my CPU sits at 50c. Perfectly Ok temp. I do have an after market cooler though,. the stock cooler that comes with that CPU is a JOKE.

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
If not, Corsair makes fairly inexpensive ($60) closed-system liquid coolers for CPUs that are *silent* and thus even more awesome.




I have one of these. I wouldn't call it "silent", but it is pretty damn quiet.

Ben Alman
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:15:00 - [14]
 

Just some general hints regarding Pc cooling.

What is most important, is airflow.
Air enters front/bottom (maybe with the help of a fan) and exits the back/top (again maybe a fan there).
That way hot air from the case is removed while cool one is provided.

So if you have such a setup (which you should) what you shouln't do is open the case.
This is actually contra productive as the airflow now has no real direction, and hot air mixes with cold etc...
What you may try is to search for a monitoring tool, and look whether your fans are operating on full capacity.
(Some mainboards throttle them to reduce noise, but a 80% chassis and CPU fan is much better than a 100% CPU fan with a 50% chassis fan noise wise)

If yo don't have rear/front fans, get some!^^
Most chassis should have place for at least one and even if the motherboard has no support for them there are adapters so you can plug them directly into your power supply.

Stay Cool! ;)

ps: some of you overclocking guys are welcome to correct/add something, put please keep it sensible for the average Pc guy :)

OverlordY
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:18:00 - [15]
 


Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:24:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: OverlordY
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140478

Buy, enjoy the cooling.


Different fans for same processors are also listed on that page. Please tell what makes them differ?

OverlordY
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:28:00 - [17]
 

Fan speed, surface area, metal they are made of. Copper is by far the best thermal conductor other than gold. The surface area of that is very high, and its a good rpm fan, and isnt too noisey.

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:34:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
Stock coolers are bad m'kay, unless you don't ever push your system, and EVE will definitely work your CPU a lot.

...


^this, most vendors assume people will just surf the web, if you start pressing the system in any way, high HD activity, high graphics, they usually overheat.

The computers that are running all graphics on max are the ones with upgraded cooling, or cooling designed out of the box for high performance.

A gaming computer is more than a hot video card and some memory.

Rei Nakasone
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:58:00 - [19]
 

Changed my intervul from imediate to default, seems to have fixed the heat problem, running about 8C cooler, lower fps :( but sacrifices must be made...

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:01:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 28/06/2011 19:01:39
Originally by: Rei Nakasone
Originally by: Llambda


How hot are we talking about here?

About 48C


Dont worry, thats absolutely fine.

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:07:00 - [21]
 

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE DONT USE STOCK COOLERS WHEN GAMING!!!

Unless it's like browser games...

Zakua Corbin
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:07:00 - [22]
 

ya clean the thing out, my two older boxes have that same cpu and they run eve fine. Matter of fact one of them runs eve and is also used in my small render network, is my Itunes player, video editor and storage unit, It often has all those apps open including Eve and it doesnt budge, Lots of RAM tho.

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:12:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury


2) Gently insert screwdriver into CPU fan just so it can not spin and blast cooler with compressor. Repeat for any other fans/coolers in your case. Do not let the compressed air spin your fans, ever. The idea here is to re-establish airflow.




its easier just disconnect the fan temporarily





 

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