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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.27 21:48:00 - [1]
 


Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.27 21:58:00 - [2]
 


I'm all for customizing ships for AUR.

Fair is fair.

A golden retriever or a pink drake would be really funny to see. ^^

Or imagine a white Dramiel ... O_O


AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:01:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 27/06/2011 22:02:40
tl;dr EVE has always been a game where in-game actions (time spent, decisions made, dedication) matter. With the introduction of aurum, the only thing that will matter is how much $ you are willing to spend on the game.

That's a clumsy summary, but I think that's the gist of it. Very good read regardless.

A sample (for the lazy):

"We were led to believe some time ago that with Incarna we might be able to run gay-bars, and open gay-shops, or night-gay-clubs, and socialise with and profit from other Eve players in a way we couldn't before.

We were encouraged to imagine that there would be new life in Eve; that women would play the game in significant numbers.

Some of us dared dream that Eve would become a popular game, raking in many more subs, paying many more lag-fixers and that our skill-points and game experience would suddenly make us cool with the new kids.

But that vision is crumbling, and crumbling faster than it would just under the weight of the terrible game-engine they have nearly come up with for Incarna.

It seems obvious now that the world of walking in stations will be one with its own currency, one where your ISK is not welcome, and one only the real-life rich will enjoy fully.

A whole new and largely separate economy could exist in stations; one that we real Eve-players have no advantage in, have no power over, and gain no benefit from.

In cold space our grind, our genius, our skill-points and our reputations benefit us and satisfy us. Meanwhile in the pubs and clubs, in the private parties are all the players who are not playing our Eve - the people spending on real life credit cards to buy virtual knitwear and pretend drinks - living in a world where all we have achieved, all we have become, means nothing.

We are going to be the people who, when eventually forced by CCP to cross a station concourse to insure a ship or renew a subscription, will be jostled and ridiculed by the avatars of tween-aged girls who, oh-my-god can't believe what we are wearing, and feel compelled to voice their theories that we are losers in real-life who can't even afford to play the game properly."

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:01:00 - [4]
 

I want a full chrome Proteus !!

28" lateral thrusters

Golden Neutrons blasters II

And one monocle.

Thx

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:05:00 - [5]
 

I would like to see corp purchases.
If a corp buys a logo that logo can be applied to any ship of a member in the corp. Heck maybe even make it take some game items.
Something like 200x precious metals or something.

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:11:00 - [6]
 

can someone illuminate me lpls...

what effect would 50 custom skinned ships in system have on lag, or even on my client ?

Namura Kautsuo
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:39:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Portmanteau
can someone illuminate me lpls...

what effect would 50 custom skinned ships in system have on lag, or even on my client ?


If done right, with color mapping and whatnot, very little at all. Seen plenty of games with hundreds of characters on screen all with custom colored armors and the game had the exact same lag when they were all dead and nude.

Further if the numbers get high enough the engine can easily scale back to a default skin that has no more lag than we have now.

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Namura Kautsuo
Originally by: Portmanteau
can someone illuminate me lpls...

what effect would 50 custom skinned ships in system have on lag, or even on my client ?


If done right, with color mapping and whatnot, very little at all. Seen plenty of games with hundreds of characters on screen all with custom colored armors and the game had the exact same lag when they were all dead and nude.

Further if the numbers get high enough the engine can easily scale back to a default skin that has no more lag than we have now.


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Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:51:00 - [9]
 

Bump for a good article.

Like I've been saying: it's not for us. CCP doesn't want its existing playerbase anymore, looks like - they've gone chasing after all the people they've turned off over the years - they've conveniently forgotten that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If they had made ship paintjobs (no spawning out of thin air, but trade-ins), ship logos, and had SANE prices for vanity Incarna items, they'd be raking in the dough right now.

Instead they're planning to go full-on double-dipping, as evidenced by "Greed is Good." Pay-to-play and pay-to-win.

I don't get it.

Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:06:00 - [10]
 

+1

Deleros Revo
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Linkage

Seriously that's a good example why websites with appealing design get moar visits. I clicked (x) in my firefox tab fast enough before suffering massive brain damage.

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:19:00 - [12]
 

Exactly what my greatest problem is with Incarna.

It's basically a vending-machine. And putting stuff into it will become more attractive for CCP then giving us the content we deserve for our subscription.

Micro-transactions are Pandora's box and CCP is not to be trusted with it.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:22:00 - [13]
 

This article convinced me that aurum itself is the problem. EVE needs more ISK sinks and CCP needs more of an incentive to fight against bots/macros. Abolish Aurum ASAP.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.06.28 14:31:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
This article convinced me that aurum itself is the problem. EVE needs more ISK sinks and CCP needs more of an incentive to fight against bots/macros. Abolish Aurum ASAP.


There can BE. Aurum can be bought for plex.

Also say some cosmetic Items may take 1000x of some PI resource to produce.

Pavel Bidermann
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:11:00 - [15]
 

There are ways of using 2 currencies that might have been interesting to the game. Rather complex trading I would think. The way CCP is doing this doesn't make any sense at all. It's too bad really. You might have made some killer deals is somebody got the conversion rate wrong.

The new software platform is some seriously poor software. I think 50 ships with just logos would kill a fight. If you can't run a stationary CQ then you certainly aren't running a bunch of customized ships in combat with all the turret and drone animations too. I would think they might have to be swithed off as well aas the CQ.

All speculation though.I think it was a poor decision to wait an additional week before saying anything. There are only a few reasons I can think of. The investors wanted to talk, Sony is a bigger player in this and they wanted to talk and/or CCP just wants to beg CSM to sign off on this so they can blame them later. There's no good reason to go about things this way. They could have easily called in a 3rd party firm to jaw at the players for a while if nothiong else. Like I said, all speculation and hot air, but it shold never get to the point where everybody's imagination is allowed to run rampant like this.

Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:29:00 - [16]
 

Minxy wondering about fabrics.

Just had to be pointed out. Twisted Evil

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:31:00 - [17]
 

"In Eve, the greatest material rewards come not just from ISK, but from training and planning and bitter experience. Even if you bought the character and bought the ISK for the ship - someone did the work, nothing comes from nothing.

For the vast majority of us, the things we have and the people we are in this community were hard won and are well loved.

While opening a whole parallel universe full of broaches and hair salons won't make our stuff go away - it will change its value. While winning war decs and masterminding null-sec wars might mean a lot in space - when you dock you can be eclipsed in stature by the guy who just spent a hundred real dollars on a new cod-piece.

Right now all the people who really don't give a **** what level command-ship skill we have and don't understand our 1 versus 12 kill-board links are outside Eve where they belong.

Soon they will be in here lagging-up our nodes and enthralling our Devs, luring away our corporation members, and rendering our subscriptions and our play-style less important.

I fear all of CCPs love will be lavished on our new little sibling; designing things for her doll's house and organising tea-parties. I think in CCP's eyes we aren't a cute as we used to be, and unless we start breaking things, I don't think we are going to get much attention anymore."

Gangotri XII
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:43:00 - [18]
 

Quote:
We are going to be the people who, when eventually forced by CCP to cross a station concourse to insure a ship or renew a subscription, will be jostled and ridiculed by the avatars of tween-aged girls who, oh-my-god can't believe what we are wearing, and feel compelled to voice their theories that we are losers in real-life who can't even afford to play the game properly. And yes we will camp for them - but they are never going to undock. Because oh-my-god like I accidentally undocked once and I swear like a massive spaceship tried to shoot me. He's probably a sex-offender in real life, I was going to petition it, but on the way to do it a saw this handbag.


LOL

Imryn Xaran
Caldari
Coherent Light Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:00:00 - [19]
 

I find it quite interesting that a whole separate station side world could develop, but I doubt that it would. I doubt they could ever implement enough content in stations to keep a player interested for long. Apart from Paris Hilton nobody else would enjoy playing a game to repeatedly buy $70 virtual handbags.

I really do like the idea that a pirate who can empty a system just by popping up in local could be completely ignored and disregarded by the station players.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:02:00 - [20]
 

Not to be a hater, but an ex-CSM that has long since rage quit brings relevance.. how?


 

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