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Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:07:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jude Lloyd on 27/06/2011 13:08:14
So I've been playing Eve for about 3 years now. I started out learning PVP in highsec wars and killing noobs in thier poorly fitted cruisers through various forms of trickery. One day I found out I wasn't allowed to leave lowsec, and I never have. Piracy is entertaining, exciting, and satisfying. Lowsec just feels like the place to be.

My question is this: When is PVP going to get it's next update? The incursions were great for PVE, and Incarna has some benefits for role players and planetary interaction.

Don't get me wrong. The new turrets are fun to watch, the walking around station adds a nice element, and giving the nebulas a facelift is always appreciated. I like the additions to the game, but I'm not getting any love as a PVPer. And as a pirate (which is a huge chunk of your paying customers), I'm seeing no attention from CCP.

Some things I'd like to see:
-First, give PVE/Miners really great reasons to enter lowsec. This will give other PVPers reasons as well. A little increased traffic in lowsec can only benefit gameplay.
-Possibly a new ship class who's role is to decloak ships. Basically a long range "smartbomb" useable once every couple minutes to decloak other ships. Maybe use the T2 Drake/Cane/Myrm/Harb slot.
-More PVP ships!

As a PVP pilot (and a pirate), I feel neglected by CCP. Enough PVE and carebear updates!

Siestre Vitale
Blue Republic
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:11:00 - [2]
 

Finally a new thread worth a read :) +1

Yeah totally agree with you, there does need to be some love thrown to the pvp'er and making low sec more attractive would definatly be a great starting point

like the ship ideas too

Jade Cargo
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:20:00 - [3]
 

I'll just sum up your poasty quickly:

-EVE, a game where PvP features in almost every aspect, is shortchanging PvP'ers.

-Please send more helpless mission runners and miners into my sights.

No need to thank me.

Bloody2k
Gallente
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:20:00 - [4]
 

Soon you can buy your own PVP patch by AUR.

Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:22:00 - [5]
 

I agree with most of your post, but for the love of god don't touch cloaks.

Savage Angel
Gallente
Gambler's Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:24:00 - [6]
 

There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them.

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:26:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Jade Cargo
I'll just sum up your poasty quickly:

-EVE, a game where PvP features in almost every aspect, is shortchanging PvP'ers.

-Please send more helpless mission runners and miners into my sights.

No need to thank me.


Thank you.

But I'm not saying there isn't enough PVP in Eve, I'm saying that if CCP is going to update... A little attention to PVP would be appreciated.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:27:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Miss Rabblt on 27/06/2011 13:27:24
Originally by: Jude Lloyd

-First, give PVE/Miners really great reasons to enter lowsec. This will give other PVPers reasons as well. A little increased traffic in lowsec can only benefit gameplay.


any ideas what it can be?

Originally by: Jude Lloyd
-Possibly a new ship class who's role is to decloak ships. Basically a long range "smartbomb" useable once every couple minutes to decloak other ships. Maybe use the T2 Drake/Cane/Myrm/Harb slot.


i would prefer some kind of TCU/POS module for this purpose.

Originally by: Jude Lloyd

-More PVP ships!


hm? isn't a ****load of ships in Eve already?

Originally by: Jude Lloyd

As a PVP pilot (and a pirate), I feel neglected by CCP. Enough PVE and carebear updates!


after all Eve is sandbox. So this is up to players what to do in game. Hovewer i would like if somebody will work to make my day better Very Happy

Neli I
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Savage Angel
There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them.

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


+1. Make it 750M and SP points of Concord.

Hekira Soikutsu
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:31:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Hekira Soikutsu on 27/06/2011 13:32:49
I really don't like my dollars going to making clothes and games I don't play.

Buff triage and nerf super torp exp radius and fix hybrids and fix lag and make local rep bonuses into equivalent resist bonuses and make cyclones nicer and make launcher turrets and dreads nice again and make lowsec better and **** the vampires.

Make eve fun in the way it used to be fun

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There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them. How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


Good idea. I'll pod myself all day long YARRRR!!

Podcat
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:34:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Savage Angel
There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them.

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


that isnt a bad idea at all except there as no way I can think of to keep it from being exploited. I think we all want a working bounty hunting system where bears can pay someone to enact revenge for them etc

Crispin McTarmac
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:39:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Savage Angel

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


This would have the same problem bounties have now, only much much worse. Bounties in the traditional sense cannot work on capsule pilots. Instead they ought to be balanced against property damage, or some other similar system.

Notice the bounties from the bounty office say "bounty paid for termination of capsule pilot x". If they followed this rule the bounty would never be paid, because the dead podmaster is always back in action 30 seconds later

Hekira Soikutsu
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:39:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Podcat
Originally by: Savage Angel
There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them.

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


that isnt a bad idea at all except there as no way I can think of to keep it from being exploited. I think we all want a working bounty hunting system where bears can pay someone to enact revenge for them etc


You could just put that 750 mil bounty on yourself Smile

Chris Fierce
Caldari
NoD Imperium
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:42:00 - [14]
 

We had a PVP expansion, it was called Empyrean Age.

It was all going well until CCP did what they do best. Pat themselves on the back for a job well done, then leave it to rot and go stale.

Spring Heeled Jim
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:47:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Crispin McTarmac
Originally by: Savage Angel

How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


This would have the same problem bounties have now, only much much worse. Bounties in the traditional sense cannot work on capsule pilots. Instead they ought to be balanced against property damage, or some other similar system.

Notice the bounties from the bounty office say "bounty paid for termination of capsule pilot x". If they followed this rule the bounty would never be paid, because the dead podmaster is always back in action 30 seconds later


I saw somewhere they were making changes to the bounty system. I've no idea what they are but lets hope it will them workable

daint666
Minmatar
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:56:00 - [16]
 

HIC bubbles or anchored bubbles stop nulli-t3's from warping. This overpowered T3 tengu **** is starting to irritate me.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:59:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Hekira Soikutsu

Quote:
There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them. How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


Good idea. I'll pod myself all day long YARRRR!!

^^ this

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:07:00 - [18]
 

As someone who really wants to do skirmish and small gang PvP warfare I think this part of the game has been severely neglected by CCP, the recent actions by them have only confirmed what I already suspected in that they are catering to a very specific group of people who just want big blob fleets and an easy ganking advantage over new players.

Savage Angel
Gallente
Gambler's Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:11:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt
Originally by: Hekira Soikutsu

Quote:
There is a great deal of PvP in this game. What you are asking for is fish for your barrel so that you can shoot them. How about a 500 million bounty on killing anyone with a sec status under -5.0? That would make your game more interesting, and the PvP would come to you.


Good idea. I'll pod myself all day long YARRRR!!

^^ this


Only pilots with a positive sec status can collect. Once you kill a pirate, you cannot collect again on that pilot for one month, but can collect on as many different pilots as you can find.

Does that make it better?

Can of Beans
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:17:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Can of Beans on 27/06/2011 14:19:32
Originally by: Jude Lloyd
..... As a PVP pilot (and a pirate), ....


Here's some news for you. Pirating isn't PvP.

Marcus Wilde
Gallente
HellHound's
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:17:00 - [21]
 

I totally agree with the OP, low-sec is definitely in need of some real incentive to get more people living/playing there.

Many people start playing the game and just get into a comfort zone in high-sec, they get stuck in the grind of mission or spend endless mind numbing hours eating roids. They think that low-sec is just a place that's full of bad men who just want to kill them, and they see it only as a place that they must inconveniently travel through from time to time.

Moving to low-sec might be daunting at first, and you are bound to lose a few ships here and there. But people very quickly learn the in's and out's, who's who & what to do and what not to do. And in no time at all they realize that they've been missing out on perhaps the most fun and exciting place in eve.

It's not all about pirates wanting more targets to pew at, although that would be awesome too, but I'd really like to see people free themselves from their self imposed high-sec detention, and actually have some really exhilarating fun for once.

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:23:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Can of Beans
Edited by: Can of Beans on 27/06/2011 14:19:32
Originally by: Jude Lloyd
..... As a PVP pilot (and a pirate), ....


Here's some news for you. Pirating isn't PvP.


Here's some news for you. I separated them in that sentence. Derp.

Kinta Huron
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:30:00 - [23]
 

Make pirate bounties worth 100 million ISK and you can kill anyone as many ****ing times as you want, and they will come.

Spengman
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:35:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Hekira Soikutsu
Edited by: Hekira Soikutsu on 27/06/2011 13:32:49
and **** the vampires.



This.

Vampires and their associated TV shows, movies and games, are for utter morons. Stop wasting our subscription money on entertaining Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans, FFS.


I'm with the OP on this, make a patch for the players who make this game what it is.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Savage Angel

Only pilots with a positive sec status can collect. Once you kill a pirate, you cannot collect again on that pilot for one month, but can collect on as many different pilots as you can find.

Does that make it better?

well. not sure.

However main problem is completely different: as carebear what will i get for putting bounty for someone's head?
Let's say he suicided me (killed my hulk). I put bounty. Someone killed him and took this money. What is my profit from this? I guess - nothing. I have lost ship. I have paid money for bounty. And after it i can be suicided by the same person again 1 hour after....

That's why i don't see any reasons to take a look to this system.

Zondrail
Formic Hive
Posted - 2011.06.27 14:46:00 - [26]
 

Hasn't the CSM been asking for fixes to low-sec/faction warfare/bounty hunting for years?

I would love to see this happen, but I honestly just don't think it will, which is why EVE is dying. "All the little things" doesn't include going back and fixing existing core game mechanics unfortunately.

If this whole mess-up causes CCP to step back and agree to revisit the world of flying spaceships, I will be ridiculously happy, but that's a thin hope.


 

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