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Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
Posted - 2011.06.27 09:03:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Rhivre on 27/06/2011 09:03:41
Originally by: Akita T
[sarcasm]

Confirming that I am, in no particular order, each or any of the following, without exception:
* a dev alt
* a Goon alt
* a BoB alt
* stealth plant of a PR company
* a blind CCP fanboi

[/sarcasm]


Also confirming I am all of the above. PS: You forgot to add noob.

Btw Akita, did you get your blinky RL wallet from CCP and/or multiple PR companies yet? I am wondering if the delay in blinky for me is due to a technical oversight. Rolling Eyes

Kendra Wilkinson
Posted - 2011.06.27 09:40:00 - [92]
 

can you just consider that some of us cant post officaly on forum due to corp internal restriction?

"THE RULES, sometimes they must be respected but maybe it's too hard"

Seako
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.27 09:44:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator
Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 02:51:19
Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 02:42:53
So all the sudden there is the magical showing of support for CCP.

Alts of the company?

PR firm hired like those that go on sites/blogs to post comments?

They really are players but somehow missed the last weeks firestorm?

Add more options as you see fit.

But they were no where to be seen then all the sudden a wave of people show up with arguments that are torn down rather easily but try to justify MTs. While avoiding the other major issues like the lies and Leaks and blatant smoke and mirrors PR garbage that was tossed at us.

Thoughts?

Edit:
It seems they are creating a wave of new threads to bump the old ones that show negative thoughts.

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: fatboy21007
btw most of these folks runing around defending MT is just ccp alts trying to change are minds.


It's just funny how obvious it is.

3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements.

CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.

(they are starting to learn the need to create avatars first)


LOL true.




^^ this

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:26:00 - [94]
 

Posing as a CCP-fanboi right now is just an effective way of trolling the majority of the community. Just ignore them.

xeitgeist
Amarr
Dirty Rotten Imposters
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:32:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Tobiaz
Posing as a CCP-fanboi right now is just an effective way of trolling the majority of the community. Just ignore them.


This. It's just a bunch of ****ed off trolls from Jita. CCP has been locking most of their threads anyway so it's not that big of a deal.

M14D
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:37:00 - [96]
 

The threads aren't so much pro-MT, they're anti-protester, because you guys have proven yourselves to be dumbasses.

Those topics have been here since day 1, I'm sure the majority of you ignored them to not be awoken from your happy-happy-joy-joy protesting spree.

God I wish you'd all get banned. Immediately.

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:39:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Gashblight
PR firm hired to forum spin.


Unlikely, some PR spud who'd never played Eve before would be very easy to spot. More likely it's just people getting tired of the whole thing, Zulu played the game very well by not answering the question properly and stalling for time with the CSM meeting.. t's that simple TBH

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:40:00 - [98]
 

Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 10:40:53
Originally by: M14D
The threads aren't so much pro-MT, they're anti-protester, because you guys have proven yourselves to be dumbasses.

Those topics have been here since day 1, I'm sure the majority of you ignored them to not be awoken from your happy-happy-joy-joy protesting spree.

God I wish you'd all get banned. Immediately.


No cause many of use were not thinking that CCP was Thousand dollar pants on head ******ed.

The leaks were actually a shock in how much disdain they have for the player base.

Originally by: Portmanteau
Originally by: Gashblight
PR firm hired to forum spin.


Unlikely, some PR spud who'd never played Eve before would be very easy to spot. More likely it's just people getting tired of the whole thing, Zulu played the game very well by not answering the question properly and stalling for time with the CSM meeting.. t's that simple TBH


Only idiots were fooled by that.

If CCP wants to stay the course so will the protesters.

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:40:00 - [99]
 

I liked the GMs more that were gagging people across all channels for 24hrs with no warning for daring to mention protests in official channels like Help. Pathetic how they tried and failed to stifle protest. A reasonable response is to warn at least once, and gag for only that channel. Not no warning and gagged everywhere.

As for the CCP alts - super lame and always super obvious with their pathetic and utterly lame arguments. Reminds me of religious nuts who never have any substance, but just switch to a new lame argument when it's apparent their current one has been ripped to shreds. They think they can wear you down by sheer lame argument numbers, rather than any actual reason.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:40:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Akita T
[sarcasm]

Confirming that I am, in no particular order, each or any of the following, without exception:
* a dev alt
* a Goon alt
* a BoB alt
* stealth plant of a PR company
* a blind CCP fanboi

[/sarcasm]


+ Troll
+ Lady Spank Alt
+ Carebear
+ Ganker

I am also all these things as well.

I confirm, the one thing I am NOT is

A wacked up conspiracy theorist.


Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:41:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator

So all the sudden there is the magical showing of rage against CCP.

People from other MMOs?

PR firm hired like those that go on sites/blogs to post comments?


Pretty sure....
Very Happy

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:50:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 27/06/2011 10:49:59
Originally by: Kendra Wilkinson
can you just consider that some of us cant post officaly on forum due to corp internal restriction?

"THE RULES, sometimes they must be respected but maybe it's too hard"


If CCP management actually cared about the playebase then they'd make it compulsory for you guys to log on at least an hour a week.

That is if you really are a CCP employee.

Obsidian Cobra
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:53:00 - [103]
 

I think this just might be the case.. SO sad CCP has it come to this.....

Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:54:00 - [104]
 

Imagine CCP is a plane and CCP staff, pilots, who are flying successfully for 8 years

Imagine we are the passengers, we all paid our tickets and are all free to leave the plane, with no hurt

But among the passengers a little minority is voicing their depleasure and fears so high, they seem to be a majority.

Moreover, they would talk to the pilots to influence the way they fly.

Imagine the mess on the plane, more protestors continue to threaten to go down for several days but are nevertheless still present...

Moreover, they constantly call the press to complain about how the plane flies and continues to cite the newspaper articles then.

So you can imagine that the crew and passengers remained calm are very bored, by these excited fanatics, who are sometimes close to the terrorism.

While passengers complain of the protesters increasingly strong and hope they will be thrown out of the plane.

I hope that this metaphor will open at least a few eyes


Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:57:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
"If mt goes live i won't be able to compete because i buy plex with isk because i am poor." (but somehow can afford internet and a computer)


Need Internet to get a job, so you make sure you can afford that.

Gareth Angel
Gallente
Eve Space Exploration Guild
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:57:00 - [106]
 

2004 player here.

To Mr. RedOpérateur and the rest of the Angry Mob:

If you don't like what you get, please stop uttering empty threats and

LEAVE

THE

FFING

GAME

Only way it will become clear to you that, no matter how many yells and cries we see in here, you're still only a MINORITY.

I say this keeping in mind that me and 7 of my 2004 friends are still playing, and enjoying, Eve (PvP, PvE, Industry - you name it). Not all is perfect with CCP, but what you're doing is exaggeration exaggerated.

Seriously, don't threaten to quit playing: GTFO! More than enough of us will stay, and more new players will come to the game once the doors to the stations open. Problem solved.

And to be a little more constructive to the thread, not just meaning to point and yell at you: how can you be so ****ed off over something you cannot be sure about will happen?

The kindest regards, and with the uttermost respect,

Gareth Angel.

(p.s. I don't need your stuff, I have plenty - donate it to a good cause pls).

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:57:00 - [107]
 

I had a MT support thread all weekend long also I just got my cheque from CCP, you mad *****es?

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537234&page=4

- Gob (new teeth)

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 10:58:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 10:59:44
Originally by: Lara Dantreb
Imagine CCP is a plane and CCP staff, pilots, who are flying successfully for 8 years

Imagine we are the passengers, we all paid our tickets and are all free to leave the plane, with no hurt

But among the passengers a little minority is voicing their depleasure and fears so high, they seem to be a majority.

Moreover, they would talk to the pilots to influence the way they fly.

Imagine the mess on the plane, more protestors continue to threaten to go down for several days but are nevertheless still present...

Moreover, they constantly call the press to complain about how the plane flies and continues to cite the newspaper articles then.

So you can imagine that the crew and passengers remained calm are very bored, by these excited fanatics, who are sometimes close to the terrorism.

While passengers complain of the protesters increasingly strong and hope they will be thrown out of the plane.

I hope that this metaphor will open at least a few eyes




This is a terrible analogy and you should feel bad for even using it.

Originally by: Gareth Angel
2004 player here.

To Mr. RedOpérateur and the rest of the Angry Mob:

If you don't like what you get, please stop uttering empty threats and

LEAVE

THE

FFING

GAME

Only way it will become clear to you that, no matter how many yells and cries we see in here, you're still only a MINORITY.

I say this keeping in mind that me and 7 of my 2004 friends are still playing, and enjoying, Eve (PvP, PvE, Industry - you name it). Not all is perfect with CCP, but what you're doing is exaggeration exaggerated.

Seriously, don't threaten to quit playing: GTFO! More than enough of us will stay, and more new players will come to the game once the doors to the stations open. Problem solved.

And to be a little more constructive to the thread, not just meaning to point and yell at you: how can you be so ****ed off over something you cannot be sure about will happen?

The kindest regards, and with the uttermost respect,

Gareth Angel.

(p.s. I don't need your stuff, I have plenty - donate it to a good cause pls).



I want to save the game. Barring that after the CSM you wont hear much from me. I never posted much till this incident anyhow. But Even after that I still cant leave cause CCP doesn't give refunds on time and i paid out in advance. I really want a refund right now to be honest.

Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:03:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator
I want to save the game. Barring that after the CSM you wont hear much from me. I never posted much till this incident anyhow. But Even after that I still cant leave cause CCP doesn't give refunds on time and i paid out in advance. I really want a refund right now to be honest.


You won't get it by posting in the forums, are you aware of this fact ?

Master Andrew
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:06:00 - [110]
 

of course CCP employees are posting on the forums using game alts and supporting the policies of the company - anyone wh doesnt believe this is very naive.
in the past ccp has admited to using alts to post on the forums and many of ccp's employees have game accounts and actually enjoy playing but then use these accounts to post in favor of ccp and its policies -

actually i believe that there has been a huge lack of support on the forums - however it would seem that a sudden surge in support seems to have coincided with ccp employees arriving at work this morning in iceland - coincidence - i think not.

why would the support have been so limited over the weekend when the highest number of players were logged in - but suddenly as monday arrives and the player base is largley back at work we see a rise in supportive posts - logically it doesnt make sense

belive what you want folks - but i can assure you that some (not all) of the positive posting for ccp has been done/orchestrated by ccp and its employees.

Confused

Gibsie
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:07:00 - [111]
 

Edited by: Gibsie on 27/06/2011 11:07:11
Quote:
3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements. CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.


Well, when your ship is drowning ...
First of all, get the children & wifes out ...
Then when the sharks are feeded, get the men to safety.
ugh

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:08:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Lara Dantreb
Originally by: RougeOperator
I want to save the game. Barring that after the CSM you wont hear much from me. I never posted much till this incident anyhow. But Even after that I still cant leave cause CCP doesn't give refunds on time and i paid out in advance. I really want a refund right now to be honest.


You won't get it by posting in the forums, are you aware of this fact ?



Thats why i canceled accounts.

You are really slowpokeing into this scandal arnt you.

Jerry Pepridge
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:09:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Reloadin
Quote:
Thoughts?


You don't know how to spell rogue?


can't find rep button atm..

ITT: OP is owned with authority from first reply.

Tosser Galore
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:14:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Skex Relbore
Edited by: Skex Relbore on 27/06/2011 05:07:20
Not dev alts or astroturfers, just naive people who believe any old nonsense like this idea that an internal newsletter is just kicking around ideas rather than just internal propaganda to push the company line, people who pretend that those pages that evenews24 left out changed anything in the context rather than cutting some irrelevant employee demographic info.

People who are too stupid to see that there is a difference between paying for someone's game time in exchange for isk that had to be generated through game mechanics and just magicking something out of nowhere potentially undermining the entire player run economy, people who can't see the difference in a cash shop in a free to play game and one that is subscription based.

People to dumb to know how the subscription system works and think that people who have already paid for a product shouldn't use that product .

That's the kind of people posting these nonsense threads.






And Michael Bolton III .


Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:18:00 - [115]
 

Can't speak for the others (see what I did there, no speaking for people without permission?), but I have been trying to stem the tide of stupid since it began .. stupid is unfortunately more powerful than reason/logic (ref: everywhere really) so it has been like having a conversation in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

If that makes me a fanboy/CCP alt then I'll wear it as a badge of honour thank you very much. I'll accept many things given the right circumstances but cannot abide stupidity under any.

SanchinaX
Caldari
We Hate Macro Miners
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:19:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator
Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 02:51:19
Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 02:42:53
So all the sudden there is the magical showing of support for CCP.

Alts of the company?

PR firm hired like those that go on sites/blogs to post comments?

They really are players but somehow missed the last weeks firestorm?

Add more options as you see fit.

But they were no where to be seen then all the sudden a wave of people show up with arguments that are torn down rather easily but try to justify MTs. While avoiding the other major issues like the lies and Leaks and blatant smoke and mirrors PR garbage that was tossed at us.

Thoughts?

Edit:
It seems they are creating a wave of new threads to bump the old ones that show negative thoughts.

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: fatboy21007
btw most of these folks runing around defending MT is just ccp alts trying to change are minds.


It's just funny how obvious it is.

3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements.

CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.

(they are starting to learn the need to create avatars first)


LOL true.





UNBELIEVABLE. This is no different than kids rioting in the streets, with the people finally fed up having their windows smashed, who then arm themselves and fight back.

Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:20:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator
...this scandal... .


I see no scandal, I see a game where we're supposed to role play immortal half-gods characters, and I see forums full of irrational fears and cries from the same characters.

The dichotomy between the two fascinates me, there is divine sized ridiculous in these forums.

Lucilla Giulia
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:21:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Nyssa Litari
Dear CCP,

It is not that you made the NeX items unreasonably pricy, although you have. It is not that we merely dislike change. Some of us dislike it, some of us welcome it.

It is that your business plan, from everything we can see, intends to take away the gameplay central to Eve; the player-driven economy. You're planning on making players that have spent time training for manufacturing, researching blueprints to wring out research efficiencies compete with a deus ex credit card.

Someone else pointed out that many player corporations have standings aid as a service for new recruits. You have players themselves advancing the social mechanics of your game, as part of the gameplay. Do you really think it's a good idea to disrupt that?

When we join, we join for the shiny. I joined because I might someday get to fly a Nyx. I'll admit that. But I've stayed, (and paid for new accounts like this one), because it is the players that drive the lore. The epic battles people talk about in chat while mining are the battles that they or their friends participated in, or caused. All of the politics is real. The bad guys are that other group of players that threw a wardec your way.

What we're worried about is that you'll start by taking the little things away, like offering standings aid as a player corp service, and move on to bigger things. There will be people that are willing to pay real money for the I-win-mobile. If you think that you can boil a few hundred thousand frogs to reach out to the few thousand teenagers with dad's credit card you'll lose us too. Then you will have lost what makes the game worth playing.

You'll lose the experienced FCs that know how to run a fleet and can train noobs to be just as valuable as the pilot in the that T2 cruiser. You'll lose the alliances that police their own territory making the alliance mechanics work. You'll lose the smart players who have poured so much time, thought, and effort into the game. The only kinds of players you gain are the ones with short attention spans. The ones that have no patience. The ones that play a "title" and move on.

And what happens when that's your player base? You have to be forever adding "content" like WoW does. Here's the new dance of the month. I've come to hate the term "content" because it's come to be akin to "just give them more icons". I'm not looking for just "content", I'm looking for play.

Most of your players today are not kids. I'm in my late thirties. I work in the software field. Like most of your players, I'm not stupid. I am not just a revenue stream. I say these things not in an attempt to gain your respect. I say these things in the hopes that they make you think about the kinds of players you want inhabiting your universe.

I won't cancel my account yet. You haven't upended the sandbox yet. Like your CEO suggested, I'll watch what you do more than what you say. I played Star Wars Galaxies, I had a character that made weapons. I had a plan in the game to become the premier gunsmith in my little neighborhood. That was what I was going to play toward. Sony changed the game, I dropped my subscription because it wasn't fun anymore. Please don't do that to us.

Regards,

Nyssa



Just so also in other posts CCP might read a very good post

Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:28:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Akita T
[sarcasm]

Confirming that I am, in no particular order, each or any of the following, without exception:
* a dev alt
* a Goon alt
* a BoB alt
* stealth plant of a PR company
* a blind CCP fanboi

[/sarcasm]


I know how you feel. I created this alt 8 years ago to be able to use it to defend CCP now without looking a n00b alt.

Yes, sir. Sure did.

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:31:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Can't speak for the others (see what I did there, no speaking for people without permission?), but I have been trying to stem the tide of stupid since it began .. stupid is unfortunately more powerful than reason/logic (ref: everywhere really) so it has been like having a conversation in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

If that makes me a fanboy/CCP alt then I'll wear it as a badge of honour thank you very much. I'll accept many things given the right circumstances but cannot abide stupidity under any.


Yes cause you have to be stupid to be on CCPs side in this.

They are calling for calm because its what they did in the past to put one over on when there was a scandal.

They no longer have a right to ask us to stay calm. If we become calm they will see that as a sing to ignore our demands and grievances.

Stop being stupid.


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