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shar Depran
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:19:00 - [1171]
 

Hmm So they have shipped out the CSM to Iceland for a meet have they, my guess is that someone with the financial sense to see what the loss of 4k in multiple player accounts in real terms has told these arrogant jerks to cool it and work the problem.

Yes players do pay for this game in hard cash and like anyone undertaking such a transaction they have a right to complain when the product they receive is not fit for purpose and as we have seen on so many levels this latest update is just that.

But in my opinion it is the total lack of additional game input in this update that has caused the initial uproar about it, in fact it detracts from game enjoyment in so many areas and should have always been designed with an ‘OFF’ switch that allowed players to continue to enjoy the game as they always have or should they wish it, go trudging around some bleak dungeon or corridor with a bland figure that seems to have a bad case of dandruff from the number of times it rubs the back of it’s head.

As for the ‘trinket’ store, no problem with that at all, as long as it does not sell game changing items ever let CCP have it, I for one have no use for it, would never consider using it and were I forced to do so three accounts would go dormant as of the next months payment, along with the others used by members of this household, about ten in total for two players, leave you to do the math CCP.

So what do I want too see, simple really.

1, and ‘Off’ switch for this silly WiS feature.

2. No game changing items in your trinket store.

3. CCP to sort the myriad bugs already existent in the game.

TTFN

Nath Blazek
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:28:00 - [1172]
 

Originally by: Brainless Bimbo
gets looks at books, ah, ok, i see the issue now, you need about 9 million dollars by October and another 18m to get dust and wod complete.

CCP is breaking the game to survive basically




AKA Cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:38:00 - [1173]
 

Originally by: Aloh
The fact that quad core Phenom boxes are going to 40% CPU utilization running ONE client.


Wait. What? I haven't noticed this on my Phenom II 965. Will be checking my CPU and GPU readbacks when I get off work in 12 hours. So this post reserved.

Ein Spiegel
Minmatar
Fly-by-Night Industries LLC PTY LTD
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:43:00 - [1174]
 

To the members of the CSM, on your invitation to an emergency meeting...

1) Ensure that your return flight has been booked, in advance, and is non-refundable. (This close to travel, the non-refundable part is probably a given.)
2) Hang on to your passports. Just, y'know. In case.
3) Keep an eye on the north of the country... if the universe is conspiring against Eve, Grimsvoten or Eyafjallajökull could make your flight itinerary all kinds of fun.

Just kidding. Still, keep your eyes open, keep your spines strong, and make sure you all get back. (Except, maybe, for themittani. If someone has to be sacrificed, Mittens works for me.)

Let me also add my call for near instantaneous minutes of substance posted, if not at the end of the day, then by 2 days after the summit ends. Enjoy the trip, and yeah... if CCP offers hookers, booze, and fermented shark products... go ahead, but not until after the meeting.

o7

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:44:00 - [1175]
 

Originally by: Jannx
Is the meeting likely to be minuted? And will we be able so see the minutes if it is?

The sessions will be recorded as usual and minutes will be prepared. It is my intention to get them out in record time.

Originally by: Desert Ice78
Please abstain from alcohol and/ or drugs and/ or hookers for the duration of your stay.

I do not drink or do drugs, but no hookers? You heartless bastard! Crying or Very sad

Originally by: Pierced Brosmen
From reading your blogs, as long as CCP don't manage to bribe Mittens with bacon, I think you'll do fine Wink

I regret to report that I am now on a low-carb diet, so bacon is looking mighty good to me at this point.

Ef Ahak
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:01:00 - [1176]
 

Edited by: Ef Ahak on 28/06/2011 00:04:05
The financial situation is indeed a big problem here... Usually, when 'a game' gets bashed by the player base and people complain on "they have all their staff working on [insert equivalent to dust] and don't give a ****", I personally take that with a grain of salt.

EVE and the current situation, however, is the first game with a 'loud clientele' I've seen where I actually have to agree. Seriously - some of the new content (graphical) seems like a high-school project. With the 'patch' where the 2D part of the UI was translated into 3D, someone did a not-top-notch job. Case temp literally doubled.

If you look closely on the UI icons (the shortcut ones, F1 et al), you will actually see edges of the square graphical object (I am talking outside the circle shape), as well as sometimes the ortoghonal vector to the "rate of fire"/activity circling on the same icons.

Do I suffer from this? No, ofc not. It doesn't really change the gameplay. It does - however - sta(t/k)e a painful confirmation of lack of ordinary staff developing the content. It borders sloppy - no more, no less. And for the first time in a large community game, I take the "the staff is busy working on Dust and the janitor was given a 'Beginner's guide to HLSL' to complete Incarna content"-cries as more true than usual.

I hope a dedicated team continue to work on EVE development. The new graphic issues - both the visible ones and the coding-efficiency ones do not reflect what one would expect from the EVE team.

On the MT issue - I am against MTs generally, but don't care as long as it is kept to vanity items. I really hope CCP stick to the words in this thread, that the store will stay at vanity items. If game-mechanic altering items and effects from AUR goes live, the game will take a (last?) step forward - leaving that delicate edge it is currently balancing at behind.

Darth Helmat
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:23:00 - [1177]
 

Originally by: Brainless Bimbo
gets looks at books, ah, ok, i see the issue now, you need about 9 million dollars by October and another 18m to get dust and wod complete.

CCP is breaking the game to survive basically




They have, as they say, bet the company on dust... and eve with it. Dust is going to enter a packed market populated by far more capable companies than CCP :-(


Ethnocentricity
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:39:00 - [1178]
 

This sounds more to me like bribery and candy coating something. You are going to give an all expense paid trip to "political" leaders and then try to negotiate MT. You then will try to point the finger at CSM when you introduce non-vanity items to the NEX.

Nerodon
Gallente
Incapsulated Reality
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:40:00 - [1179]
 

Edited by: Nerodon on 28/06/2011 00:49:40
In many ways, I welcome Aurum and vanity items as it offers a large market for smart traders to exploit.
Think about trading between the currencies and evaluating trends! So much profit to be made by the inner workings of this new economy!

Of course, a few suggestions would be to make these new items at a lower price as they aren't going to be popular enough at their current value. Also, keep in mind fellas that the increased demand for PLEX might actually make them EVEN MORE expensive. How many people are actually going to buy plexes en masse just for getting Aurum? What will the ratio between Isk->Plex and $$$->Plex to make Aurum. If not enough Plexes are purchased to match the sudden demand, then expect the price to rise intensly.

So, make items less expensive in order for more players to indulge in buying a plex knowing that he can get more for his money!

P.S: There is no NEED for game affecting items in the store. People have been waiting for so long to get to customize their characters, new players will most likely indulge as well! I'm sure most will welcome the NeX if the library was varied, interesting and more affordable. Affordability will extend the reach of this new market to a broader audience.

But definitely, Cheaper items in the store will attract more people to buy a PLEX to get muliple items at once from the NeX... The current prices are more intimidating, Its not a wild guess to assume that people that bought those Monocles probably just emptied their ISK wallets on them.

Lower price barriers will attract more people, be more optimized to player demand and generate more revenue from PLEX.

I think I've repeated myself quite a few times there...

Imnotded
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:53:00 - [1180]
 

Watch what we do . . . MAKE HEADLINES

RENARD FOX
Posted - 2011.06.28 01:24:00 - [1181]
 

Am I missing something? What is the difference between this and plex?

I can use real money to buy plex. I sell plex in game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

I can use real money to buy plex. I can swap plex for aurum. I use aurum to buy vanity stuff in-game. I sell vanity stuff in-game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

Is there a difference that I have missed? Absent buying SPs what is the problem with this arrangement? Stupid people rolling around with $1000 monocles? Good luck to them.

Deliceous
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2011.06.28 01:34:00 - [1182]
 

Is eve like IBM or more Like Macintosh?

CCP can't give the community too much power otherwise it will become a stale and old.

Apple way - Shoot, see what happened,analyse, Shoot again.


Jacoba Stalker
Posted - 2011.06.28 01:39:00 - [1183]
 

You speak of contacting CSM for any questions or suggestions. How do we contact CSM?

Mi Sing
Caldari
Crusaders Transcendancy
Posted - 2011.06.28 01:40:00 - [1184]
 

OK. Even though I think there is still a chance of CCP coming around, the more I think on this, the more I can see ways CCP will wiggle around it. Prediction time. The CSM will go to Iceland, haggle with CCP, and get them to "see the light" on non-vanity AUR items. But it will be left vague, with lots of wiggle room.

Then we will go a year, give or take, with only vanity items in the NEX, and we will think we have won. Right after the release of DUST, all of a sudden, you will be able to get pirate faction tower BPCs in the NEX. (When is the last time anyone got one in a drop?) It will be explained away as not giving an in game advantage, because its already in the game. And yes, there will be B****ing and moaning from the players, maybe a little bit of rage. Most of the players will just be excited about having the BPCs back. Then, when that calms down, a few more items will be reintroduced. And everyone will start going, "Hey, NEX isn't too bad." At that point is where the Non-vanity, for an in game advantage, comes in.

CCP only wants us to stay around long enough for DUST to launch. DUST and Sparkles(WoD) are their only focus because they believe those games will make more money. As far as I know, P2W and persistant universe really don't go together.

CSM, please do not let CCP have wiggle room in their statements. And make sure that it is not only no non-vanity for in game advantage, but no non-vanity period. If it has stats for the game it does not belong in the NEX.

Just a little food for thought guys.

Dalton Vanadis
Posted - 2011.06.28 02:29:00 - [1185]
 

Originally by: Jacoba Stalker
You speak of contacting CSM for any questions or suggestions. How do we contact CSM?


In their section of the forums. Jita park speakers corner or some such like that. Though you could probably also just mail them or convo them or join one of their public chat channels.

Dalton Vanadis
Posted - 2011.06.28 02:39:00 - [1186]
 

Originally by: RENARD FOX
Am I missing something? What is the difference between this and plex?

I can use real money to buy plex. I sell plex in game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

I can use real money to buy plex. I can swap plex for aurum. I use aurum to buy vanity stuff in-game. I sell vanity stuff in-game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

Is there a difference that I have missed? Absent buying SPs what is the problem with this arrangement? Stupid people rolling around with $1000 monocles? Good luck to them.


No, it's the potential to only be able to buy certain gameplay affecting items through cash (or direct aurum transaction), such as only being able to purchase an old-style doomsday if you drop a 1000 dollars for it in the aurum market (it shouldn't be separated out from the normal ISK market and should be readily accessible/buildable by the players like every other current game-play affecting item). If that makes sense.

Dimitryy
Gallente
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.06.28 02:45:00 - [1187]
 

What does that mean "no gold ammo", does that mean you dont plan to sell Ammo as a Microtrans, or does that mean you dont plan to sell charges in general as microtrans, or that you wont sell *depletable* items as microtrans, or that you wont sell P2W items as microtrans, or even just that you wont sell any item specifically called "Gold Ammo".

How hard is it to just make a clear answer?


Celfea Dur
The Flying Tigers
Posted - 2011.06.28 03:17:00 - [1188]
 

Dear CCP---
As usual, the silent majority supports your efforts in the ongoing development and enrichment of the EVE Universe.

I would like to remind you that the many thousands of players who do not spew vulgar vocalizations on your forums at the slightest utterance of change make up the bulk of your paying subscribers. I for one am thrilled that you are able to continue this franchise and maintain a loyal playerbase through ongoing development and new and better features. Although it is true and understandable that not all of these new features touch on aspects of gameplay which satisfy all of your customers, you have proven time and again that you are able to bring new players into the fold and even reach out to retired players and bring them back in with every new expansion.

Bravo.

As for microtransactions within EVE, my personal preference is for them to remain primarily vanity items in general. For example, character clothing, ship paint schemes, corporation ship branding, alliance ship branding, etc. I would expand on that by offering extremely high-value items such as unique ship hull designs and blueprints. Not game-changers, mind you....but say something along the lines of an anniversary edition battleship -- no drastic game-altering specifications, just a truly unique and cool design. (ie: such as the ship design winners)

The ultimate concern is that seasoned players do not have their extensive game experience cheapened by altering the game in such a way as to allow a new player, or group of players, the ability to buy their way into the upper echelon of the game.

As it stands now, a player with a credit card can legally purchase a character with a specific skill set and purchase enough PLEX to outfit any ship in the game. That is the extent of real money transfers that the EVE playerbase is willing to accept, and has also served CCP well for many years.

Please keep the in-game microtransactions on the small scale side to appeal to the entire EVE community, and I believe you will achieve greater success and higher player satisfaction.

Thank you.
---Celf

Xandralkus
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 03:42:00 - [1189]
 

CCP didn't plan microtransactions, so the reassurance that there are no plans to implement "gold ammo" is not reassuring in the slightest. For all we know, the next expansion of Eve might release Empress Jamyl's superweapon and BPO's for Jove battleships on the Noble's Exchange.

I speak of course of the worst-case scenario...but everyone who has flown in lowsec or nullsec for more than nine seconds knows, plan on the worst-case scenario, because it can (and sometimes does) happen.

RENARD FOX
Posted - 2011.06.28 03:52:00 - [1190]
 

Originally by: Dalton Vanadis
Originally by: RENARD FOX
Am I missing something? What is the difference between this and plex?

I can use real money to buy plex. I sell plex in game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

I can use real money to buy plex. I can swap plex for aurum. I use aurum to buy vanity stuff in-game. I sell vanity stuff in-game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

Is there a difference that I have missed? Absent buying SPs what is the problem with this arrangement? Stupid people rolling around with $1000 monocles? Good luck to them.


No, it's the potential to only be able to buy certain gameplay affecting items through cash (or direct aurum transaction), such as only being able to purchase an old-style doomsday if you drop a 1000 dollars for it in the aurum market (it shouldn't be separated out from the normal ISK market and should be readily accessible/buildable by the players like every other current game-play affecting item). If that makes sense.


I don't see the difference TBH. Someone drops $1000 on an old-style doomsday - presumably they can sell it in-game. It is just another item that the richest characters/alliances can afford to buy. How is it any different to some of the unique cruisers/bs given as prizes as part of ATs? Or a Titan?

My only issue with NEX would be the possibility that it could be used to purchase non-transferable character enhancements. SPs, attributes etc.

JaseNZ
Gallente
The Suicide Kings
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.28 04:02:00 - [1191]
 

Edited by: JaseNZ on 28/06/2011 04:06:57
Thanks for the blog, Zulu and Fallout, it is much appreciated.

I hope all goes well for both sides at the meeting.

Jase.

[edit for typo correction]

Ranita Drell
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2011.06.28 04:30:00 - [1192]
 

Edited by: Ranita Drell on 28/06/2011 04:54:06
Originally by: RENARD FOX
I don't see the difference TBH. Someone drops $1000 on an old-style doomsday - presumably they can sell it in-game. It is just another item that the richest characters/alliances can afford to buy. How is it any different to some of the unique cruisers/bs given as prizes as part of ATs? Or a Titan?

My only issue with NEX would be the possibility that it could be used to purchase non-transferable character enhancements. SPs, attributes etc.

When you sell PLEX for ISK, the ISK you receive entered the game through normal game mechanics, by the efforts of a player (through ratting, mission running, whatever). The items you buy with the ISK were produced through normal game mechanics and the efforts of a player (through research, invention, mining/reprocessing, ratting, complex-running, manufacturing, etc.) and involved transactions in the player-driven marketplace.

The ability to spawn items directly into the game through NEX presents a situation that differs from the status quo that we have with PLEX. Bypassing the usual game mechanics and market will distort the economy, corrupting one of the unique, defining elements of EVE. The difference may seem subtle and abstract, but I believe it's a very important one.

Besides selling virtual goods with gameplay effects, I worry that CCP may start selling "convenience features" like the ability to buy faction standings (which is already a service you can buy from players), extra saved ship fittings and other perks. The problem I have with that, besides the fact that it'd offer indirect (and not necessarily transferable) advantages to the player is that it actually gives the developer a disincentive to make the game more convenient and fun for all paying subscribers, since doing so would remove an opportunity to squeeze additional dollars out of those willing to pay extra. The more cynical among us might fear that the motives of the developer could conceivably become so perverted by these forms of MTs that they actually start looking for ways to make the game less convenient to create new MT revenue sources.

Eye Browz
Posted - 2011.06.28 04:52:00 - [1193]
 

If the viewpoints in Fearless aren't CCP policy and aren't even necessarily those of the individuals writing them, why don't you take it as a sign that we don't agree with those viewpoints and HTFU?

I mean, it's not like anybody would actually think MT would be a good idea for EVE Onl... o fudge.

Elina Tan
Posted - 2011.06.28 04:55:00 - [1194]
 

Originally by: Celfea Dur
The ultimate concern is that seasoned players do not have their extensive game experience cheapened by altering the game in such a way as to allow a new player, or group of players, the ability to buy their way into the upper echelon of the game.

This would be a good moment to quote Malcanis' Law again:

Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.

In other words, pay-to-win items, contrary to what you suggest, will not favor new players, but the old vets, with trillions of disposable isk to their name.

Jannx
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.28 05:34:00 - [1195]
 

Edited by: Jannx on 28/06/2011 05:50:47
Originally by: Celfea Dur
Dear CCP---
As usual, the silent majority supports your efforts in the ongoing development and enrichment of the EVE Universe.

Utter rubbish. To paraphrase from another board (but it makes my point clearly)...

I've heard people mention "the silent majority" before, when trying to dismiss all the negative feedback from the player community. They are held up as a set of loyal CCP customers who accept everything that CCP does. They are supposed to understand that CCP isn't ripping them off and that the changes are valid. They like to point out that it's the vocal minority on the web that likes to moan and shout.

Is this really the case? Are "the silent majority" really a valid group? Could it be that they're not vocal for other reasons, like time and effort? Apathy? Could they be silent because they don't see the point in saying anything? Do they participate in the forums at all?

Are they silent, but actually do make a protest by just simply not playing? Are they, in fact, voicing their frustration on the in-game channels or shooting things in Jita?

I know from time to time I've started to moan on a forum, but stopped halfway through as I'm not able to articulate my response in the way I want. So I end up not posting, but I'm still annoyed.

Just because they are silent doesn't mean they're not pi$$ed off.


Mechatronicus Anihilus
Posted - 2011.06.28 06:13:00 - [1196]
 

Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 28/06/2011 06:16:05
Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 28/06/2011 06:14:54
Originally by: Elina Tan

In other words, pay-to-win items, contrary to what you suggest, will not favor new players, but the old vets, with trillions of disposable isk to their name.


In more ways than one. Think about it. Eve isn't the only competitive, high stakes pvp MMO out there. In any competitive environment, the cream rises to the top. Eve, the way it is now, it takes a long time to become a "top" pvper.

Hypothetically, people who use aurum to buy superweapons and sp and try to run with the big dogs will mostly get crushed. And the vets will wind up with the nice stuff, and use profits and the new system to polish their high sp toons. "Hey, Gallante Carrier V looks really nice for my sc alt-I'll just buy that with my n00b ganking profits..."

N00b who just got ganked is angry because he paid to win and lost in seconds. N00b reverses charges on his credit card. CCP just got owned by its potential new revenue stream.

The ramifications and slippery slope from that point on will provide a huge motivation for CCP to truly destroy the game. CCP would have to completely destroy the mechanics in order to give inexperienced players with bought gear and skills equality with veterans. The way the game plays now, even if the hypothetical aurum ships are twice as good as any faction or t2 ship, it would not offer enough of an advantage vs. players who know what they are doing. The destruction of game mechanics would have to be so complete that any real skill and knowledge of game mechanics offers no advantage. Eve would just become some movie you watch and the outcome is determined by who paid the most cash.


Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2011.06.28 08:02:00 - [1197]
 

Originally by: RENARD FOX
Am I missing something? What is the difference between this and plex?

I can use real money to buy plex. I sell plex in game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

I can use real money to buy plex. I can swap plex for aurum. I use aurum to buy vanity stuff in-game. I sell vanity stuff in-game. I buy other more useful stuff in-game.

Is there a difference that I have missed? Absent buying SPs what is the problem with this arrangement? Stupid people rolling around with $1000 monocles? Good luck to them.

The difference is this:

If you buy a PLEX, CCP has to provide gametime at some point. This means that you or the player buying the PLEX from you has a months access to the game.

If you buy AURUM, you STILL have to either pay subscription or buy a PLEX too. In other words, you have to pay for both.

Additionally, buying items for real money means that it's harder for you to STOP playing EVE as you have all these items you paid real money for.

Selling AURUM is an ADDITIONAL revenue stream, while selling PLEX will not bring in much extra since most players will play anyway.

Jannx
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.28 08:31:00 - [1198]
 

Edited by: Jannx on 28/06/2011 11:10:28
Right, so as it stands now I can happily get out my credit card and go and buy PLEX for $35. I can then sell that PLEX on-line for ISK. I use that ISK to get a shiny new battleship with all the trimmings. I take it out, feeling smug, and because I haven't skilled up properly I get ganked, someone else gets the salvage which gets recycled (in various ways) back into the economy, and I am a poorer, but wiser, person.

The battleships BPO was bought with ISK, someone took the time and effort to mine the minerals and run the missions and do the research and manufacturing necessary to build the thing. Any number of people, down the line, have benefited because that battleship (plus trimmings) has been created as part of the economy, using the tools that the Eve universe allows us to use.

The only person to lose out is me, because I am an idiot. I might even leave the game and go and play WoT because I spent my hard earned cash, on top of the subscription, on something I only had for half an hour. It's not the games fault, but I'm only human and entitled to sulk.

Now, move on to NEX. I happily get my credit card out and buy enough PLEX for a shiny new, exclusive, battleship. I also buy some exclusive ammo, guns, paint job and other stuff. I've just spent $200 (not unreasonable, if you take into account how much a monacle costs). This is converted to AURUM and I get my stuff.

Out of thin air.

From nothing.

No one has mined, manufactured, researched or salvaged anything for this ship. It just appeared. By magic. There are no BPO's for this thing. It's made by the "universe". Economy is bypassed and, therefore, suffers. Game cohesion is eroded. Many people are indirectly affected by this because there is little point in crafting anything.

So, I take it out, feeling smug, and pewpew a few (poorer) players because I bought a ship with an edge that they haven't got. And then, because I haven't skilled up properly, and also because people hate me for buying myself into the game because I can and they can't, I get ganked.

What happens next? I paid for that ship (and all it's exclusive trimmings). Where is my $200? Can someone take the salvage, potentially taking some of the trimmings and ammo (all exclusive, remember) that I, only half an hour before, paid for on my credit card? Presumably, yes. The alternative is that my shiny, new, exclusive battleship (plus trimmings) has reappeared in my hanger so I can go out and be smug all over again... like magic.

If it doesn't, then I'm going to be more than a little annoyed. That shiny, exclusive battleship was mine. I paid for it, on top of my monthly subscription. Now someone has blown it up and I can't use it any more. Bummer! I hate this game! I'm leaving to play WoT...

So, what's the outcome of these little scenarios?

Both have (potentially) lost the idiot player... so what? The thing is, even if he stays, he's more likely to buy another PLEX, sell it and buy a normal battleship, than get stung buying exclusive stuff that he's probably going to lose (assuming it doesn't magically reappear again).

Both have been funded by PLEX, although the ISK in the NEX version has been lost to the economy as it's been spent on AURUM. Loads of people, probably entirely unrelated in every way to each other, miss out on ISK revenue. The economy suffers and, if everyone just buys ships, there IS no economy.

The NEX ship has taken time and effort away from the "poorer" players who got blasted by it because its specs are better than the average. That is a problem, because it'll pi$$ off a lot of people, and AURUM ships will become automatic targets. Plus, people want to play in an "even" universe... by which I mean that, one day, if I skill up, earn my ISK and do the mission running then I, too, will own a nice, shiny, battleship and blow noobs to smithereens.

NEX for non-vanity items will fail. It'll destroy the economy.

Ramble over.

Terh Rumnatarn
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 09:05:00 - [1199]
 

Not addressing a problem is another way of confirming it. There were decisions to introduce P2W, just admit it and we can go pass it.

I will not repeat what other ppl are saying in the forums, but CCP be very afraid of the moment when the community will just stop reacting at the flaws in your game. Past that moment is no return.

Will be leaving this here...
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44136/George_Carlin___You_Are_All_Diseased_Part_5/
start watching from 8:00 a nice life lesson :D

Callidus Dux
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 09:26:00 - [1200]
 

Edited by: Callidus Dux on 29/06/2011 07:13:42
I must repeat following:

NO faction standing or skillpoints for Cash; ISK or Aurum.

-> NO game mechanics purchasable / buyable

Please give us the old hangar back and make CQ optional.

I will use it. I assure, but I do not need it always.

Furthermore I do not need the Nex Store or the Aurum. WHY? Make it purchasable via existing market.
I will not support any games, which have a monthly subscription fee and beyond that such a system with real money!Evil or Very Mad For that business there are a lot of other FREE TO PLAY games on the market. .. Which I also will NOT play.

Somethink to think about:
AURUM = the Latin word for Gold = WoW Gold? Laughing


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