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Mr Mickey
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:14:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Acac Sunflyier
Frankly, from the nature of the leaked email, I believe that Zulu was told to write that dev blog and may very well be opposed to the nature of the changes to eve



Opposed or not opposed, there is absolutly no right for the level of arrogance shown in the last post.

AND, you always have a choice. post / dont post, sound like a muppet, dont sound like a muppet.

nota spyalt
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:14:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Acac Sunflyier
Frankly, from the nature of the leaked email, I believe that Zulu was told to write that dev blog and may very well be opposed to the nature of the changes to eve




if he was told to write that then he can be forgiven, also ofc whoever told him to needs to resign

VeloxMors
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:14:00 - [33]
 

+1.

Screw everything about that response. I've taken pictures of my gonads that would have produced a more pacifying effect.

Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:15:00 - [34]
 

listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players.
It made things really clear on whats going on here.

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1074-dissecting-ccp-a-funkybacon-talk-special



I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all.
It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...

Acac Sunflyier
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:16:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Mr Mickey
Originally by: Acac Sunflyier
Frankly, from the nature of the leaked email, I believe that Zulu was told to write that dev blog and may very well be opposed to the nature of the changes to eve



Opposed or not opposed, there is absolutly no right for the level of arrogance shown in the last post.

AND, you always have a choice. post / dont post, sound like a muppet, dont sound like a muppet.


The blog was probably written for him and his name was just put on it. And it isn't really a chose of blog or no job. Especially when the economy is so messed up in Iceland.

Trogglodite
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:17:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Jaxom Asgard
Glad to see you've all made up you minds before the article has even been posted.....

+1 - Getting bored of this emo - my son is a teenager and I get more reason from him than from these forums. The mob mentality - sheep following others with chinese whispers fueling people's beliefs of what's actually happened is quite ridiculous. Many of the threads are genuinely informed and make sense but most..? Most of them are offense taken for the sake of offense.

I honestly believe CCP screwed the pooch with their communication but seriously, if folks want to quit then quit already. Nothing has actually changed - when it does I'll make my mind up then. In the meantime, let them react already without screaming disgust because they didn't reply within 2 days.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:17:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Hyperforce99
listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players.
It made things really clear on whats going on here.

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1074-dissecting-ccp-a-funkybacon-talk-special



I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all.
It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...


This ^^

Mr Mickey
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:18:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Hyperforce99
listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players.
It made things really clear on whats going on here.

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1074-dissecting-ccp-a-funkybacon-talk-special



I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all.
It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...


If i told you to jump off the bridge, would you do it?

This could mean, either, "no i will not post" or "yes i will post" but when posting dont do it with arrogance wich again is taking that leap off the bridge... if that makes sense?

Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:19:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Janus Talmash on 26/06/2011 15:21:04
Originally by: Hyperforce99
listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players.
It made things really clear on whats going on here.

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1074-dissecting-ccp-a-funkybacon-talk-special



I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all.
It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...


Can't stress this enough, if you're going to rage at least put in the effort to base it on stuff we know, not (like the OP) be a headless chicken and just shout nonsense.


Originally by: Mr Mickey
If i told you to jump off the bridge, would you do it?


"do as I say or find another job... in Iceland... in the game industry... in this economy", You bet your ass I'd jump.

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:20:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Shintai on 26/06/2011 15:21:13
Originally by: Acac Sunflyier
The blog was probably written for him and his name was just put on it. And it isn't really a chose of blog or no job. Especially when the economy is so messed up in Iceland.


Economy is far from that bad there. Its not Spain or USA.

Its 8.3% in iceland. Relatively normal rate these days.

Mr Mickey
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:24:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Janus Talmash
Edited by: Janus Talmash on 26/06/2011 15:21:04
Originally by: Hyperforce99
listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players.
It made things really clear on whats going on here.

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1074-dissecting-ccp-a-funkybacon-talk-special



I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all.
It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...


Can't stress this enough, if you're going to rage at least put in the effort to base it on stuff we know, not (like the OP) be a headless chicken and just shout nonsense.


Originally by: Mr Mickey
If i told you to jump off the bridge, would you do it?


"do as I say or find another job... in Iceland... in the game industry... in this economy", You bet your ass I'd jump.


I am not great at this but bear with me, here...

He explicitly had the choice to sound like a muppet or not... wether he jumped or was pushed he could have had a much better landing through some forthought..

Understand my drift? its this arrogence that drives my nerd rage.

Acac Sunflyier
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:25:00 - [42]
 

Still think calling for Zulu's resignation is a little harsh when we should probably be calling for Hilmar's. Especially since he's responsible for the actions of his subordinates.

Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:25:00 - [43]
 

His arrogance comes from the fact that the message he has to convey is arrogant.

Gordon Hellbender
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:25:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: EL TITAN
+1?


Very much so.
His response to the general public is absolutely unacceptable.

Give a man a response like that in real life, and you get a punch to the face.
Why would he think it's ok to do here?

Kiwi Miner
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:26:00 - [45]
 

I guess we are just accepting there will be a post from ccpzulu and this is not just another misunderstanding


Elienore
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:28:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Originally by: EL TITAN
+1?


Very much so.
His response to the general public is absolutely unacceptable.

Give a man a response like that in real life, and you get a punch to the face.
Why would he think it's ok to do here?


I kinda liked the part where he told people to not target individuals :)

Savion Chastis
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:29:00 - [47]
 

I am inclined to believe that anyone who has anything to gain from this whole fiasco could give two ****s less what the players think.

Those vaporous customers with million dollar bank accounts are worth selling their core player base out


18 holes anyone?

Cage Shadownsun
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:30:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Mr Mickey
If i told you to jump off the bridge, would you do it?

This could mean, either, "no i will not post" or "yes i will post" but when posting dont do it with arrogance wich again is taking that leap off the bridge... if that makes sense?


If you were my boss and it meant keeping my job in this particular economy?

Yes. Very yes.

Modahn Etch
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:31:00 - [49]
 

My $1000 pair of jeans gets me laid.


Ghoest
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:32:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Ghoest on 26/06/2011 15:32:53
His blog was clearly an attempt to paraphrase Hilmars email in substance and then add some sugar on top to make it palatable.

He really failed in the second part but then thats to be expected hes a game producer not a PR man.

Anger should be directed at Hilmar.

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:32:00 - [51]
 


my sandwich tastes great. *nomnomnom*

calm down and lets see whats coming up.

then you can rage again, if appropriate. ^^

Mr Mickey
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:33:00 - [52]
 


I am not great at this but bear with me, here...

He explicitly had the choice to sound like a muppet or not... wether he jumped or was pushed he could have had a much better landing through some forthought..

Understand my drift? its this arrogence that drives my nerd rage.

Nikki West
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:34:00 - [53]
 


Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:34:00 - [54]
 

Sure, I'll put my dime in. It will NEVER happen, but I do think he should resign. It's the honorable thing to do. That's why I KNOW it will never happen.

But, sure, Zulu should resign, so should a lot of the uppers at CCP. I've thought Zulu was a waste of a dev ever since he brought us massive nerf after masive nerf years ago.

I mean, I'll put down a:

+1

since we're wishing on the moon and all.

Cheers mates!

Kali Doom
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:35:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: M14D
-6

I've said a dozen times that no new response by CCP is going to do anything. The rage will remain. Lo and behold, I'm absolutely right.

I'm going to flaunt this triumph of mine later on, where I'll provide examples and everything. You make my job so easy here.


You sound like the sort of person that would stand on the side lines pointing and laughing at people delivered to the gas chambers.

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:36:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Mr Mickey

I am not great at this but bear with me, here...

He explicitly had the choice to sound like a muppet or not... wether he jumped or was pushed he could have had a much better landing through some forthought..

Understand my drift? its this arrogence that drives my nerd rage.



I really doubt he is good at writing. I think he only had to options.

1-disobey his boss and loss his job.
2-obey his boss and demonstrate that he is an incompetent communicator.

Hilmar is at fault here.

Missus Malaprop
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:36:00 - [57]
 

I dont think its fair to single out any one person, however the beginning games downward slide definitely coincides with 2007.10.21 CCP Zulu[park] Carrier Nerf DevBlogSad

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:38:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Kali Doom


You sound like the sort of person that would stand on the side lines pointing and laughing at people delivered to the gas chambers.


Melodramatic much?
Maybe they forgot to tell you this is a game we pay $15 a month for.

Like most games and sports were going to yell get angry pout etc - and were going to laugh at people too.

But its not really the same as genocide.

Cheiftan
Minmatar
Shinryaku
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:39:00 - [59]
 

Sokratesz is somone i have come to respect over the years while part of the CSM, and so i will have to agree with sokratesz.

I love this game, yet i am dissapointed and upset with recent happenings within CCP, my hope is that they listen and start to understand their playerbase better, and listen to us more.

Even steps towards this will cheer me up.

We can only wait and see, so in responce -2 for my 2 acounts, no one needs to resign they just need to understand their comunity more.

Frederick Yassavi
Posted - 2011.06.26 15:40:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Kali Doom
Originally by: M14D
-6

I've said a dozen times that no new response by CCP is going to do anything. The rage will remain. Lo and behold, I'm absolutely right.

I'm going to flaunt this triumph of mine later on, where I'll provide examples and everything. You make my job so easy here.


You sound like the sort of person that would stand on the side lines pointing and laughing at people delivered to the gas chambers.


I see that Godwin is alive and well.


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