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Daemeon Fyral
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:45:00 - [1]

Okay, let me start out this is talking about why the prices make sense IN CHARACTER. It is not a discussion about if 60 dollars for a monicle is appropriate (although one could come from the other or vice versa).

My take on it is that the pricing is a combination of hefty markups, and catering to a segment of the market with more isk than sense. but I believe the MAIN reason for the hefty prices is the fact that you are not actually buying "A monicle" or "A Jacket" you are buying a contract to supply you with a lifetime supply of said items.

Think about it, currently the noble exchange items do not get destroyed when you are podded. But OBVIOUSLY they are. so the only explanation is that when you where podded you where provided with another one. Lets take the most controversial example, The Monicle, say they DID drop the price down to 100m ISK, still expensive yes but quite a few people have said they would be much happier to pay that. But lets say in exchange they made it destroyable. Is it not feasable that you could be podded 16 times? I know in my eve career I passed that milestone a while back.

And lets say they DID keep the free "death warranty" on it. At a cost of lets say 10m isk which gives them a 10x markup, you would think they have a pretty hefty profit margin. Well that is unless the idiot capsuleer gets himself blown up 10 times, then they start loosing money. but at 1.6m isk, the capsuleer would have to die 160 times before their profit margin would be used up in replacements. A much sounder buisness plan all in all.

So thats my .02 isk, and please try and remember that I am posting this more as a take on why the costs could make sense IN CHARACTER and staying in like with the FICTION of the game. Not as a comment on the real life pricing counterpart (Although the one does necissarily flow from the other since for a very long time now we have been able to put a price on isk through plex)


Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:46:00 - [2]

a lifetime supply that is tied to single clone? sounds stupid.

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:47:00 - [3]

Originally by: Daemeon Fyral
Not as a comment on the real life pricing counterpart

Zulu did that for you

-1 for this post.

Bad Messenger
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:49:00 - [4]

I've lost 7 pods on my EVE career, and usually my implants cost more than one monocle.

So current price is not problem even the monocle would be destroyed when podded.

Unfamed II
NPC Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.26 13:06:00 - [5]

Originally by: Bad Messenger
I've lost 7 pods on my EVE career, and usually my implants cost more than one monocle.

So current price is not problem even the monocle would be destroyed when podded.

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Posted - 2011.06.26 13:09:00 - [6]

Here's a question why would you need to have your vanity items on you everywhere you went? The point is to show them off right, to prove how awesome you are or how unique you are in style/choice etc. Well where do you do that, in stations with other people. A very limited method is your portrait, you can only see so much and it is unlikely people are going to study it to see what uber gear you have or that it is even uber from 'normal' poor people gear.

So it makes much more sense to have that crap in the few locations you like to do your pimp walk like Jita or any trade hub where you want to be seen. Add to that the fact that you need the stuff in your hangar to wear, you can spawn it if you die but you can't tap a medical station and have them give you another jacket if you clone jumped there can you?

So even with your crap always spawning *IF* you wear it you still need to lug around outfits OR buy more for every location you want options to wear when you get there. Seems pretty stupid to haul around clothes that cost so much isk YET can be spawned from the medical station only if you are wearing them.

Lets assume that when you clone jump your outfit goes with you. Great now you have to manage your outfits to make sure you don't buy something and can't bring it back w/o wearing it. This also introduces something we've never had before magicking items around the universe, should we continue with this possibility?

As for them being expensive as a part of their tech say nanobots make them and wearing them links the plans to your clone so it gets 'made' when you are podded. Okay it makes some sense they are insanely expensive but not that you'd have to haul them around to use them. This still is stupid, at that price you should be able to have your 'license' usable at any medical station or even any station so long as you only have it spawned at one place at one time, that makes more sense for insane costs. Thus there is no reason to ever haul these items in space, unless bringing them to a WH or some kind of trade in space/POS.

Alternatively you could have the items 'available', but not tied to a 'physical' hangar item at all, anywhere and once you sell/trade it you give up your 'license' to that item so it is no longer available to you anywhere. Much like an email account, you use it wherever there is a computer/station but if you give it away you no longer have access to it.

That is how I can see the possibilities for the insane cost. For cheap stuff it makes sense to have to have outfits at the places you want to wear them and they don't spawn when you get podded they are just regular clothing. Only your 'poor' person cloths get spawned as a part of the cloning process they allow you to store a set of clothing items for free from the poor person limited collection.

Alara IonStorm
Posted - 2011.06.26 13:13:00 - [7]

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 26/06/2011 13:13:27

I am deciding weither to buy a new Hoodie or a Second Aircraft Carrier.

They are the same price on E-Bay. The first one I had to stock with 20 SU-27's and a couple of Seahawks so I could not afford socks.

This is hard perhaps I will just buy a couple of Submarines instead...

Posted - 2011.06.26 15:15:00 - [8]

You do know there are items being sold in RL with a lifelong guarantee that do not cost the same as a new superyacht right?

Carli Zandrya
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.26 16:05:00 - [9]

I ran this by my character and she scoffed and reminded me, the mythical controller, that when your body explodes in space your mind is sent screaming across the galaxy to a new body already prepped for your arrival. For reasons she can't explain that new body has all the same clothes and cranial steel plates and even tattoos that her destroyed body had, at NO EXTRA CHARGE. Somehow the implants aren't as lucky.. So a 'contract for a lifetime supply' is already in place for current vanity items that she paid NOTHING for. So why should she buy a vain eyepiece that's worth more than her Charon, AND bucks the trend by being permanently destroyed on her next death?

Hell her leather jacket was free and is MUCH nicer looking anyway. She has a lifetime supply of that one already.

Now what she could REALLY use is a nice warm welcome mat and a robe in front of her pod landing. That metal grating is cold and slippery. Oh and a bed that she can actually take a nap on.


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